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by: occam - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:51 UTC

Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a while I
thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.

Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
When will they learn?

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by: John K.Eason - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:18 UTC

In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix (occam) wrote:

> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix>
> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:10 +0200
>
> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a
> while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.

That was the normal monthly update.

> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
> When will they learn?

Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's happened to lots
of people.

--
Regards
John

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by: Patrick - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:32 UTC

On 11/06/2021 10:51, occam wrote:
> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a while I
> thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>
> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
> When will they learn?
>
To get control of it, right-click Taskbar, click 'News and interests',
select your choice.

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by: Paul - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:40 UTC

occam wrote:
> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a while I
> thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>
> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
> When will they learn?

The control for it was placed in the TaskBar menu,
so that the user could turn it off and turn it on again.
If the control had been placed in a right-click menu
on the icon itself, there'd be no way to turn it on
again.

There are two states:

1) On/Off control via TaskBar menu. This controls
the visibility.

2) GPEDIT policy to remove it completely. When
removed, it will no longer be a menu item in
the TaskBar menu.

The item is a privacy violation.

It uses a locator which accurately locates you.

There is no privacy control for it in the Apps section
(I could not find an entry for it).

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/group-configuration-news-and-interests-on-the-windows-taskbar/ba-p/2281005

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Feeds]
"ShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode"=dword:00000002

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/178178-how-enable-disable-news-interests-taskbar-windows-10-a.html

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Feeds

EnableFeeds DWORD 0 = Disable
1 = Enable

Since the second one looks closer to (2)-like behavior, it
might be the one to use. It's possible the ShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode
represents Icons+Text, Text Only, or Disable.

Paul

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by: occam - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:45 UTC

On 11/06/2021 16:40, Paul wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
>> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a while I
>> thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>>
>> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
>> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
>> When will they learn?
>
> The control for it was placed in the TaskBar menu,
> so that the user could turn it off and turn it on again.
> If the control had been placed in a right-click menu
> on the icon itself, there'd be no way to turn it on
> again.
>
> There are two states:
>
> 1) On/Off control via TaskBar menu. This controls
>    the visibility.
>
> 2) GPEDIT policy to remove it completely. When
>    removed, it will no longer be a menu item in
>    the TaskBar menu.
>
> The item is a privacy violation.
>
> It uses a locator which accurately locates you.
>
> There is no privacy control for it in the Apps section
> (I could not find an entry for it).
>
> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/group-configuration-news-and-interests-on-the-windows-taskbar/ba-p/2281005
>
>
>    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Feeds]
>       "ShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode"=dword:00000002
>
> https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/178178-how-enable-disable-news-interests-taskbar-windows-10-a.html
>
>
>    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Feeds
>
>       EnableFeeds DWORD 0 = Disable
>                          1 = Enable
>
> Since the second one looks closer to (2)-like behavior, it
> might be the one to use. It's possible the ShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode
> represents Icons+Text, Text Only, or Disable.
>

Thank you Paul. The tenforums solution worked a treat. I appreciate your
help.

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by: MajorLanGod - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:20 UTC

john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) wrote in
news:memo.20210611121804.10600C@jeason.cix.co.uk:

> In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix
> (occam) wrote:
>
>> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix>
>> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:10 +0200
>>
>> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
>> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a
>> while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>
> That was the normal monthly update.
>
>> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
>> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
>> When will they learn?
>
> Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's
> happened to lots of people.
>

I got the 21H1 Upgrade a few days ago. I think the 21H2 update took
longer to install, the upgrade was very fast.

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by: Andy Burns - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 19:08 UTC

MajorLanGod wrote:

> I got the 21H1 Upgrade a few days ago. I think the 21H2 update took
> longer to install

No such thing as 21H2 yet ...

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by: Paul - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 19:19 UTC

MajorLanGod wrote:
> john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) wrote in
> news:memo.20210611121804.10600C@jeason.cix.co.uk:
>
>> In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix
>> (occam) wrote:
>>
>>> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix>
>>> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:10 +0200
>>>
>>> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home (kernel
>>> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a
>>> while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>> That was the normal monthly update.
>>
>>> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on my
>>> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from Seattle.
>>> When will they learn?
>> Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's
>> happened to lots of people.
>>
>
> I got the 21H1 Upgrade a few days ago. I think the 21H2 update took
> longer to install, the upgrade was very fast.

Are you referring to the Patch Tuesday security patch that
just came in, as 21H2 ?

21H2 should be later this year, like maybe October.

The arrival of 21H1, at least in the past, that would
reset the patchlist. The patchlist may give you some
idea of the timing.

winver.exe

systeminfo.exe

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnZ7LjBd/hotfix.gif

Paul

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by: MajorLanGod - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:23 UTC

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> HTML is required to read the second part of this post.
>
>

So I finger-checked and typed 21H2 instead of 20H2. Most people would
realize what I intended to say, rather than fire off a snarky response.

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by: John K.Eason - Fri, 11 Jun 2021 23:25 UTC

In article <XnsAD4687CBB5AB6lonelydad58.gmail.co@85.12.62.251>,
lonelydad58@gmail.com (MajorLanGod) wrote:

> *From:* MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com>
> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:20:59 GMT
>
> john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) wrote in
> news:memo.20210611121804.10600C@jeason.cix.co.uk:
>
> > In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix
> > (occam) wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix>
> >> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:10 +0200
> >>
> >> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home
> (kernel
> >> 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took ages. For a
> >> while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
> >
> > That was the normal monthly update.
> >
> >> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on
> my
> >> taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from
> Seattle.
> >> When will they learn?
> >
> > Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's
> > happened to lots of people.
> >
>
> I got the 21H1 Upgrade a few days ago. I think the 21H2 update took
> longer to install, the upgrade was very fast.
>
21H1 (Feature update) is still sitting there (and has been for several weeks) as
an optional update ready to be installed for me but I would have to click 'Download
and install' to actually get it.

--
Regards
John

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by: mechanic - Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:05 UTC

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:18 +0100 (BST), John K.Eason wrote:

> In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix
> (occam) wrote:
>
>> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021
>> 11:51:10 +0200
>>
>> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home
>> (kernel 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took
>> ages. For a while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>
> That was the normal monthly update.
>
>> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on
>> my taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from
>> Seattle. When will they learn?
>
> Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's
> happened to lots of people.

It's a pretty cool feature - maybe a counter to all the complaining
that recent Win10 updates weren't adding anything new.

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by: Paul - Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:10 UTC

mechanic wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:18 +0100 (BST), John K.Eason wrote:
>
>> In article <iigq0eF6j2rU1@mid.individual.net>, nobody@nowhere.nix
>> (occam) wrote:
>>
>>> *From:* occam <nobody@nowhere.nix> *Date:* Fri, 11 Jun 2021
>>> 11:51:10 +0200
>>>
>>> Yesterday I had a major (automatic) update on my Win 10 Home
>>> (kernel 10.0.19042.1052). It shows up as BK5003637. It took
>>> ages. For a while I thought the OS was being updated to 21H1.
>> That was the normal monthly update.
>>
>>> Nope. 20H2 still. However some ugly (uninvited) apps appeared on
>>> my taskbar. E.g. a MS summary weather/news/shit, straight from
>>> Seattle. When will they learn?
>> Right-click the taskbar and turn off News and Interests. - It's
>> happened to lots of people.
>
> It's a pretty cool feature - maybe a counter to all the complaining
> that recent Win10 updates weren't adding anything new.

Nobody has ever put news on a computer before.

Paul

Subject	Author
Major update - but still not 21H1	occam
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	John K.Eason
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	MajorLanGod
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	Andy Burns
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	Paul
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	MajorLanGod
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	John K.Eason
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	mechanic
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	Paul
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	Patrick
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	Paul
Re: Major update - but still not 21H1	occam