Hi,

Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy and effect your
hardware.

In my last reply here I explained how I am recovering from some bad PC
symptoms. Enlightenment came when I saw an image of storage file for a PC
SSD on my Android smartphone. I had been trying to access that drive on my
PC with no luck. The offending software that caused this stupid miracle was
DropBox. So I set about removing DropBox everywhere. Microsoft's OneDrive
was a competitor in that marketplace. I had bought a large amount of SSD
storage; I didn't want any web storage other than Google Drive. So I set
about removing OneDrive everywhere. Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller is
new. It looks like Microsoft considers its decision superior to a human's.
If Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller can find storage online, it prefers
to give you that storage rather than your device storage you're trying to
connect to.

Not only does this conflict with a hardware driver software, it puts your
secret business online. This is bad since lately I've been doing research
into Brazilian contract killings.

X

Norm Why wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy and effect your
> hardware.
>
> In my last reply here I explained how I am recovering from some bad PC
> symptoms. Enlightenment came when I saw an image of storage file for a PC
> SSD on my Android smartphone. I had been trying to access that drive on my
> PC with no luck. The offending software that caused this stupid miracle was
> DropBox. So I set about removing DropBox everywhere. Microsoft's OneDrive
> was a competitor in that marketplace. I had bought a large amount of SSD
> storage; I didn't want any web storage other than Google Drive. So I set
> about removing OneDrive everywhere. Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller is
> new. It looks like Microsoft considers its decision superior to a human's.
> If Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller can find storage online, it prefers
> to give you that storage rather than your device storage you're trying to
> connect to.
>
> Not only does this conflict with a hardware driver software, it puts your
> secret business online. This is bad since lately I've been doing research
> into Brazilian contract killings.
>
> X

Storage spaces appears to be a way of building a pool
similar to a RAID.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/storage-spaces-in-windows-10-b6c8b540-b8d8-fb8a-e7ab-4a75ba11f9f2

Is the drive on your PC still non-functional ?

What does Disk Management show (right-click start, in the menu there) ?
Is there a row in Disk Management corresponding to the drive ?

If you open Device Manager, does the SSD have an item there in
the drive section ?

https://i.postimg.cc/xCcsVRJB/disk-drive.gif

Paul

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> Norm Why wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy and effect your
>> hardware.
>>
>> In my last reply here I explained how I am recovering from some bad PC
>> symptoms. Enlightenment came when I saw an image of storage file for a PC
>> SSD on my Android smartphone. I had been trying to access that drive on my
>> PC with no luck. The offending software that caused this stupid miracle was
>> DropBox. So I set about removing DropBox everywhere. Microsoft's OneDrive
>> was a competitor in that marketplace. I had bought a large amount of SSD
>> storage; I didn't want any web storage other than Google Drive. So I set
>> about removing OneDrive everywhere. Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller is
>> new. It looks like Microsoft considers its decision superior to a human's.
>> If Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller can find storage online, it prefers
>> to give you that storage rather than your device storage you're trying to
>> connect to.
>>
>> Not only does this conflict with a hardware driver software, it puts your
>> secret business online. This is bad since lately I've been doing research
>> into Brazilian contract killings.
>>
>> X
>
> Storage spaces appears to be a way of building a pool
> similar to a RAID.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/storage-spaces-in-windows-10-b6c8b540-b8d8-fb8a-e7ab-4a75ba11f9f2
>
> Is the drive on your PC still non-functional ?
>
> What does Disk Management show (right-click start, in the menu there) ?
> Is there a row in Disk Management corresponding to the drive ?
>
> If you open Device Manager, does the SSD have an item there in
> the drive section ?
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/xCcsVRJB/disk-drive.gif
>
> Paul

Yeah, he's lying or spreading FUD. Not a clue what is Storage Spaces.
Doesn't bother to research. His posting history has qualified him a
troll.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/storage-spaces-in-windows-10-b6c8b540-b8d8-fb8a-e7ab-4a75ba11f9f2

Norm Why wrote:

> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy

AFAIK it operates at the block/device layer, not the file system layer,
I'd be surprised if it's responsible for copying your files to "the
cloud", what makes you think that it is?

>> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy and effect
>> your hardware.
>>
>> In my last reply here I explained how I am recovering from some bad PC
>> symptoms. Enlightenment came when I saw an image of storage file for a PC
>> SSD on my Android smartphone. I had been trying to access that drive on
>> my PC with no luck. The offending software that caused this stupid
>> miracle was DropBox. So I set about removing DropBox everywhere.
>> Microsoft's OneDrive was a competitor in that marketplace. I had bought a
>> large amount of SSD storage; I didn't want any web storage other than
>> Google Drive. So I set about removing OneDrive everywhere. Microsoft
>> Storage Spaces Controller is new. It looks like Microsoft considers its
>> decision superior to a human's. If Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller
>> can find storage online, it prefers to give you that storage rather than
>> your device storage you're trying to connect to.
>>
>> Not only does this conflict with a hardware driver software, it puts your
>> secret business online. This is bad since lately I've been doing research
>> into Brazilian contract killings.
>>
>> X
>
> Storage spaces appears to be a way of building a pool
> similar to a RAID.
>
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/storage-spaces-in-windows-10-b6c8b540-b8d8-fb8a-e7ab-4a75ba11f9f2
>
> Is the drive on your PC still non-functional ?
>
> What does Disk Management show (right-click start, in the menu there) ?
> Is there a row in Disk Management corresponding to the drive ?
>
> If you open Device Manager, does the SSD have an item there in
> the drive section ?
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/xCcsVRJB/disk-drive.gif
>
> Paul
>

Yes,

My SEDNA - PCI Express mSATA III (6G) SSD Adapter with 1 SATA III Port
device has been working reliably for 4 days. The other part of the good news
I'm reporting is that Sedna is unreliable unless an mSATA III SSD is used
also in addition to a SATA SSD. Sedna was unreliable with just a SATA SSD
attached by cable. I struggled with that problem for months, until Dropbox
(upgrade) showed virus like qualities. An image of SATA SSD D: showed up on
my Android phone.

This may be an arcane problem for newbies with new hardware.

The public service part of this announcement is that Dropbox and MS OneDrive
may expose your online files to scrutiny.

Microsoft Storage Spaces Control can not be turned off in Win10 (its new)
and there are no settings for it.

> Yeah, he's lying or spreading FUD. Not a clue what is Storage Spaces.
> Doesn't bother to research. His posting history has qualified him a
> troll.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/storage-spaces-in-windows-10-b6c8b540-b8d8-fb8a-e7ab-4a75ba11f9f2

Thanks for the vote of confidence.(; I apologize, I do not have time to
investigate your posting history. Investigating posting history? Is that
something you do instead of masturbating?

You must be a newbie. I've been here for decades. 50 years ago, my first job
after my B.Sc. was working for the RCMP. The information technology of the
day was punch cards.

In 50 years, I guess I've learned more that you, newbie.

>> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy
>
> AFAIK it operates at the block/device layer, not the file system layer,
> I'd be surprised if it's responsible for copying your files to "the
> cloud", what makes you think that it is?

No. As I said, it is apps like Dropbox and OneDrive that expose files on the
Web. Goggle Drive does this visibly, under your control on the Web

Agreed, Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller works at the block/device layer.
It can work as a controller for file systems on the Web.

There is no was to uninstall Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller. Sometimes
it may encourage a hardware controller to be uninstalled.

Using an mSATA SSD in addition to a SATA SSD solves the lack of reliability
for my Sedna. Before, with just a SATA SSD, the drive would crash and not
come up again with reboot. Forensic analysis showed the file system was
trashed.

Question: Can Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller trash a physical drive? In
science we use working assumptions. If a piece of software appears be
operating in a destructive, deceitful
manner, I assume the person responsible is destructive, deceitful. Enter,
stage left, Microsoft.

Norm Why wrote:

> Microsoft Storage Spaces Control can not be turned off in Win10 (its new)
> and there are no settings for it.

Did you check Device Manager ?

See if there's an item by that name.

Then, select "Disable" to disable the service.

Paul

Norm Why wrote:
>>> Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller might be bad for privacy
>> AFAIK it operates at the block/device layer, not the file system layer,
>> I'd be surprised if it's responsible for copying your files to "the
>> cloud", what makes you think that it is?
>
> No. As I said, it is apps like Dropbox and OneDrive that expose files on the
> Web. Goggle Drive does this visibly, under your control on the Web
>
> Agreed, Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller works at the block/device layer.
> It can work as a controller for file systems on the Web.
>
> There is no was to uninstall Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller. Sometimes
> it may encourage a hardware controller to be uninstalled.
>
> Using an mSATA SSD in addition to a SATA SSD solves the lack of reliability
> for my Sedna. Before, with just a SATA SSD, the drive would crash and not
> come up again with reboot. Forensic analysis showed the file system was
> trashed.
>
> Question: Can Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller trash a physical drive? In
> science we use working assumptions. If a piece of software appears be
> operating in a destructive, deceitful
> manner, I assume the person responsible is destructive, deceitful. Enter,
> stage left, Microsoft.

I presume the Sedna is a bog-standard SATA controller,
like a Marvell or similar. It might even be an Asmedia
product for that matter.

If you include model numbers, it allows the audience here
to review the salient characteristics.

There have been SATA controllers that implemented caching
or accelerating features, and side effects of this might
be that in HDTune, the Health tab is blank. That helps
tell you the controller isn't an ordinary one.

I wouldn't mention this, except on the machine I'm installing
Windows on at the moment, the Health tab is blank, and the
machine defaults to "RAID ON" in the BIOS. And it's the RAID
mode that prevents SMART passthru.

Paul

Norm Why wrote:
>
> There is no was to uninstall Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller. Sometimes
> it may encourage a hardware controller to be uninstalled.
>
> Using an mSATA SSD in addition to a SATA SSD solves the lack of reliability
> for my Sedna. Before, with just a SATA SSD, the drive would crash and not
> come up again with reboot. Forensic analysis showed the file system was
> trashed.
>
> Question: Can Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller trash a physical drive? In
> science we use working assumptions. If a piece of software appears be
> operating in a destructive, deceitful
> manner, I assume the person responsible is destructive, deceitful. Enter,
> stage left, Microsoft.
>
>

Storage Spaces(SS) is part of Windows 10.
Thus no way to uninstall.

....but, the default is 'Off'
- It can only be turned on/implemented when an end user combines 2 or more
drives into a single logical pool.
- the minimum 2 or more drives can not be the o/s drive or unless
wiped(another existing internal drive with existing data - if chosen W10's
SS will inform that selecting will wipe the drive)

If trashing a drive means and end user selecting an existing drive,
ignoring the caution, then yes SS can 'trash' the drive.

Only the end user admin can add or remove drives from the pool and delete
and existing Storage Space.

Which makes it even more odd that you mentioned this earlier, which would
appear to be the cause of confusion on other replies.
"If Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller can find storage online, it
prefers to give you that storage rather than your device storage you're
trying to connect to."

It doesn't appear based on your existing info that you've turned on and
implemented SS.

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