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* Copying a large fileDoug Laidlaw
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Subject: Copying a large file
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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 10:42 UTC

I am trying to copy a file of about 3.5 GB from my Downloads directory
to a mini (phone-type) SD with plenty of room. It always fails, with
no error message.

The "ulimit -S" command shows "unlimited." I seem to recall something
about a maximum size of 2 GB.

Any suggestions, please, or further info required?

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 by: Bit Twister - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 10:46 UTC

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:42:06 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> I am trying to copy a file of about 3.5 GB from my Downloads directory
> to a mini (phone-type) SD with plenty of room. It always fails, with
> no error message.
>
> The "ulimit -S" command shows "unlimited." I seem to recall something
> about a maximum size of 2 GB.

Sounds like a dose file size limit.

> Any suggestions, please, or further info required?

file system of target media.

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From: unr...@invalid.ca (William Unruh)
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Subject: Re: Copying a large file
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 by: William Unruh - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:22 UTC

On 2022-04-24, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> I am trying to copy a file of about 3.5 GB from my Downloads directory
> to a mini (phone-type) SD with plenty of room. It always fails, with
> no error message.
>
> The "ulimit -S" command shows "unlimited." I seem to recall something
> about a maximum size of 2 GB.
>
> Any suggestions, please, or further info required?

What is the filesystem on the SD? From Wikipedia

File system Maximum size[a]
APFS 8 EB
exFAT 16 EB
FAT12 16 MB (4 KB clusters) or 32 MB (8 KB clusters)
FAT16B 2 GB (without LFS) or 4 GB (with LFS)
FAT32 4 GB
HFS 2 GB
HFS+ 8 EB
HPFS 2 GB
NTFS 16 EB

It sounds like you have either Fat16 or HPFS
EB-Exabyte= 1000000000 GB
Ie, a hell of a lot larger than any SD. You could use FAT32 or exFAT
instead if you really want compatibility with Windows.

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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:30 UTC

On 24/4/22 20:46, Bit Twister wrote:
>> Any suggestions, please, or further info required?
>
> file system of target media.
I have formatted the target to be NTFS, because it is a Windows system
for the Raspberry Pi. According to Bill's list, any FS would allow it.

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:44 UTC

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:30:55 -0400, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

> On 24/4/22 20:46, Bit Twister wrote:
>>> Any suggestions, please, or further info required?
>>
>> file system of target media.
> I have formatted the target to be NTFS, because it is a Windows system
> for the Raspberry Pi. According to Bill's list, any FS would allow it.

I have a rpi 4b running Mageia 8. On it ...
$ blkid /dev/mmcblk0*
/dev/mmcblk0p1: LABEL_FATBOOT="M8RPI4EFI" LABEL="M8RPI4EFI" UUID="96AA-E132" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="261ea400-01"
/dev/mmcblk0p2: LABEL="M8RPI4" UUID="418d18ba-0eff-474e-bd3e-ca561407ccfd" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="261ea400-02"
/dev/mmcblk0p5: LABEL="RPI4SWAP" UUID="bb3bc321-ca27-4185-b521-a44929413a9e" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="261ea400-05"

I also have an sd card with Raspbian os (which is based on debian linux). With it
plugged into my desktop system ...
# blkid /dev/sdf*
/dev/sdf: PTUUID="000b624d" PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdf1: LABEL_FATBOOT="RECOVERY" LABEL="RECOVERY" UUID="9AE3-8BA0" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="000b624d-01"
/dev/sdf2: PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="000b624d-02"
/dev/sdf5: LABEL="SETTINGS" UUID="a1d317dd-077b-41c7-8600-d2651b6dfbf0" BLOCK_SIZE="1024" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="000b624d-05"
/dev/sdf6: LABEL_FATBOOT="boot" LABEL="boot" UUID="055E-C48A" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="000b624d-06"
/dev/sdf7: LABEL="root" UUID="9d78249b-5843-4195-b79d-b18425e54055" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="000b624d-07"

So no windows system involved.

What model of Raspberry Pi are you using? Where did you get a windows image
file for it?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: laidl...@hotkey.net.au (Doug Laidlaw)
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Subject: Re: Copying a large file
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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 04:04 UTC

On 26/4/22 08:44, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:30:55 -0400, Doug Laidlaw
> <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>> On 24/4/22 20:46, Bit Twister wrote:
>>>> Any suggestions, please, or further info required?
>>>
>>> file system of target media.
>>   I have formatted the target to be NTFS, because it is a Windows system
>> for the Raspberry Pi.  According to Bill's list, any FS would allow it.
>
> I have a rpi 4b running Mageia 8. On it ...
> $ blkid /dev/mmcblk0*
> /dev/mmcblk0p1: LABEL_FATBOOT="M8RPI4EFI" LABEL="M8RPI4EFI"
> UUID="96AA-E132" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="261ea400-01"
> /dev/mmcblk0p2: LABEL="M8RPI4"
> UUID="418d18ba-0eff-474e-bd3e-ca561407ccfd" BLOCK_SIZE="4096"
> TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="261ea400-02"
> /dev/mmcblk0p5: LABEL="RPI4SWAP"
> UUID="bb3bc321-ca27-4185-b521-a44929413a9e" TYPE="swap"
> PARTUUID="261ea400-05"
>
> I also have an sd card with Raspbian os (which is based on debian
> linux). With it
> plugged into my desktop system ...
> # blkid /dev/sdf*
> /dev/sdf: PTUUID="000b624d" PTTYPE="dos"
> /dev/sdf1: LABEL_FATBOOT="RECOVERY" LABEL="RECOVERY" UUID="9AE3-8BA0"
> BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="000b624d-01"
> /dev/sdf2: PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="000b624d-02"
> /dev/sdf5: LABEL="SETTINGS" UUID="a1d317dd-077b-41c7-8600-d2651b6dfbf0"
> BLOCK_SIZE="1024" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="000b624d-05"
> /dev/sdf6: LABEL_FATBOOT="boot" LABEL="boot" UUID="055E-C48A"
> BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="000b624d-06"
> /dev/sdf7: LABEL="root" UUID="9d78249b-5843-4195-b79d-b18425e54055"
> BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="000b624d-07"
>
> So no windows system involved.
>
> What model of Raspberry Pi are you using? Where did you get a windows image
> file for it?
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thanks, Dave. I have a Pi400,and the initial setup is virtually
identical to yours. On separate SSDs, I have Manjaro and Ubuntu, which
function tolerably well.

The question of Windows is apparently "iffy." Originally, it was said
to be impossible, but now, it seems, Win11 is usable, but not Win10.
That struck me as odd, especially since the CLI method below seems to
install Win 10 then upgrade it to Win 11. At https://www.worproject.ml,
there is a link to a script for Ubuntu, and I have Mint, but the script
seems to be out-of-date. After a couple of failures, I opted for a
command-line approach, using "How to Install from other OSes" from the
above site. It worked well until now, and I should possibly seek help
there, but this error sounds more basic. In switching directories, the
command "getcwd" often fails to find the parent directory or even the
current directory. That may be behind the original error message I
quoted. I have reached the limit of my knowledge.

Regards,

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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 04:08 UTC

On 27/4/22 14:04, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> On separate SSDs, I have Manjaro and Ubuntu, which function tolerably well.

P.S.: Both of these are specially developed for ARM.

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 13:44 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:04:54 -0400, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> there, but this error sounds more basic. In switching directories, the
> command "getcwd" often fails to find the parent directory or even the
> current directory. That may be behind the original error message I
> quoted. I have reached the limit of my knowledge.

That sounds like a problem with the sd card. First try re-seating the sd card.
Try using another card. If that doesn't help, try cleaning the contacts on the
card and reader.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: TJ - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:14 UTC

On 4/27/22 00:04, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

>
> The question of Windows is apparently "iffy."  Originally, it was said
> to be impossible, but now, it seems, Win11 is usable, but not Win10.
> That struck me as odd, especially since the CLI method below seems to
> install Win 10 then upgrade it to Win 11.  At https://www.worproject.ml,
> there is a link to a script for Ubuntu, and I have Mint, but the script
> seems to be out-of-date.  After a couple of failures, I opted for a
> command-line approach, using "How to Install from other OSes" from the
> above site.  It worked well until now, and I should possibly seek help
> there, but this error sounds more basic.  In switching directories, the
> command "getcwd" often fails to find the parent directory or even the
> current directory.  That may be behind the original error message I
> quoted.  I have reached the limit of my knowledge.
>
> Regards,

I would consider an inability to run Windows to be a valuable "feature."

TJ

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Subject: Re: Copying a large file
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 by: Bobbie Sellers - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:44 UTC

On 4/27/22 07:14, TJ wrote:
> On 4/27/22 00:04, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>
>>
>> The question of Windows is apparently "iffy."  Originally, it was said
>> to be impossible, but now, it seems, Win11 is usable, but not Win10.
>> That struck me as odd, especially since the CLI method below seems to
>> install Win 10 then upgrade it to Win 11.  At
>> https://www.worproject.ml, there is a link to a script for Ubuntu, and
>> I have Mint, but the script seems to be out-of-date.  After a couple
>> of failures, I opted for a command-line approach, using "How to
>> Install from other OSes" from the above site.  It worked well until
>> now, and I should possibly seek help there, but this error sounds more
>> basic.  In switching directories, the command "getcwd" often fails to
>> find the parent directory or even the current directory.  That may be
>> behind the original error message I quoted.  I have reached the limit
>> of my knowledge.
>>
>> Regards,
>
> I would consider an inability to run Windows to be a valuable "feature."
>
> TJ
>

Even if you must use Windows surely running it on a Virtual Machine
with limited connectivity to the Internet is preferable to an
installation to your fixed disk...

bliss - on PCLOS - The Perfect Computer Linux Operating System

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Re: Copying a large file

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Subject: Re: Copying a large file
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 by: David W. Hodgins - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:38 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:44:50 -0400, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> Even if you must use Windows surely running it on a Virtual Machine
> with limited connectivity to the Internet is preferable to an
> installation to your fixed disk...

A raspberry pi boots, and normally runs from an sd card. It doesn't have enough
ram, speed, etc. to support VirtualBox. Mageia doesn't even build it for the
aarch64 architecture.

As each os is installed on separate sd cards, there's no additional risk other
then what's normal when using any m$ software. One os cannot access an other os's
files, since there is only one sd card reader (unless you also add a usb connected
sd card reader).

I have an rpi 4b with 4GB ram, using 32 GB sd cards. I was expecting it to run
very slowly compared to my desktop system. For large file operations, it is slower,
but normal application usage is reasonably close to the same speed.

I used the raspberry os to confirm it works, and now use Mageia 8 on it.
On that system, running Mageia 8 with kde plasma, primarily for running konversation
and firefox ...
[root@rp4 ~]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3831 1639 717 59 1473 1944
Swap: 6696 0 6696

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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