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Insular Island Shelter - Anyone know how to delete or sandbox T-Mobile Diagnostics <com.tmobile.echolocate> for location privacy?

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Subject: Insular Island Shelter - Anyone know how to delete or sandbox T-Mobile Diagnostics <com.tmobile.echolocate> for location privacy?
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 by: Wally J - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 07:34 UTC

Anyone know how to delete or sandbox T-Mobile Diagnostics?
<com.tmobile.echolocate>

This is the first time that adb uninstall has ever failed me!
<https://i.postimg.cc/nLtSCqbb/adb-uninstall.jpg> adb uninstall

This implies that "T-Mobile Diagnostics" sends private information
such as "Location" to T-Mobile for reasons that are unknown to me.
<https://ibb.co/mRqYGpr>

A similar warning shows up when I run this adb command.
T-Mobile Diagnostics <com.tmobile.echolocate> OOBE Activity
C:\> cmd activity start --user 0 -a android.intent.action.VIEW -n com.tmobile.echolocate/com.tmobile.echolocate.ui.OOBEActivity -f 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
Which has two switches explained by this activity:
Device Diagnostics
As part of our commitment to delivering the
best network quality and device experience
possible, this device is equipped with diagnostic
software in the T-Mobile and T-Mobile
Diagnostics applications, to send performance
and diagnostics information, including location,
app/network usage data to T-Mobile for
troubleshooting, stats and network optimization
purposes. T-Mobile does not have visibility into
what actions users take within third-party apps.
Help improve your experience by sharing
device performance, app and network usage data
Yes/No

Help improve your local network experience
by including your device's location.
Yes/No
There are three Trackers in T-Mobile Diagnostics:
com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementReceiver
com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementService
com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementJobService

This is the first time that adb uninstall has ever failed on me!

C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr tmobile
Result:
package:com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
package:com.tmobile.echolocate
package:com.tmobile.pr.adapt

C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
Result:
Success

C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
Result:
Failed to uninstall a package: com.tmobile.echolocate

C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.pr.adapt
Result:
Success

C:> adb shell pm list packages | findstr tmobile
Result:
package:com.tmobile.echolocate

C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
Result:
Failed to uninstall a package: com.tmobile.echolocate

Hmmmm... that has never happened to me before with adb uninstall.

Googling, this suggested an app called "insular" can sandbox it.
*What is "T-Mobile Diagnostics" and why can't it be Uninstalled?*
<https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/mz1zf7/what_is_tmobile_diagnostics_and_why_cant_it_be/?rdt=57402>

Search shows people "sandbox" similar apps using (mostly) Insular.
<https://xdaforums.com/t/app-5-0-beta-island-app-freezing-privacy-protection-parallel-accounts.3366295/>

Do you have experience isolating apps using Insular on Android?
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.oasisfeng.island.fdroid/>

However, it will take a while to figure out how to use Insular
(or if Insular is, indeed, the right approach for this package).
<https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/setup.html>
<https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/>
"Insular is a sandbox environment to clone selected apps
and isolate them from accessing your personal data outside
the sandbox (including call logs, contacts, photos and etc)
even if related permissions are granted.
Device-bound data (SMS, IMEI and etc) is still accessible.
The isolated app can be frozen on demand, with its launcher
icon deleted and its background behaviors completely blocked."

Apparently there are three similar apps for such isolation tasks:
1. Island
2. Shelter
3. Insular (which is a FLOSS fork of Island)
<https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/kt27zn/android_island_vs_shelter_vs_insular/>
<https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/faq.html>
<https://forum.f-droid.org/t/insular-sandbox/19580>

Given that information above, and the desire to wipe out this
location-privacy hole, anyone have suggestions for isolating
(or uninstalling) this particular app that adb won't uninstall?
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Re: Insular Island Shelter - Anyone know how to delete or sandbox T-Mobile Diagnostics <com.tmobile.echolocate> for location privacy?

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Wally J wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2023 03:34:06 -0400 :

> Anyone know how to delete or sandbox T-Mobile Diagnostics?
> <com.tmobile.echolocate>
>
> This is the first time that adb uninstall has ever failed me!
> <https://i.postimg.cc/nLtSCqbb/adb-uninstall.jpg> adb uninstall
>
> This implies that "T-Mobile Diagnostics" sends private information
> such as "Location" to T-Mobile for reasons that are unknown to me.
> <https://ibb.co/mRqYGpr>
>
> A similar warning shows up when I run this adb command.
> T-Mobile Diagnostics <com.tmobile.echolocate> OOBE Activity
> C:\> cmd activity start --user 0 -a android.intent.action.VIEW -n com.tmobile.echolocate/com.tmobile.echolocate.ui.OOBEActivity -f 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
> Which has two switches explained by this activity:
> Device Diagnostics
> As part of our commitment to delivering the
> best network quality and device experience
> possible, this device is equipped with diagnostic
> software in the T-Mobile and T-Mobile
> Diagnostics applications, to send performance
> and diagnostics information, including location,
> app/network usage data to T-Mobile for
> troubleshooting, stats and network optimization
> purposes. T-Mobile does not have visibility into
> what actions users take within third-party apps.
> Help improve your experience by sharing
> device performance, app and network usage data
> Yes/No
>
> Help improve your local network experience
> by including your device's location.
> Yes/No
>
> There are three Trackers in T-Mobile Diagnostics:
> com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementReceiver
> com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementService
> com.google.android.gms.measurement.AppMeasurementJobService
>
> This is the first time that adb uninstall has ever failed on me!
>
> C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr tmobile
> Result:
> package:com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
> package:com.tmobile.echolocate
> package:com.tmobile.pr.adapt
>
> C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
> Result:
> Success
>
> C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
> Result:
> Failed to uninstall a package: com.tmobile.echolocate
>
> C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.pr.adapt
> Result:
> Success
>
> C:> adb shell pm list packages | findstr tmobile
> Result:
> package:com.tmobile.echolocate
>
> C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.tmobile.echolocate
> Result:
> Failed to uninstall a package: com.tmobile.echolocate
>
> Hmmmm... that has never happened to me before with adb uninstall.
>
> Googling, this suggested an app called "insular" can sandbox it.
> *What is "T-Mobile Diagnostics" and why can't it be Uninstalled?*
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/mz1zf7/what_is_tmobile_diagnostics_and_why_cant_it_be/?rdt=57402>
>
> Search shows people "sandbox" similar apps using (mostly) Insular.
> <https://xdaforums.com/t/app-5-0-beta-island-app-freezing-privacy-protection-parallel-accounts.3366295/>
>
> Do you have experience isolating apps using Insular on Android?
> <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.oasisfeng.island.fdroid/>
>
> However, it will take a while to figure out how to use Insular
> (or if Insular is, indeed, the right approach for this package).
> <https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/setup.html>
> <https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/>
> "Insular is a sandbox environment to clone selected apps
> and isolate them from accessing your personal data outside
> the sandbox (including call logs, contacts, photos and etc)
> even if related permissions are granted.
> Device-bound data (SMS, IMEI and etc) is still accessible.
> The isolated app can be frozen on demand, with its launcher
> icon deleted and its background behaviors completely blocked."
>
> Apparently there are three similar apps for such isolation tasks:
> 1. Island
> 2. Shelter
> 3. Insular (which is a FLOSS fork of Island)
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/kt27zn/android_island_vs_shelter_vs_insular/>
> <https://secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/faq.html>
> <https://forum.f-droid.org/t/insular-sandbox/19580>
>
> Given that information above, and the desire to wipe out this
> location-privacy hole, anyone have suggestions for isolating
> (or uninstalling) this particular app that adb won't uninstall?

I didn't know that this "T-Mobile Diagnostics" package existed.

What does it do that you would want it to do for you anyway?
And what happens if you delete "com.tmobile.echolocate" today?

Does it come back tomorrow?
So confused.

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