Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.

For those who can read German:
https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html

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On 11.10.2021 at 17:42, Christian Weisgerber scribbled:

> Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
>
> For those who can read German:
> https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
> https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html

Rest in peace, Jörg, and thank you for your many contributions to the
free & open source software community. You have truly made a difference
for the better in this world.

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With respect,
= Aragorn

Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> J?rg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
<snip>

Sad to hear and he was too young. Rest in peace.

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On 2021-10-11, Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

> Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.

One of the great individuals of our Linux world, my thoughts to his
family and friends...

Andrew

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:58:36 +0200
Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
> On 11.10.2021 at 17:42, Christian Weisgerber scribbled:
>
> > Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
> >
> > For those who can read German:
> > https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
> > https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html
>
> Rest in peace, Jörg, and thank you for your many contributions to the
> free & open source software community. You have truly made a difference
> for the better in this world.

Fully agree. He has made contributions on usenet too including this group.
Rest in peace.

On 14.10.2021 at 15:38, Spiros Bousbouras scribbled:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:58:36 +0200
> Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
> > On 11.10.2021 at 17:42, Christian Weisgerber scribbled:
> >
> > > Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
> > >
> > > For those who can read German:
> > > https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
> > > https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html
> > >
> >
> > Rest in peace, Jörg, and thank you for your many contributions to
> > the free & open source software community. You have truly made a
> > difference for the better in this world.
>
> Fully agree. He has made contributions on usenet too including this
> group. Rest in peace.

He was in many GNU/Linux and UNIX newsgroups, even going back as far as
the year 2000, which is when I first "met" him, Usenet-wise. He was
always helpful and informative, and many people are still using his
cdrtools software — myself included.

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= Aragorn

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 19:52:35 +0200
Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
> On 14.10.2021 at 15:38, Spiros Bousbouras scribbled:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:58:36 +0200
> > Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
> > > On 11.10.2021 at 17:42, Christian Weisgerber scribbled:
> > >
> > > > Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
> > > >
> > > > For those who can read German:
> > > > https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
> > > > https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Rest in peace, Jörg, and thank you for your many contributions to
> > > the free & open source software community. You have truly made a
> > > difference for the better in this world.
> >
> > Fully agree. He has made contributions on usenet too including this
> > group. Rest in peace.
>
> He was in many GNU/Linux and UNIX newsgroups, even going back as far as
> the year 2000, which is when I first "met" him, Usenet-wise. He was
> always helpful and informative, and many people are still using his
> cdrtools software — myself included.

I use cdrtools myself very often. It only occurred to me after I made
my previous reply. This is the first time as far as I can remember that
someone whose code I use has died so it was a shock for me. I guess the
open source movement is relatively young.

On 15.10.2021 02:53, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
> I guess the open source movement is relatively young.

I had my first contact with Open Source tools during the late 1980's.
Marking the FSF (Free Software Foundation) founding institutionally
as a sensible starting point (1985) I wouldn't call that "young",
in the fast evolving IT context even less. I'm glad the movement had
not only stayed alive for so long but even flourished and is now every
day an inherent part of (not necessarily knowingly) everyone's live.

Janis

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:49:42 +0200
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 15.10.2021 02:53, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> >
> > I guess the open source movement is relatively young.
>
> I had my first contact with Open Source tools during the late 1980's.
> Marking the FSF (Free Software Foundation) founding institutionally
> as a sensible starting point (1985) I wouldn't call that "young",
> in the fast evolving IT context even less.

It is young relative to the average human lifespan. As for IT evolving fast ,
new fashions (or "technologies") certainly appear at a quick pace but a lot
of the old also stick around. Unix , Fortran and COBOL are older than open
source (by decades for the last 2) and are still going strong.

> I'm glad the movement had
> not only stayed alive for so long but even flourished and is now every
> day an inherent part of (not necessarily knowingly) everyone's live.

On 15.10.2021 15:59, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:49:42 +0200
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 15.10.2021 02:53, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess the open source movement is relatively young.
>>
>> I had my first contact with Open Source tools during the late 1980's.
>> Marking the FSF (Free Software Foundation) founding institutionally
>> as a sensible starting point (1985) I wouldn't call that "young",
>> in the fast evolving IT context even less.
>
> It is young relative to the average human lifespan.

Well, it's still 35+ years, about two generations! (Even to human
lifespan that's a pretty long period. YMMV, of course.)

> As for IT evolving fast ,
> new fashions (or "technologies") certainly appear at a quick pace but a lot
> of the old also stick around. Unix , Fortran and COBOL are older than open
> source (by decades for the last 2) and are still going strong.

Lambda-Calculus or the first automatisms are even older. Not sure what
the reference to these two languages helps for the argument. They have
at best a relevance in legacy systems (that no one dares to touch) and
long grown libraries (that are primarily just called from other modern
languages). Only few people keep them alive, competent people who know
these languages are rare, switched platform and languages, or died. It
is therefore difficult to get things competently done with these old
languages, as far as I can tell from my experiences. YMMV. But I don't
intend to extend the argument with you on that, if only since "young"
is anyway an undetermined characterization and lies in the eye of the
beholder.

>
>> I'm glad the movement had
>> not only stayed alive for so long but even flourished and is now every
>> day an inherent part of (not necessarily knowingly) everyone's live.

The only thing I wanted to express here was that I was really astonished
how long that movement already existed. While I already knew it was long
existing, pondering about it in the context of the original thread topic
made it obvious (to me) how many years passed since its origin and
commanded even more deep respect for the open source movement.

Janis

On 2021-10-16, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 15.10.2021 15:59, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:49:42 +0200
>> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 15.10.2021 02:53, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess the open source movement is relatively young.
>>>
>>> I had my first contact with Open Source tools during the late 1980's.
>>> Marking the FSF (Free Software Foundation) founding institutionally
>>> as a sensible starting point (1985) I wouldn't call that "young",
>>> in the fast evolving IT context even less.
>>
>> It is young relative to the average human lifespan.
>
> Well, it's still 35+ years, about two generations! (Even to human
> lifespan that's a pretty long period. YMMV, of course.)
>
>> As for IT evolving fast ,
>> new fashions (or "technologies") certainly appear at a quick pace but a lot
>> of the old also stick around. Unix , Fortran and COBOL are older than open
>> source (by decades for the last 2) and are still going strong.
>
> Lambda-Calculus or the first automatisms are even older. Not sure what
> the reference to these two languages helps for the argument. They have
> at best a relevance in legacy systems (that no one dares to touch) and
> long grown libraries (that are primarily just called from other modern

Fortran is stillthe language of choice for people doing numerical work
It is not legacy.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 17:42:07 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

>Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
>
>For those who can read German:
>https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
>https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html

Thank you for letting us know. It is a shock as he was young. I
started to use his CD writing tool, cdrecord, in the late 90s and had
a few email exchanges trying to clear things up. He was curt, but
always helpful and resolved all my issues.

It looks like this happened some time ago.

https://marketresearchtelecast.com/obituary-the-open-source-world-mourns-jorg-schilling/176251/

The Wikipedia page for cdrtools aslo mentions the date as
10 Oct 2021.

Very tragic. RIP.

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