"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote

>> First off, I solved the OP's problem, which is the most important fact.
>> *Tutorial: Installing open-source automatic call recording (ACR) on Android 13+ Samsung Galaxy*
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/7mCHCktUuKw>
>
> Looks complicated... that will take me some time.

Hi Carlos,

It's actually pretty easy as they walk you through all the steps.
In fact, it took far longer to write it up than to actually do it.

I'm a naturally purposefully helpful person (which is why the iKooks
incense me to no end, as does Joerg & similarly unprepossessing souls.

When you were having problems, initially I felt for you but I knew it would
be a lot of work to find the solution - even as I was sure it existed.

After I did a bit of research (see prior cites), I latched onto the most
likely candidate being <https://acr.app> because of what they wrote up.

For example, any time an article says "it works" or "it doesn't work" but
they don't speak about the details (as it depends on the Android version),
then the article is garbage (and it's pretty much what the iKooks do).

This <https://acr.app> site went into the kind of detail that showed me
they knew what versions of Android needed which version of ACR Phone.

Bear in mind I was on Android 13, where Android 13 and 14 needed more
effort than Android 10 to Android 13, and that needed more than Android 9,
which itself needed more than Android 7 and Android 8 did.

Notice there is no possibility of a blanket statement of whether or not the
automatic call recording apps work or not if you don't know that detail.

As for the "automatic" part, I tested the _manual_ call recording, where I
was surprised to note how perfect the fidelity was (for a phone call).

I did not test the _automatic_ call recording because it brought ads with
it, so when I get a round tuit, I'll look for ad-free automatic recording.

In summary, it appears that ACR works fine for all versions of Android.
You just have to know how to do it - which is why I wrote that tutorial.

Obviously there are other methods which I haven't tested, but the method I
tested worked the first time and it was pretty simple to do, as summarized:

1. Install what they call the "ACR Store" (but it's just a simple browser).
2. Using the ACR Store browser, install both the "ACR Phone" & "APH" apps.
3. Start "ACR Phone" and follow the prompts.

Bear in mind you end up making "ACR Phone" your default phone dialer.
I'll use it for a while to see how it differs from Samsung's dialer.
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote

>> 3. What I like about GV is that it sends an email of any message to your
>> Google Account (which you can read on your computer if you like).
>> ...
>
> Google has announced they will removed the feature of sending texts and
> transcripts of voicemail to an e-mail address.

Hi Vanguard,

Bummer. That's one of the main features I liked about GV (other than the
clarity of the free phone calls over my WISP with high jitter numbers).

BTW, I solved the OP's problem, and wrote up a tutorial for you to try.
Tutorial <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/7mCHCktUuKw>
*Installing automatic call recording (ACR) on Android 13+ Samsung Galaxy*

The method I used, I think, works on all versions of Android but if you
have an older version than mine, it's even easier than what I wrote up.

1. Install what they call the "ACR Store" (but it's just a downloader app).
2. Using the ACR Store downloaqder, install the "ACR Phone" & "APH" apps.
3. Start "ACR Phone" and follow the prompts for one-time setup steps.

Then, whenever you want to record, either turn on the manual recorder, or,
if you're willing to put up with advertisements, set the automatic switch.

The one thing that is weird is the help said it doesn't work with "Wi-Fi
Calling" which I find odd - as it worked for me while on Wi-Fi.

I can't see how Wi-Fi calling could possibly matter anyway.
It's just recording the sound from the mic and speaker, right?

Any ideas why the instructions say it shouldn't work with Wi-Fi calling?
<https://acr.app/>

with <ks676nFc3tjU2@mid.individual.net> Carlos E. R. wrote:

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> But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
> you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.

I would say -- The G prohibitevely discourages such recordings. For
instance, mine (no-brand, niche product) with
com.android.server.telecom APK (aka -- "Call Management") (besides two
other c.a.s.components.*) introduces
com.mediatek.telecom.recording.PhoneRecorderServices . Then I guessed
what that rightmost circled dot (during outgoing phone call) does.

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> The alternative that I read about the other day was application on apk
> form, ie, not distributed by google play.
> Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?

Well, hold yout breath. Fdroid distributes such thing as
com.github.axet.callrecorder . OOH it suffers recent active(?)
development. Whatever it means -- I can't say, because, OTOH on A7 it's
capable to record mic only. It has bunch of methods(?) on board,
doesn't seek root, and then mic only. So there's that.

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On 11/28/23 2:20 AM, Eric Pozharski wrote:
> with <ks676nFc3tjU2@mid.individual.net> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> *SKIP* [ 8 lines 1 level deep]
>> But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
>> you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
>
> I would say -- The G prohibitevely discourages such recordings. For
> instance, mine (no-brand, niche product) with
> com.android.server.telecom APK (aka -- "Call Management") (besides two
> other c.a.s.components.*) introduces
> com.mediatek.telecom.recording.PhoneRecorderServices . Then I guessed
> what that rightmost circled dot (during outgoing phone call) does.
>
> *SKIP* [ 7 lines 1 level deep]
>> The alternative that I read about the other day was application on apk
>> form, ie, not distributed by google play.
>> Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
>
> Well, hold yout breath. Fdroid distributes such thing as
> com.github.axet.callrecorder . OOH it suffers recent active(?)
> development. Whatever it means -- I can't say, because, OTOH on A7 it's
> capable to record mic only. It has bunch of methods(?) on board,
> doesn't seek root, and then mic only. So there's that.

What about a separate 'recorder' app and then putting your phone on speaker?

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote

> What about a separate 'recorder' app and then putting your phone on speaker?

Just like they can't stop us from recording an image that displays on the
screen (even if they disallow screenshotting in the latest Android
versions), they can't stop you from recording any phone call.

The _easiest_ way I know of I've been testing for a few days for you, and
(so far) it works beautifully (surprisingly so as I had expected glitches).
*Tutorial: Installing open-source automatic call recording (ACR) on Android 13+ Samsung Galaxy*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/7mCHCktUuKw>

The dozen or so recorded phone calls I've done since are all crystal clear.

Having said that, there are a bunch of other methods, so all I want people
to do is STOP saying that it can't be done. It can be done.

People are concluding the wrong thing from the facts.
a. The facts show Google is hindering call recording, that's for sure.
b. But the facts show that you _can_ do call recording on any Android.

You just have to know how to do it.
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