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Subject: San Inc Pack PRODOS files help?
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 by: TRS-90 - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 00:43 UTC

At the risk of sounding dense, I cannot figure out how to use the "xxxx PRODOS (san inc pack).po" files from Asimov ../collections/san_inc_prodos.

In particular, I downloaded the newest additions Tracer Sanction and Mindshadow. Using CiderPress (in Windows), neither file could be accessed. CiderPress returned "not a recognised image file format."

Ok, so went ahead and put both files on a USB and attached to my IIgs with a CFFA3000. Unfortunately, the CF3k utility doesn't even display those particular files as being on the USB, so no way to add them to Smartport Assignments.

Figured a hardware-check was in order, so back to Windows and tried to add these files in AppleWin as hard disk images. No go. Boot, and immediately crashes to monitor.

Figured maybe it's not these particular images, so I downloaded several other "pack.po" images from the same directory. Same results as above.

Clearly I'm not understanding something. Missing a step or steps. The san inc "crack" images work fine. It's the "pack" files I'm not understanding.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks for reading.

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 by: fadden - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 04:44 UTC

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 5:42:08 PM UTC-7, matthe...@gmail.com wrote:
> In particular, I downloaded the newest additions Tracer Sanction and Mindshadow. Using CiderPress (in Windows), neither file could be accessed. CiderPress returned "not a recognised image file format."

I just downloaded https://www.apple.asimov.net/images/games/collections/san_inc_prodos/mindshadow%20PRODOS%20%28san%20inc%20pack%29.po . Opened fine with CiderPress as a standard 800KB ProDOS disk image.

"PRODOS" "SYS" "$0000" 06-Sep-86 12:00 ProDOS 15485
"LOADER.SYSTEM" "SYS" "$0000" 07-Oct-22 16:22 ProDOS 48
"MINDSHADOW" "BIN" "$0800" 07-Oct-22 18:58 ProDOS 1638
"MINDSHADOW.A" "BIN" "$0800" 07-Oct-22 19:06 ProDOS 24241
"MINDSHADOW.L" "BIN" "$1FF8" 07-Oct-22 18:54 ProDOS 1933
"MINDSHADOW.N" "BIN" "$1FF8" 07-Oct-22 18:54 ProDOS 4106
"MINDSHADOW.P" "BIN" "$3FF8" 07-Oct-22 18:54 ProDOS 12614
"MINDSHADOW.1" "NON" "$0000" 07-Oct-22 18:36 ProDOS 126976

The Tracer Sanction worked as well. Are the downloaded files 819,200 bytes long?

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 by: Andrew Roughan - Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:19 UTC

fadden <thefadden@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 5:42:08 PM UTC-7, matthe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> In particular, I downloaded the newest additions Tracer Sanction and
>> Mindshadow. Using CiderPress (in Windows), neither file could be
>> accessed. CiderPress returned "not a recognised image file format."
>
> I just downloaded
> https://www.apple.asimov.net/images/games/collections/san_inc_prodos/mindshadow%20PRODOS%20%28san%20inc%20pack%29.po
> . Opened fine with CiderPress as a standard 800KB ProDOS disk image.

> Are the downloaded files 819,200 bytes long?
>

Be sure to download the file as a binary and not as text.

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 by: TRS-90 - Sat, 15 Oct 2022 21:55 UTC

> Be sure to download the file as a binary and not as text.

This exactly was the problem. Since my FileZilla had been always set to "auto" and always got it right in the past, I never had this come up before. Much thanks!

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 by: sco...@alfter.diespammersdie.us - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:59 UTC

Andrew Roughan <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> fadden <thefadden@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 5:42:08 PM UTC-7, matthe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> In particular, I downloaded the newest additions Tracer Sanction and
>>> Mindshadow. Using CiderPress (in Windows), neither file could be
>>> accessed. CiderPress returned "not a recognised image file format."
>>
>> I just downloaded
>> https://www.apple.asimov.net/images/games/collections/san_inc_prodos/mindshadow%20PRODOS%20%28san%20inc%20pack%29.po
>> . Opened fine with CiderPress as a standard 800KB ProDOS disk image.
>
>> Are the downloaded files 819,200 bytes long?
>
> Be sure to download the file as a binary and not as text.

Since it's coming from a webserver, there's not really any control over that
as (AFAIK) all HTTP/HTTPS transfers are binary. RFC 2046 ยง4.1.1* says that
anything sent under the text/plain MIME type must use CR/LF newlines, though
most webservers don't enforce that and will send whatever is in the file.
In any case, the files being served up by Asimov shouldn't be (and aren't)
sent as text/plain, but are sent as application/octet-stream, which is the
catch-all binary MIME type.

For sh*ts and grins, I checked the copy on my mirror:

https://home.alfter.us/s/oHoqDa7yGDwc9Fd/download?path=%2Fpub%2Fapple_II%2Fimages%2Fgames%2Fcollections%2Fsan_inc_prodos&files=mindshadow%20PRODOS%20(san%20inc%20pack).po

It also opened in CiderPress without issue.

(My mirror is updated on Monday mornings (US/Pacific) by running wget
against the Asimov FTP server.)

* https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30519411/what-is-the-correct-newline-to-use-with-text-plain-contenttype

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