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Re: So much for privacy

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: So much for privacy
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by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:23 UTC

On 19/04/2021 12:12, Dan Espen wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 18/04/2021 17:09, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:28:21 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:07:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firefox 78, open but blank screen. Attached to no websites.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> netstat -anp | grep ESTA | grep firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tcp 0 0 192.168.0.100:42984 52.39.242.231:443
>>>>>> ESTABLISHED 14290/firefox
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazon.
>>>>
>>>> That's Amazon Web Services:
>>>>
>>>> us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
>>>>
>>>> So, it's not really Amazon it's someone using Amazon's servers.
>>>> Looks like the OPs ISP.
>>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>> Except it isn't my ISPs servers. why on earth would it be?
>
> Do you live near US West's network?
No.

>
> When you do a traceroute to google.com does US West show up?

I dunno/

traceroute --resolve-hostnames google.com
traceroute to google.com (142.250.187.238), 64 hops max
1 192.168.0.254 (192.168.0.254) 0.171ms 0.143ms 0.101ms
2 xx.xx.xx.xx (telehouse-gw10-10G.idnet.net) 9.917ms 10.220ms
10.214ms
3 212.69.63.126 (telehouse-gw7-10G.idnet.net) 10.356ms 10.376ms
10.430ms
4 5.57.80.136 (google1.lonap.net) 10.288ms 10.413ms 10.307ms
5 108.170.246.161 (108.170.246.161) 11.402ms 11.401ms 11.444ms
6 142.251.54.47 (142.251.54.47) 10.354ms 10.309ms 10.396ms
7 142.250.187.238 (lhr25s34-in-f14.1e100.net) 10.406ms 10.290ms
10.344ms

>
> When I look at the hosts my system accesses, I always find Verizon.
> I don't find that remarkable.
>
i do.

Myu ISP doesnt HAVE any 'servers' as such. Just a web site and I guess a
mail relay and DNS that I don't use.

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Re: So much for privacy

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Subject: Re: So much for privacy
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by: Dan Espen - Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:04 UTC

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

> On 19/04/2021 12:12, Dan Espen wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 18/04/2021 17:09, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:28:21 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:07:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Firefox 78, open but blank screen. Attached to no websites.,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> netstat -anp | grep ESTA | grep firefox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tcp 0 0 192.168.0.100:42984 52.39.242.231:443
>>>>>>> ESTABLISHED 14290/firefox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amazon.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Amazon Web Services:
>>>>>
>>>>> us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it's not really Amazon it's someone using Amazon's servers.
>>>>> Looks like the OPs ISP.
>>>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>>>
>>> Except it isn't my ISPs servers. why on earth would it be?
>> Do you live near US West's network?
> No.
>
>> When you do a traceroute to google.com does US West show up?
>
> I dunno/

My mistake about us-west-2 being related to an ISP.
Turns out, that's how Amazon Web Services names it's hosts.
For example, there's a us-east-1 host.

us-west-2 serves the Oregon area.

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Dan Espen

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by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:42 UTC

On 20/04/2021 16:04, Dan Espen wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 19/04/2021 12:12, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 18/04/2021 17:09, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:28:21 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:07:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Firefox 78, open but blank screen. Attached to no websites.,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> netstat -anp | grep ESTA | grep firefox
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tcp 0 0 192.168.0.100:42984 52.39.242.231:443
>>>>>>>> ESTABLISHED 14290/firefox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amazon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's Amazon Web Services:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, it's not really Amazon it's someone using Amazon's servers.
>>>>>> Looks like the OPs ISP.
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>>>>
>>>> Except it isn't my ISPs servers. why on earth would it be?
>>> Do you live near US West's network?
>> No.
>>
>>> When you do a traceroute to google.com does US West show up?
>>
>> I dunno/
>
> My mistake about us-west-2 being related to an ISP.
> Turns out, that's how Amazon Web Services names it's hosts.
> For example, there's a us-east-1 host.
>
> us-west-2 serves the Oregon area.
ah. yes.

THAT makes perfect sense now

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Subject	Author
Re: So much for privacy	The Natural Philosopher
Re: So much for privacy	Dan Espen
Re: So much for privacy	The Natural Philosopher