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* Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911lars...@nocrew.org
`* Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911Lars Brinkhoff
 `* Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911lordha...@gmail.com
  `* Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911Robert Armstrong
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Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911

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Subject: Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911
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 by: lars...@nocrew.org - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:06 UTC

> BUG.(HLT,COM911,D36COM,SOFT,<The date is past 9 November 2021>

I got this fix from Thomas DeBellis:

The DECnet-10 COM911 drop dead date of November 9th is now about three weeks
away (23 days). This will crash Tops-10 if it is up and force you to enter
a bogus date on boot up and hope it's not pulling the right date from
anything. That can happen on a KL, but I don't know about a KS.

I posted a patch to work around the issue to HECnet and make Tops-10 act
like OpenVMS in this regard on December 28th of last year.

In D36COM.MAC at NMXTIM+9, change the following two lines (which skip or
fall into the COM911 BUGHLT),

SKIPL T2 ;MAKE SURE WE HAVE A POSITIVE NUMBER OF SECONDS
TDNE T1,[XWD -1,600000] ;MAKE SURE NO DATE OVERFLOW

to

SKIPGE T2 ;Do WE HAVE A POSITIVE NUMBER OF SECONDS?
MOVMS T2 ; No. Fine, now we're plenty positive
TDZA T1,[XWD -1,600000] ;MAKE SURE never any DATE OVERFLOW ever

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From: lars.s...@nocrew.org (Lars Brinkhoff)
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Subject: Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911
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 by: Lars Brinkhoff - Thu, 4 Nov 2021 15:12 UTC

>> BUG.(HLT,COM911,D36COM,SOFT,<The date is past 9 November 2021>
> I got this fix from Thomas DeBellis

He adds:

It turns out that you can change the fix slightly to be able to patch
the monitor directly with FILDDT. You want to change two instructions
at NMXTIM+13 from:

NMXTIM+12/ IDIV T3,TICSEC
NMXTIM+13/ SKIPL T2
NMXTIM+14/ TDNA T1,COMCAW+10
NMXTIM+15/ XCT COM911

To:

NMXTIM+12/ IDIV T3,TICSEC
NMXTIM+13/ MOVMS T2
NMXTIM+14/ TDZA T1,COMCAW+10
NMXTIM+15/ XCT COM911

So doing that will keep you from crashing. You can even deposit it
right into the running monitor (one hesitates to say, 'toggle'...)

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Subject: Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911
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 by: lordha...@gmail.com - Fri, 5 Nov 2021 02:24 UTC

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 11:12:47 AM UTC-4, lars...@nocrew.org wrote:
> >> BUG.(HLT,COM911,D36COM,SOFT,<The date is past 9 November 2021>
> > I got this fix from Thomas DeBellis
> He adds:
>
> It turns out that you can change the fix slightly to be able to patch
> the monitor directly with FILDDT. You want to change two instructions
> at NMXTIM+13 from:
>
> NMXTIM+12/ IDIV T3,TICSEC
> NMXTIM+13/ SKIPL T2
> NMXTIM+14/ TDNA T1,COMCAW+10
> NMXTIM+15/ XCT COM911
>
> To:
>
> NMXTIM+12/ IDIV T3,TICSEC
> NMXTIM+13/ MOVMS T2
> NMXTIM+14/ TDZA T1,COMCAW+10
> NMXTIM+15/ XCT COM911
>
> So doing that will keep you from crashing. You can even deposit it
> right into the running monitor (one hesitates to say, 'toggle'...)

Hey folks, how might an amateur TOPS-10 operator do this fix? I run FILDDT and then enter the NMXTIM commands?

Thanks for any simple steps!

Andy

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Subject: Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911
From: bob...@jfcl.com (Robert Armstrong)
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 by: Robert Armstrong - Fri, 5 Nov 2021 14:53 UTC

> Hey folks, how might an amateur TOPS-10 operator do this fix?
>I run FILDDT and then enter the NMXTIM commands?

I may have forgotten a step or two, but ...

Log is as [1,2]
COPY [1,5]=SYSTEM.EXE[1,4]
R FILDDT
File: SYSTEM[1,5]
NXMTIM+13/ (you should see DDT type the "SKIPL T2...") MOVMS T2 <CTRL-J>
(DDT should type NXMTIM+14 and the TDNA... You enter the TDZA ... et al and CTRL-J)
CTRL-Z
Shutdown and reboot
At the BOOT> prompt, enter "[1,5]"
You should now be running the patched monitor.
If all is well, you can rename SYSTEM.EXE[1,4] to [1,3], and then rename SYSTEM.EXE[1,5] to [1,4].

BTW, on TOPS-10 [1,5] is NEW:, [1,4] is SYS: and [1,3] is OLD:.

Bob

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Subject: Re: TOPS-10 BUGHLT COM911
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 by: lordha...@gmail.com - Fri, 5 Nov 2021 21:31 UTC

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-4, Robert Armstrong wrote:
> > Hey folks, how might an amateur TOPS-10 operator do this fix?
> >I run FILDDT and then enter the NMXTIM commands?
> I may have forgotten a step or two, but ...
>
> Log is as [1,2]
> COPY [1,5]=SYSTEM.EXE[1,4]
> R FILDDT
> File: SYSTEM[1,5]
> NXMTIM+13/ (you should see DDT type the "SKIPL T2...") MOVMS T2 <CTRL-J>
> (DDT should type NXMTIM+14 and the TDNA... You enter the TDZA ... et al and CTRL-J)
> CTRL-Z
> Shutdown and reboot
> At the BOOT> prompt, enter "[1,5]"
> You should now be running the patched monitor.
> If all is well, you can rename SYSTEM.EXE[1,4] to [1,3], and then rename SYSTEM.EXE[1,5] to [1,4].
>
> BTW, on TOPS-10 [1,5] is NEW:, [1,4] is SYS: and [1,3] is OLD:.
>
> Bob

Thanks Bob I will give that a whirl and report back!

Andy

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