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* Re: Ctrl+Shift+V vs Ctrl+V.Alan Bowler
`- Re: Ctrl+Shift+V vs Ctrl+V.Spiros Bousbouras

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Subject: Re: Ctrl+Shift+V vs Ctrl+V.
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 by: Alan Bowler - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 00:53 UTC

On 2021-02-18 11:35 p.m., Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> [Crossposting to alt.folklore.computers]
>
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 02:38:50 -0000 (UTC)
> Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 2021-02-19, hongy...@gmail.com <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> $ man ascii|grep 007
>>> 007 7 07 BEL '\a' (bell) 107 71 47 G
>>
>>> But I still can't find the official documentation for the explanation of
>>> the equivalence of ^G and '\a'. Any hints will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> G is the 7th letter, ^G represents "control code 7". The '\a' is for
>> "alert", as '\b' is used for "backspace".
>
> I was under the impression that it's because 7+64 = 71 .Obviously you get
> the same result either way but I was under the impression that 64 has
> something to do with it.

It does. On combinatorial keyboards like teletypes and others
had CTRL toggled the 0100 (64) bit and SHIFT toggled the 0040 bit.

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Tue, 22 Feb 2022 11:38 UTC

On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:53:09 -0500
Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> wrote:
> On 2021-02-18 11:35 p.m., Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> > [Crossposting to alt.folklore.computers]
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 02:38:50 -0000 (UTC)
> > Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> wrote:
> >> On 2021-02-19, hongy...@gmail.com <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> $ man ascii|grep 007
> >>> 007 7 07 BEL '\a' (bell) 107 71 47 G
> >>
> >>> But I still can't find the official documentation for the explanation of
> >>> the equivalence of ^G and '\a'. Any hints will be highly appreciated.
> >>
> >> G is the 7th letter, ^G represents "control code 7". The '\a' is for
> >> "alert", as '\b' is used for "backspace".
> >
> > I was under the impression that it's because 7+64 = 71 .Obviously you get
> > the same result either way but I was under the impression that 64 has
> > something to do with it.
>
> It does. On combinatorial keyboards like teletypes and others
> had CTRL toggled the 0100 (64) bit and SHIFT toggled the 0040 bit.

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