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* Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...Nomen Nescio
+* Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...sticks
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`- Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...David E. Ross

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Subject: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...
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 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 03:45 UTC

http://www.rossde.com/PGP/index.html

That page took a LOT of work to setup!

I put it on my computer in case for some reason it leaves the Web.

That page is what I needed to learn more than just encrypting a simple email.

THANKS a ton!

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From: wolverin...@charter.net (sticks)
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Subject: Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...
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 by: sticks - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 04:30 UTC

On 10/29/2022 10:45 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> http://www.rossde.com/PGP/index.html
>
> That page took a LOT of work to setup!
>
> I put it on my computer in case for some reason it leaves the Web.
>
> That page is what I needed to learn more than just encrypting a simple email.
>
> THANKS a ton!

Hilarious! A link on the above page.

https://www.rossde.com/copyright.html

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 09:46 UTC

In article <tjkukh$3v1o7$1@dont-email.me>
sticks <wolverine.01@charter.net> wrote:
>
> On 10/29/2022 10:45 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > http://www.rossde.com/PGP/index.html
> >
> > That page took a LOT of work to setup!
> >
> > I put it on my computer in case for some reason it leaves the Web.
> >
> > That page is what I needed to learn more than just encrypting a simple email.
> >
> > THANKS a ton!
>
> Hilarious! A link on the above page.
>
> https://www.rossde.com/copyright.html

I never noticed that page. If I had , I wouldn't have posted my thank-
you remarks to him here. I come across great reference pages like that
every now and then and copy them for my own use. What can I say?

I have no intention of using them for any benefit of my own except for
learning from them.

Sorry about that, Ross.

Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...

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From: nob...@notme.invalid (David E. Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general
Subject: Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:54:55 -0700
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 by: David E. Ross - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 15:54 UTC

On 10/29/2022 8:45 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> http://www.rossde.com/PGP/index.html
>
> That page took a LOT of work to setup!
>
> I put it on my computer in case for some reason it leaves the Web.
>
> That page is what I needed to learn more than just encrypting a simple email.
>
> THANKS a ton!
>

Do not copy it. Merely save a bookmark (favorite) to it. That way, you
will not miss any changes I might make.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Beyond Meat and other such vegetarian meat substitutes
represent the ultimate in ultra-processed foods. Real
meat is natural. Beyond Meat is definitely not.

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Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general
Subject: Re: Hey, Ross...Copied Your PGP Page...
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 by: Stan Brown - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 20:50 UTC

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 23:30:09 -0500, sticks wrote:
>
> Hilarious! A link on the above page.
>
> https://www.rossde.com/copyright.html

"On occasion, I restructure my Web site, moving selected pages from
one directory within my domain to another. When I do this, I usually
leave a truncated page at the old location for about two months, with
a warning that the page has moved and that viewers should update
their bookmarks and links. Again, I cannot be held responsible for
broken links resulting from moved pages."

That's what Microsoft does a lot, and it's highly annoying. (To say
"I can't be held responsible for what I did" is disingenuous at
best.) Both Microsoft, and the page quoted, could eliminate the
annoyance by adding redirects in their server. It's one line per
redirect in the .htaccess file on Apache servers, and I can't imagine
it's much worse in IIS or whatever Microsoft uses for servers now.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Stan Brown - Sun, 30 Oct 2022 20:53 UTC

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:46:17 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:
> I never noticed that page. If I had , I wouldn't have posted my thank-
> you remarks to him here. I come across great reference pages like that
> every now and then and copy them for my own use. What can I say?
>
> I have no intention of using them for any benefit of my own except for
> learning from them.
>
> Sorry about that, Ross.

I think the objection is to copying a page and posting it on your
website, not to saving it to your own local PC. The problem with
copying it and putting it up publicly is that your copy will go out
of date as changes are made to the original, so people who look at
your website won't see what the actual author intends.

www.archive.org/web does that, but when you search for a saved page
you get the whole historical record.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Mon, 31 Oct 2022 01:00 UTC

In article <MPG.3dc88411a4dfc8f898ffe5@news.individual.net>
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:46:17 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > I never noticed that page. If I had , I wouldn't have posted my thank-
> > you remarks to him here. I come across great reference pages like that
> > every now and then and copy them for my own use. What can I say?
> >
> > I have no intention of using them for any benefit of my own except for
> > learning from them.
> >
> > Sorry about that, Ross.
>
> I think the objection is to copying a page and posting it on your
> website, not to saving it to your own local PC. The problem with
> copying it and putting it up publicly is that your copy will go out
> of date as changes are made to the original, so people who look at
> your website won't see what the actual author intends.
>

As you said, it probably will be updated by the actual owner, whereas
the reposter probably will never update them.

I've seen too many really great sites disappear for many reasons. I
wanted this one for my own continued learning and renewing my poor
memory. They are so clearly written and easily understood, which is
not true of a lot of such sites.

> www.archive.org/web does that, but when you search for a saved page
> you get the whole historical record.

Yes, I do know about sites like the Wayback Machine, but with some
pages so useful I want to make sure I have them in case they don't
make the archives for whatever reason.

And Ross did not throw a shite fit as some would have. Which was nice.

> --
> Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
> Shikata ga nai...

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