I've been using Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7, 10, and 11 machines.
Once in a while, it has issues, but still serves me well, and I like it.
It's simple, does what I need. Attachments, searches...and MailStore
archives it.

I know that at some point I'll need to replace it with a modern email
client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if folders on all my machines
are synched. Different machines have different folder trees.

For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your Comcast
web email, what client do you use?

I've looked at the list of clients, but would like your comments. Free is
good, but not necessary, but I do have five machines that would use
whatever.

I don't care for Thunderbird (but MailStore does archive it).

Thanks.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 03:59:04 -0000 (UTC), Boris <nospam@invalid.com>
wrote:

>
>I've been using Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7, 10, and 11 machines.
>Once in a while, it has issues, but still serves me well, and I like it.
>It's simple, does what I need. Attachments, searches...and MailStore
>archives it.
>
>I know that at some point I'll need to replace it with a modern email
>client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if folders on all my machines
>are synched. Different machines have different folder trees.
>
>For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your Comcast
>web email, what client do you use?
>
>I've looked at the list of clients, but would like your comments. Free is
>good, but not necessary, but I do have five machines that would use
>whatever.
>
>I don't care for Thunderbird (but MailStore does archive it).
>
>Thanks.

I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
"permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
free program.

https://www.emclient.com/

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dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:

> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been using Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7, 10, and 11
>> machines. Once in a while, it has issues, but still serves me well,
>> and I like it. It's simple, does what I need. Attachments,
>> searches...and MailStore archives it.
>>
>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace it with a modern
>> email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if folders on all
>> my machines are synched. Different machines have different folder
>> trees.
>>
>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>
>> I've looked at the list of clients, but would like your comments.
>> Free is good, but not necessary, but I do have five machines that
>> would use whatever.
>>
>> I don't care for Thunderbird (but MailStore does archive it).
>
> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
> free program.
>
> https://www.emclient.com/

Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the max
account limit.

There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they are
slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want to
spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same Google
project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter if you
use the free version or pay for it.

https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.

For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when adding
a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP. I use
IMAP.

I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per year.
I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale wasn't
until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal price. The
only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on Black Friday
sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount. For example:

https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%202022%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html

To see what features are missing in their free version, see:

https://www.emclient.com/pricing

Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when polling
halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting polled. The
features for which made me decide to buy were:

- More than 2 accounts.
- Watch for reply.
- Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
- Send later.

But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
Windows.

I've trialed Thunderbird perhaps half a dozen times. The last trial
lasted 6 months to give it more than a fair chance to win my approval.
I still ended up dumping Thunderbird to find something better. I have
not trialed Betterbird, a fork of Thunderbird. Thunderbird is also just
for Windows, macOS, and Linux. Their foray into Android is the K-9 app
they acquired but have yet to rename. No foray into iOS yet.

Some folks use BlueMail. Has free and pay versions. For pay, it's
subscriptionware, and seems a bit pricey at $5/user/month or
$49/user/year. I don't care for subscriptionware. If they had a
perennial license then I might consider re-trialing it. I also don't
care for mobile-looking e-mail clients (they have Windows UWP, Android,
and iOS apps), but there was some other reason I decided to end its
trial, but cannot now remember. I was looking at BlueMail to give me
the same (or nearly the same) e-mail/calendar/tasks app across both
Windows and Android.

On 10/9/23 05:25 PM, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
> dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:
>
>> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7, 10, and 11
>>> machines. Once in a while, it has issues, but still serves me well,
>>> and I like it. It's simple, does what I need. Attachments,
>>> searches...and MailStore archives it.
>>>
>>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace it with a modern
>>> email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if folders on all
>>> my machines are synched. Different machines have different folder
>>> trees.
>>>
>>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>>
>>> I've looked at the list of clients, but would like your comments.
>>> Free is good, but not necessary, but I do have five machines that
>>> would use whatever.
>>>
>>> I don't care for Thunderbird (but MailStore does archive it).
>>
>> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
>> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
>> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
>> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
>> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
>> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
>> free program.
>>
>> https://www.emclient.com/
>
> Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
> Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
> confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the max
> account limit.
>
> There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
> Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
> quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they are
> slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want to
> spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same Google
> project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter if you
> use the free version or pay for it.
>
> https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
> or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.
>
> For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when adding
> a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP. I use
> IMAP.
>
> I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per year.
> I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale wasn't
> until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal price. The
> only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on Black Friday
> sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount. For example:
>
> https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%202022%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html
>
> To see what features are missing in their free version, see:
>
> https://www.emclient.com/pricing
>
> Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
> not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when polling
> halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting polled. The
> features for which made me decide to buy were:
>
> - More than 2 accounts.
> - Watch for reply.
> - Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
> - Send later.
>
> But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
> So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
> Windows.
>
> I've trialed Thunderbird perhaps half a dozen times. The last trial
> lasted 6 months to give it more than a fair chance to win my approval.
> I still ended up dumping Thunderbird to find something better. I have
> not trialed Betterbird, a fork of Thunderbird. Thunderbird is also just
> for Windows, macOS, and Linux. Their foray into Android is the K-9 app
> they acquired but have yet to rename. No foray into iOS yet.
>
> Some folks use BlueMail. Has free and pay versions. For pay, it's
> subscriptionware, and seems a bit pricey at $5/user/month or
> $49/user/year. I don't care for subscriptionware. If they had a
> perennial license then I might consider re-trialing it. I also don't
> care for mobile-looking e-mail clients (they have Windows UWP, Android,
> and iOS apps), but there was some other reason I decided to end its
> trial, but cannot now remember. I was looking at BlueMail to give me
> the same (or nearly the same) e-mail/calendar/tasks app across both
> Windows and Android.
I wonder if it works in Linux under Wine? Sounds like a viable email client if you can buy it at the discount.
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:
>>
>>> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace [Windows Live Mail]
>>>> with a modern email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if
>>>> folders on all my machines are synched. Different machines have
>>>> different folder trees.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>>>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>>
>>> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
>>> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
>>> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
>>> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
>>> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
>>> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
>>> free program.
>>>
>>> https://www.emclient.com/
>>
>> Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
>> Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
>> confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the max
>> account limit.
>>
>> There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
>> Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
>> quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they are
>> slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want to
>> spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same Google
>> project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter if you
>> use the free version or pay for it.
>>
>> https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
>> or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.
>>
>> For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when adding
>> a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP. I use
>> IMAP.
>>
>> I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per year.
>> I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale wasn't
>> until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal price. The
>> only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on Black Friday
>> sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount. For example:
>>
>> https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%202022%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html
>>
>> To see what features are missing in their free version, see:
>>
>> https://www.emclient.com/pricing
>>
>> Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
>> not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when polling
>> halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting polled. The
>> features for which made me decide to buy were:
>>
>> - More than 2 accounts.
>> - Watch for reply.
>> - Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
>> - Send later.
>>
>> But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
>> So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
>> Windows.
>
> I wonder if it works in Linux under Wine? Sounds like a viable email client if you can buy it at the discount.

There is no native Linux version of eM Client. You'd think it would
work under WINE, except eM Client is dependent on the .NET Framework in
Windows which you cannot get 100% under WINE. Instead of WINE, use a
VMM on Linux which loads a VM to load Windows under which you can then
run the eM Client.

On 10/10/23 04:09 AM, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace [Windows Live Mail]
>>>>> with a modern email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if
>>>>> folders on all my machines are synched. Different machines have
>>>>> different folder trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>>>>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>>>
>>>> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
>>>> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
>>>> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
>>>> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
>>>> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
>>>> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
>>>> free program.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.emclient.com/
>>>
>>> Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
>>> Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
>>> confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the max
>>> account limit.
>>>
>>> There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
>>> Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
>>> quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they are
>>> slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want to
>>> spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same Google
>>> project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter if you
>>> use the free version or pay for it.
>>>
>>> https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
>>> or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.
>>>
>>> For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when adding
>>> a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP. I use
>>> IMAP.
>>>
>>> I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per year.
>>> I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale wasn't
>>> until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal price. The
>>> only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on Black Friday
>>> sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount. For example:
>>>
>>> https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%202022%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html
>>>
>>> To see what features are missing in their free version, see:
>>>
>>> https://www.emclient.com/pricing
>>>
>>> Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
>>> not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when polling
>>> halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting polled. The
>>> features for which made me decide to buy were:
>>>
>>> - More than 2 accounts.
>>> - Watch for reply.
>>> - Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
>>> - Send later.
>>>
>>> But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
>>> So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
>>> Windows.
>>
>> I wonder if it works in Linux under Wine? Sounds like a viable email client if you can buy it at the discount.
>
> There is no native Linux version of eM Client. You'd think it would
> work under WINE, except eM Client is dependent on the .NET Framework in
> Windows which you cannot get 100% under WINE. Instead of WINE, use a
> VMM on Linux which loads a VM to load Windows under which you can then
> run the eM Client.
Not likely. For email I want it 24/7 on my desktop and I don't want resources taken up by a VM. I have windows in a vm
and it might be fun to try it out though. My wife is on Windows only so she might benefit. I've locked her system to
stop at 102.
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

On 10/10/23 04:09 AM, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace [Windows Live Mail]
>>>>> with a modern email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if
>>>>> folders on all my machines are synched. Different machines have
>>>>> different folder trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>>>>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>>>
>>>> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
>>>> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
>>>> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
>>>> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
>>>> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
>>>> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
>>>> free program.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.emclient.com/
>>>
>>> Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
>>> Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
>>> confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the max
>>> account limit.
>>>
>>> There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
>>> Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
>>> quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they are
>>> slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want to
>>> spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same Google
>>> project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter if you
>>> use the free version or pay for it.
>>>
>>> https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
>>> or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.
>>>
>>> For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when adding
>>> a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP. I use
>>> IMAP.
>>>
>>> I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per year.
>>> I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale wasn't
>>> until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal price. The
>>> only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on Black Friday
>>> sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount. For example:
>>>
>>> https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%202022%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html
>>>
>>> To see what features are missing in their free version, see:
>>>
>>> https://www.emclient.com/pricing
>>>
>>> Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
>>> not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when polling
>>> halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting polled. The
>>> features for which made me decide to buy were:
>>>
>>> - More than 2 accounts.
>>> - Watch for reply.
>>> - Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
>>> - Send later.
>>>
>>> But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
>>> So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
>>> Windows.
>>
>> I wonder if it works in Linux under Wine? Sounds like a viable email client if you can buy it at the discount.
>
> There is no native Linux version of eM Client. You'd think it would
> work under WINE, except eM Client is dependent on the .NET Framework in
> Windows which you cannot get 100% under WINE. Instead of WINE, use a
> VMM on Linux which loads a VM to load Windows under which you can then
> run the eM Client.
Not likely. For email I want it 24/7 on my desktop and I don't want resources taken up by a VM. I have windows in a vm
and it might be fun to try it out though. My wife is on Windows only so she might benefit. I've locked her system to
stop at 102.
--
Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon
Al

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:1ban550now599$.dlg@v.nguard.lh:

> dyno dan <logic@is.important> wrote:
>
>> Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7, 10, and 11
>>> machines. Once in a while, it has issues, but still serves me well,
>>> and I like it. It's simple, does what I need. Attachments,
>>> searches...and MailStore archives it.
>>>
>>> I know that at some point I'll need to replace it with a modern
>>> email client. I also prefer POP3. I don't care if folders on all
>>> my machines are synched. Different machines have different folder
>>> trees.
>>>
>>> For those of you that use an email client to retrieve or send your
>>> Comcast web email, what client do you use?
>>>
>>> I've looked at the list of clients, but would like your comments.
>>> Free is good, but not necessary, but I do have five machines that
>>> would use whatever.
>>>
>>> I don't care for Thunderbird (but MailStore does archive it).
>>
>> I've been using eM Client for several years now on Win-7 thru Win-11.
>> It is free for a single user, and can be transferred to a different
>> computer (but only used on one computer at a time. You can
>> "permanently" use it on a different computer by entering the
>> registration code. I 've done this with three computers, just moving
>> the registration back and forth.). Lot's of bells & whistles for a
>> free program.
>>
>> https://www.emclient.com/
>
> Eventually I paid for eM Client to get rid of the 2 max account limit.
> Although you can define more than 2 accounts, eventually it gets
> confused, and stops polling the accounts. Buying it eliminates the
> max account limit.
>
> There is also a problem with the free version when it uses the Gmail
> Mail API to access a Gmail account. The company has tried to up their
> quota in the Google project to account for more free users, but they
> are slow to respond, and don't up their quota much. They don't want
> to spend a lot on buying more API quota for free users. The same
> Google project gets used for the Mail API calls, so it doesn't matter
> if you use the free version or pay for it.
>
> https://forum.emclient.com/t/exceeded-api-quota-error/49437
> or search on "exceeded api" in their forum.

Interesting back and forth.

>
> For free users, the cure is to not use the default protocol when
> adding a Gmail account, and instead configuring it to use POP or IMAP.
> I use IMAP.
>
> I waited until they had a half-off sale which is once or twice per
> year. I think it was about Black Friday, but they responded their sale
> wasn't until the next week. I paid $27 instead of the $60 normal
> price. The only way I found out about the sale is I was checking on
> Black Friday sales, and only in their blog did they note the discount.
> For example:
>
> https://www.emclient.com/showmailtemplate.ashx?name=Black%20Friday%2020
> 22%20for%20Pro%20Users&language=en&type=html
>
> To see what features are missing in their free version, see:
>
> https://www.emclient.com/pricing
>
> Note they still specify 2 accounts maximum, but their add wizard does
> not prevent you from defining more. Later you'll be sorry when
> polling halts, and it's random on which account(s) stop getting
> polled. The features for which made me decide to buy were:
>
> - More than 2 accounts.
> - Watch for reply.
> - Undo send (so up the send delay to give you a chance to cancel).
> - Send later.
>
> But I wasn't paying $59 for eM Client. Got it when it went on sale.
> So, keep watching. Black Friday is coming. eM Client is just for
> Windows.
>

I had been looking at emClient. I'd follow your advice and get the paid
version, but wait for a Black Friday sale. In the meantime, I may trial
it for free.

Does emClient 'do' inline jpgs?

> I've trialed Thunderbird perhaps half a dozen times. The last trial
> lasted 6 months to give it more than a fair chance to win my approval.
> I still ended up dumping Thunderbird to find something better. I have
> not trialed Betterbird, a fork of Thunderbird. Thunderbird is also
> just for Windows, macOS, and Linux. Their foray into Android is the
> K-9 app they acquired but have yet to rename. No foray into iOS yet.
>
> Some folks use BlueMail. Has free and pay versions. For pay, it's
> subscriptionware, and seems a bit pricey at $5/user/month or
> $49/user/year. I don't care for subscriptionware.

Ditto.

If they had a
> perennial license then I might consider re-trialing it. I also don't
> care for mobile-looking e-mail clients (they have Windows UWP,
> Android, and iOS apps), but there was some other reason I decided to
> end its trial, but cannot now remember. I was looking at BlueMail to
> give me the same (or nearly the same) e-mail/calendar/tasks app across
> both Windows and Android.
>
..
I did try BlueMail on my Android phone, but it was real buggy.
Downloads were sloooooooow. Some emails never showed up. Also seemed
like there were too many setting options that didn't add much to it's
functionality, but it looked pretty on my phone.

Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

> Does emClient 'do' inline jpgs?

By "inline" I'm assuming you mean will it show attachments in the body
of a message. Whether an attachment is inline or attached depends on
how the sender affixed the object. The disposition says how to behave.

In the MIME part containing the attachment is a disposition argument.
It can be:

disposition=attach
disposition=inline

Note that the disposition attribute is merely a suggestion to the client
in how to render a message. The client does not have to obey. For
e-mails that I get and viewed in eM Client, attachments can be inline
(usually images inserted by the sender, and with disposition=inline) or
attached (disposition=attach).

https://help.perforce.com/sourcepro/11/html/protocolsug/10-1.html
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2183.txt

Oops, guess that's the Content-Disposition header in the MIME headers,
as in Content-Disposition: attach, or Content-Disposition: attach. All
text is sent as plain text. HTML is text with tags. Binaries get
converted to long text strings in MIME parts. Those damn Word-polluted
e-mails have tons of headers and directives specific only to Word in
facilitating how to render a message, but that means you need to use a
client that supports Word (which, of course, are the Microsoft clients).
Other clients will ignore the unknown headers and directives, so any
Word specific rendering operators are ignored. Email is always all
text, because ASCII is what the SMTP protocol was designed to handle
hence why MIME came along to allow binary-to-text encoding to carry
non-text content.

If the header is absent, the client can decide however it wants to
present the MIME part. It's an optional header. That means the sender
somehow managed to get their client to not add the header. Since the
location is unknown, my guess is the client will show the attachment as
attached to the message instead in the message.

I looked at some e-mails that I've received that had attachments. Those
with "Content-Disposition: inline" showed the images where the MIME
block was present within the body of the message.

For inline, the client should show that attachment in the body. For
attach, the client will have its own means of indicating there is an
attachment, like a list of attachments in a header row in the preview
pane, or a list of attachments shown at the end of the body of the
message. EM Client shows attach disposition attachments in 2 ways. The
default is to show an Attachments column in the header list pane wherein
is shown a paperclip icon, and in the preview pane below the default
headers (Subject, From, To) as both the paperclip icon, and as a list of
attachments with each inside a hollow bubble just to help delineate the
name of the attachment.

To see what eM Client would do with a MIME part holding an attachment
that is missing the optional Content-Disposition header, I'd have to do
a raw source search through all my e-mails trying to find e-mails with
MIME parts missing that header. Nah, not worth my time. I'm sure eM
Client would show undeclared attachments as a list of attachments. It
wouldn't know where in the body to insert.

> I did try BlueMail on my Android phone, but it was real buggy.
> Downloads were sloooooooow. Some emails never showed up. Also seemed
> like there were too many setting options that didn't add much to it's
> functionality, but it looked pretty on my phone.

BlueMail is one of those UWP offerings that needs more work. Alas,
that's true of many UWP apps, including even eM Client.

Editions of software written as UWP apps often don't match the feature
set of the Win32 editions. Alas, nowadays there are only the mobile app
versions, and no dev into a Win32 or Linux version. Often a Win32
program may get an app version, but not the other way around. Another
problem is the dev group writing the apps are not those that wrote the
legacy versions for desktops, so the app devs are still learning and
don't have the same depth of expertise (they've not had as much time).

Em Client also has a UWP (Universal Windows Platform) app, but, I think,
it was also slow, but not bad. However, there is no easy way to add it
as a startup program to get it to load when you log into your Windows
account. It's possible, but you have to find the AppID for the program,
and create the shortcut yourself in your Startup folder, or add as a
login event in Task Scheduler. There is no option within the Em Client
app to have it load on startup (well, on login). I stayed with the
Win32 edition (program) of eM Client.

https://forum.emclient.com/t/em-client-program-versus-em-client-app-windows-10-any-difference/61572/4

After trying their UWP app on Windows, I didn't bother to try it on my
Android phone. I already using MS Outlook on my Android phone. While
others have reported some problems with it, I have not. Of course,
there are complaints on everything available on any platform.

eM Client UWP app:
https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/em-client/9NM8S4PVF0N2?hl=en-us&gl=US

eM Client program:
https://www.emclient.com/download

eM CLient Android app:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=em%20client&c=apps

eM CLient macOS:
https://www.emclient.com/download-mac

eM Client iOS (beta, requires TestFlight app):
https://testflight.apple.com/join/nzXZuIQs

If you can get a Win32 edition of a program, do that instead of the UWP
edition. I never recommend betaware, and I'm sure the Apple iPhone
folks have lots of e-mail client choices. I don't how the eM Client
Android app functions or behaves (already made my choice to use a
different e-mail app on Android).

I'm not saying eM Client is perfect. I don't think perfect software has
ever existed hence the need for updates. While I have MS 365 Pro on my
desktop PC, I haven't yet gone back to using MS Outlook. I had MS
Office before (about 3+ years ago), but decided to stop paying for that
subscriptionware. I switch to alternatives, like LibreOffice, but keep
falling short of features I needed in MS Office/365. I decided to buy
the standalone MS Office Pro Plus 2021 (it was super-cheap at $30, and
legit, through a Gamespot.com seller), but have not had motivation to
migrate back to Outlook (which I used for decades, and became proficient
at using).

The OP said free was preferred, but not mandatory. So, MS 365 is a
choice, or MS Office standalone. Gamespot is having another sale on MS
Office 2021 (standalone, not subscriptionware) for $33.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-office-2021-is-only-30-this-week-pc-and-mac-editions-available/1100-6510571/
$33 dollars until Oct 15.

That's where I got it for $29.99 back in Nov 2021. Still working. Many
other users bought through them, and I've not heard of licensing issues.
Like Walmart, Newegg, and many other e-tailers, they act as a front-end
for other sellers. Gamespot does that, too. The above sale is by
NERDUSED selling through Gamespot. However, you have to catch the
Gamespot Deals to get the low price when the seller has a special sale.
There could be a cheaper place to buy MS Office 2021 Pro Plus, but I
don't care about shaving a few dollers by buying from an unknown. I've
not had to contest a purchase through Gamespot, so I don't how well they
facilitate refunds, returns, or other problems with an order.