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EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety Features

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From: gordian...@hotmail.com (Jim_Higgins)
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by: Jim_Higgins - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 16:43 UTC

EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety
Features
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/06/eff-urges-apple-abandon-csam-plans/

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by: nospam - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 16:48 UTC

In article <sh5gfn$koj$1@dont-email.me>, Jim_Higgins
<gordian240@hotmail.com> wrote:

> EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety
> Features

why don't they pressure google, facebook, microsoft and others for an
even more invasive check?

maybe the eff has a stash of kiddie porn on apple's servers and doesn't
want to get caught with it.

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From: unbeatab...@ctrl-c.club (William Davis)
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Subject: Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child
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by: William Davis - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 18:35 UTC

On 2021-09-06 12:43, Jim_Higgins wrote:
> EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety
> Features
> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/06/eff-urges-apple-abandon-csam-plans/
>
For the iMessage one, what is the big argument against it? I've seen
people say it will be used against LGBTQ+ people in places where it is
illegal to be gay and whatever, but it only sends the message to your
parents if you send the image.

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by: nospam - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 18:41 UTC

In article <sh5n24$43s$1@dont-email.me>, William Davis
<unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:

> For the iMessage one, what is the big argument against it? I've seen
> people say it will be used against LGBTQ+ people in places where it is
> illegal to be gay and whatever, but it only sends the message to your
> parents if you send the image.

it's only for kids under 13 years old, and only if their parents opted
into it, and as you say, only alerts the parents.

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by: William Davis - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:03 UTC

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by: nospam - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 20:26 UTC

In article <sh5s6m$aju$1@dont-email.me>, William Davis
<unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:

> > and as you say, only alerts the parents.
> >
> That would still be an issue if it was automatic

it's not, intentionally so.

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by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:16 UTC

On 2021-09-06, William Davis <unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:
> On 2021-09-06 14:41, nospam wrote:
>> In article <sh5n24$43s$1@dont-email.me>, William Davis
>> <unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:
>> and as you say, only alerts the parents.
>>
> That would still be an issue if it was automatic

It's opt-in.

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by: Joerg Lorenz - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:06 UTC

Am 06.09.21 um 22:03 schrieb William Davis:
> On 2021-09-06 14:41, nospam wrote:
>> In article <sh5n24$43s$1@dont-email.me>, William Davis
>> <unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:
>> and as you say, only alerts the parents.
>>
> That would still be an issue if it was automatic

Social problems cannot be solved with technology. Never.

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by: Joerg Lorenz - Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:12 UTC

Am 06.09.21 um 22:26 schrieb nospam:
> In article <sh5s6m$aju$1@dont-email.me>, William Davis
> <unbeatable101@ctrl-c.club> wrote:
>
>>> and as you say, only alerts the parents.
>>>
>> That would still be an issue if it was automatic
>
> it's not, intentionally so.

It remains in any case Nazi-style surveillance. I would have never done
such Nazi-methods to my four kids.

Something went terribly wrong before the kids are sending pictures with
explicit content. And activating such a backdoor is expressing total
distrust to your own kids.

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One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.

computers / comp.sys.mac.misc / Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety Features

Subject	Author
EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety	Jim_Higgins
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety Feature	nospam
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child	William Davis
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety Feature	nospam
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child	William Davis
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child Safety Feature	nospam
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child	Joerg Lorenz
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child	Jolly Roger
Re: EFF Pressures Apple to Completely Abandon Controversial Child	Joerg Lorenz