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 by: Vincent Coen - Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:28 UTC

Hello All!

Anyone using Mythtv with Mageia v8 etc ?

I have been using it with ubuntu for many years but with the latest LTS of
22.04.1 it will not see video (Intel 200 on mobo) as a HDMI connector only
a digital link which the system does not use.

I would like to move it over to Mga but the only issue is - will it work ?
Although the another is that there is no long time support facility with
MGA and I just hate the problems related to upgrading to the next version
every year or so (and it get worse for every year I age - brain not working
so well now that I am over 75).

One extra question is any one also running mcp (mythbuntu-control-panel
with mga and if so what did you change ?

Vincent

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 by: Bit Twister - Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:15 UTC

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:28:02 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> Anyone using Mythtv with Mageia v8 etc ?
>
>
> I have been using it with ubuntu for many years but with the latest LTS of
> 22.04.1 it will not see video (Intel 200 on mobo) as a HDMI connector only
> a digital link which the system does not use.
>
> I would like to move it over to Mga but the only issue is - will it work ?

Been using MYTHTV for years on Mageia. Running mythbackend on my server.
Usually watching it my Plasma TV via hdmi connection. I also have it setup
for mythfrongend connections from any of my LAN nodes.

Your fist problem will be seen here.
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28289

It is easy enough to use a myth database utility to save all your database
settings and re-load them on a clean install.

I run several SiliconDust network Over-The-Air tuners and pay Schedules Direct
~$25 a year for about 15 days of tv schedules.

> Although the another is that there is no long time support facility with
> MGA and I just hate the problems related to upgrading to the next version
> every year or so (and it get worse for every year I age - brain not working
> so well now that I am over 75).

I hear that. 74 myself.

I always do clean installs, so I resorted to writing install/change scripts
to make the numerous changes. I figured it was easier to learn how to
make the computer work for me instead of the computer working me.

> One extra question is any one also running mcp (mythbuntu-control-panel
> with mga and if so what did you change ?

Never heard of the app or what it does.

I use mythtv-setup for database entry of tuners, storage locations, channel
selection, and whatnot.

Wrote a script to get channels from my tuner, and write sql code to
set desired channels visible or not and change underscore to period in
the display.

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 by: Vincent Coen - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:42 UTC

Hello Bit!

Wednesday February 22 2023 21:15, Bit Twister wrote to All:

> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:28:02 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> Anyone using Mythtv with Mageia v8 etc ?
>>
>>
>> I have been using it with ubuntu for many years but with the latest
>> LTS of 22.04.1 it will not see video (Intel 200 on mobo) as a HDMI
>> connector only a digital link which the system does not use.
>>
>> I would like to move it over to Mga but the only issue is - will it
>> work ?

> Been using MYTHTV for years on Mageia. Running mythbackend on my
> server. Usually watching it my Plasma TV via hdmi connection. I also
> have it setup for mythfrongend connections from any of my LAN nodes.

> Your fist problem will be seen here.
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28289

> It is easy enough to use a myth database utility to save all your
> database settings and re-load them on a clean install.

> I run several SiliconDust network Over-The-Air tuners and pay
> Schedules Direct ~$25 a year for about 15 days of tv schedules.

>> Although the another is that there is no long time support facility
>> with MGA and I just hate the problems related to upgrading to the
>> next version every year or so (and it get worse for every year I age
>> - brain not working so well now that I am over 75).

> I hear that. 74 myself.

> I always do clean installs, so I resorted to writing install/change
> scripts to make the numerous changes. I figured it was easier to learn
> how to make the computer work for me instead of the computer working
> me.

>> One extra question is any one also running mcp
>> (mythbuntu-control-panel with mga and if so what did you change ?

> Never heard of the app or what it does.

mcp was the tool used with mythbuntu and when it was discontinued it was
supported in it's own right - By running it - sets up the extra sources for
mythtv etc for ubuntu to do auto s/w updates whe it does the system.
Also sets up various params and allow you to call myth configuration for
the first time as well as the backend and frontend.

Would need change in the sources to support Redhat types in place of apt
(and .deb) to use rpt etc.

> I use mythtv-setup for database entry of tuners, storage locations,
> channel selection, and whatnot.

> Wrote a script to get channels from my tuner, and write sql code to
> set desired channels visible or not and change underscore to period in
> the display.

Now that is use full it does get annoying to go through the entire new list
of channels marking out the visible's for the rubbish and porn stuff and
setting all BBC channels as non-advertising etc. [ Yes only the BBC is non
advertising ]

Thanks for your thoughts, I will look at installing MGA v8 as a secondary
partition having backed up the current system even if the hardware sound
selection is crap as should not effect new install - he says.

Are you using v9 (cooker) for this or v8 ?

If v9, is it stable enough ?

Thanks,

Vincent

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 by: Bit Twister - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 19:33 UTC

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:42:54 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
> Hello Bit!
>
> Wednesday February 22 2023 21:15, Bit Twister wrote to All:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:28:02 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
> >> Hello All!
> >>
> >> Anyone using Mythtv with Mageia v8 etc ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been using it with ubuntu for many years but with the latest
> >> LTS of 22.04.1 it will not see video (Intel 200 on mobo) as a HDMI
> >> connector only a digital link which the system does not use.
> >>
> >> I would like to move it over to Mga but the only issue is - will it
> >> work ?
>
> > Been using MYTHTV for years on Mageia. Running mythbackend on my
> > server. Usually watching it on my Plasma TV via hdmi connection. I also
> > have it setup for mythfrongend connections from any of my LAN nodes.
>
> > Your fist problem will be seen here.
> > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28289
>
> > It is easy enough to use a myth database utility to save all your
> > database settings and re-load them on a clean install.
>
> > I run several SiliconDust network Over-The-Air tuners and pay
> > Schedules Direct ~$25 a year for about 15 days of tv schedules.
>
> >> Although the another is that there is no long time support facility
> >> with MGA and I just hate the problems related to upgrading to the
> >> next version every year or so (and it get worse for every year I age
> >> - brain not working so well now that I am over 75).
>
> > I hear that. 74 myself.
>
> > I always do clean installs, so I resorted to writing install/change
> > scripts to make the numerous changes. I figured it was easier to learn
> > how to make the computer work for me instead of the computer working
> > me.
>
> >> One extra question is any one also running mcp
> >> (mythbuntu-control-panel with mga and if so what did you change ?
>
> > Never heard of the app or what it does.
>
> mcp was the tool used with mythbuntu and when it was discontinued it was
> supported in it's own right - By running it - sets up the extra sources for
> mythtv etc for ubuntu to do auto s/w updates whe it does the system.
> Also sets up various params and allow you to call myth configuration for
> the first time as well as the backend and frontend.

Ok, mythtv-setup and frontend ask for day one questions for DB access
id/pw. mythtv-setup asks/set where schedule is pulled from.

My pull_install script shuts down/starts backend and mysqld if rpms are to be
updated. Hindsight is wonderful since a mysql update clobbered a running
install.

> Would need change in the sources to support Redhat types in place of apt
> (and .deb) to use rpt etc.
>
>
>
>
> > I use mythtv-setup for database entry of tuners, storage locations,
> > channel selection, and whatnot.
>
> > Wrote a script to get channels from my tuner, and write sql code to
> > set desired channels visible or not and change underscore to period in
> > the display.
>
>
> Now that is useful it does get annoying to go through the entire new list
> of channels marking out the visible's for the rubbish and porn stuff and
> setting all BBC channels as non-advertising etc. [ Yes only the BBC is non
> advertising ]

No idea about non-advertising. I just have to view the channel for awhile
to decide if it is worth making it visible in the schedule.

Sql script is pretty straight forward even if you have to manage it by hand. Snippet
follows:

$ head -17 channel_mtv.sql
use mythconverg ;
UPDATE channel
SET visible=0, useonairguide=0 ;

UPDATE channel
SET channum="4.1", visible=1
WHERE channum="4_1"
OR channum="4.1"
OR channum="4-1" ;

UPDATE channel
SET channum="5.4", visible=1
WHERE channum="5_4"
OR channum="5.4"
OR channum="5-4" ;

Used phpadmin to go spelunking around in the database to find tables and
columns/fields and values.

> Thanks for your thoughts, I will look at installing MGA v8 as a secondary
> partition having backed up the current system even if the hardware sound
> selection is crap as should not effect new install - he says.

Yep, I use three 40 gig partitions and just cycle through them on each release.
That gives me partitions for next, current, previous installs, plus Cauldron.
I also have a hotbu partition for backing up the current "Production" install.

myth storage is on a separate partition. Install script adds links to storage
directories.

$ ls -l /var/lib/mythtv/
total 20K
drwxr-xr-x 3 mythtv mythtv 4.0K Dec 25 03:56 .
drwxr-xr-x 65 root root 4.0K Feb 23 04:16 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 3rdParty -> /myth/3rdParty
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 45 Apr 9 2021 Antenna.xmltv -> var/lib/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_zz_sdjson.conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 13 Apr 9 2021 Banners -> /myth/Banners
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 10 Apr 9 2021 bkup -> /myth/bkup
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 11 Apr 9 2021 cache -> /myth/cache
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 channels -> /myth/channels
-rw------- 1 mythtv mythtv 619 Dec 25 03:56 config.xml
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 Coverart -> /myth/Coverart
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 12 Apr 9 2021 Fanart -> /myth/Fanart
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 12 Apr 9 2021 LiveTV -> /myth/LiveTV
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 11 Apr 9 2021 Music -> /myth/Music
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 MusicArt -> /myth/MusicArt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 17 Apr 9 2021 MythBrowser -> /myth/MythBrowser
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 17 Apr 9 2021 Photographs -> /myth/Photographs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 16 Apr 9 2021 recordings -> /myth/recordings
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 17 Apr 9 2021 Screenshots -> /myth/Screenshots
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 11 Apr 9 2021 Shows -> /myth/Shows
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 12 Apr 9 2021 themes -> /myth/themes
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 9 Apr 9 2021 tmp -> /myth/tmp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 Trailers -> /myth/Trailers
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 10 Apr 10 2021 Videos -> /misc/mpeg
drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4.0K Jun 27 2021 .xmltv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 133 Apr 9 2021 .xmltv.TMP
[root@mtv ~]#

> Are you using v9 (cooker) for this or v8 ?

Current DB is mga8. I am in the process of modifying all scripts to conform
to bash coding standards pointed out by shellcheck. Once completed I will
run through testing them on mga9. Primary "Production" mode is mga9.

> If v9, is it stable enough ?

Well there have been lots of updates. Running Xfce as my Desktop Environment.
Now that mga9 is frozen there will not be as much rpm churn.

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 by: Vincent Coen - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:24 UTC

Hello Bit!

Thursday February 23 2023 19:33, Bit Twister wrote to All:

>> > I always do clean installs, so I resorted to writing
>> install/change scripts to make the numerous changes. I figured it was
>> easier to learn how to make the computer work for me instead of the
>> computer working me.

> Ok, mythtv-setup and frontend ask for day one questions for DB access
> id/pw. mythtv-setup asks/set where schedule is pulled from.
> My pull_install script shuts down/starts backend and mysqld if rpms
> are to be updated. Hindsight is wonderful since a mysql update
> clobbered a running install.

>> Would need change in the sources to support Redhat types in place of
>> apt (and .deb) to use rpt etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> > I use mythtv-setup for database entry of tuners, storage
>> locations, channel selection, and whatnot.
>>
>> > Wrote a script to get channels from my tuner, and write sql code
>> to
>> > set desired channels visible or not and change underscore to
>> period in the display.
>>

> Sql script is pretty straight forward even if you have to manage it by
> hand. Snippet
> follows:

> $ head -17 channel_mtv.sql
> use mythconverg ;
> UPDATE channel
> SET visible=0, useonairguide=0 ;

> UPDATE channel
> SET channum="4.1", visible=1
> WHERE channum="4_1"
> OR channum="4.1"
> OR channum="4-1" ;

> UPDATE channel
> SET channum="5.4", visible=1
> WHERE channum="5_4"
> OR channum="5.4"
> OR channum="5-4" ;

That looks like a good idea is there any chance of getting your scripts
that supports mythtv and build, updates etc ?

I notice that the packages in MGA uses mythtv v31 and I am currently
running v33 under ubuntu along with MySQL.

However, I am worried about using mariadb as I have had a number of issues
with it as it differs a lot in the mysql tables compared to MySQL as well
as requirements regarding passwords etc.

I did try and uninstall mariadb and install MySQL instead but found that
there are many other packages that insist on mariadb.

In many of these cases I cannot see any reason for it as there is no reason
for them to use it and looking at databases installed and running I can
only see the one that I set up for my own developed application which is a
full accounting system.

This I find very annoying to put it mildly as every distro build that uses
myth does use MySQL s0 have to assume that there is a good reason and I
cannot find one good reason for not using MySQL over mariadb and yes that
includes personal use as against commercial usage as both have the same
rules, i.e., personal is free to use but commercial is subject to a license
fee of one type or another depending on the level of support one wants from
the vendor.

Do you know of a way to swap out mariadb for MySQL that will not break
these other packages other than removing them ?

> Yep, I use three 40 gig partitions and just cycle through them on each
> release. That gives me partitions for next, current, previous
> installs, plus Cauldron. I also have a hotbu partition for backing up
> the current "Production" install.

> myth storage is on a separate partition. Install script adds links to
> storage directories.

I am going to 'asssume' that the mga install will allow me to repartition
the M.2 SSD into say 60Gb partitions so I can create three extras with one
for v8 and a reserve for v9 as and when it comes out but with a copy of v8
and one spare for testing maybe with a pre copy of v8.

> $ ls -l /var/lib/mythtv/ total 20K
> drwxr-xr-x 3 mythtv mythtv 4.0K Dec 25 03:56 .
> drwxr-xr-x 65 root root 4.0K Feb 23 04:16 ..
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 3rdParty ->
> /myth/3rdParty lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 45 Apr 9 2021
> Antenna.xmltv ->
> var/lib/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_zz_sdjson.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv
> mythtv 13 Apr 9 2021 Banners -> /myth/Banners lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv
> mythtv 10 Apr 9 2021 bkup -> /myth/bkup lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv
> mythtv 11 Apr 9 2021 cache -> /myth/cache lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv
> mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021 channels -> /myth/channels -rw------- 1
> mythtv mythtv 619 Dec 25 03:56 config.xml lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv
> 14 Apr 9 2021 Coverart -> /myth/Coverart lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv
> 12 Apr 9 2021 Fanart -> /myth/Fanart lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv
> 12 Apr 9 2021 LiveTV -> /myth/LiveTV lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv
> 11 Apr 9 2021 Music -> /myth/Music lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14
> Apr 9 2021 MusicArt -> /myth/MusicArt lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv
> 17 Apr 9 2021 MythBrowser -> /myth/MythBrowser lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv
> mythtv 17 Apr 9 2021 Photographs -> /myth/Photographs lrwxrwxrwx
> 1 mythtv mythtv 16 Apr 9 2021 recordings ->
> /myth/recordings lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 17 Apr 9 2021
> Screenshots -> /myth/Screenshots lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 11 Apr
> 9 2021 Shows -> /myth/Shows lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 12 Apr 9
> 2021 themes -> /myth/themes lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 9 Apr 9
> 2021 tmp -> /myth/tmp lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 14 Apr 9 2021
> Trailers -> /myth/Trailers lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 10 Apr 10
> 2021 Videos -> /misc/mpeg drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4.0K Jun 27
> 2021 .xmltv -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 133 Apr 9 2021
> .xmltv.TMP [root@mtv ~]#

Here I have two HDD's as sda and b with sda as storage of mythtv recordings
and videos (and all the other required directories.
sdb for me and setting up etc, such as my TV tuner and the required v4l
driver / kernel modules, although this includes all of the v4l
contributions and this comes from the TBS website.

I do have to install all the kernel headers at the same time as the kernel
and on the basis that updates to the kernel adds in the new headers etc.

This way I just recompile the v4l modules with a make yesallconfig (or
allyesconfig) to rebuild it for all installed kernels. Then run a sudo
make install to insert them into
/usr/lib/modules/[kernel-version]-generic/updates/extra

Well that's the I have done it since ubuntu 14.04 without issues but with
the latest 22.04.1 the sound configuration does not find any options for
HDMI and I am fairly sure this happens after I install the v4l stuff as I
am reasonably positive that before I installed them I did have HDMI
options.

>> Are you using v9 (cooker) for this or v8 ?

> Current DB is mga8. I am in the process of modifying all scripts to
> conform to bash coding standards pointed out by shellcheck. Once
> completed I will run through testing them on mga9. Primary
> "Production" mode is mga9.

>> If v9, is it stable enough ?

> Well there have been lots of updates. Running Xfce as my Desktop
> Environment. Now that mga9 is frozen there will not be as much rpm
> churn.

I will keep fully clear of v9 for the moment as I tend not to do a system
update until it has been out for 3 - 6 months to minimise the bugs.

Habit of many, many years go back to mainframe updates where all had to be
fully tested before and I am now way past that sell by date :(

I have downloaded mga v8 so just have to find a working solution to
creating a USB stick for it to use for install.
Seams to be a restricted list of what will work but have grabbed ISOdumper
to try ?

I will send a email to you using my primary address if you can provide the
scripts etc as gmail is a bit restrictive in attachment sizes.

Vincent

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:24:47 +0000, Vincent Coen wrote:
> Hello Bit!
>
> Thursday February 23 2023 19:33, Bit Twister wrote to All:
>
> >> > I always do clean installs, so I resorted to writing
> >> install/change scripts to make the numerous changes. I figured it was
> >> easier to learn how to make the computer work for me instead of the
> >> computer working me.
>
>
> > Ok, mythtv-setup and frontend ask for day one questions for DB access
> > id/pw. mythtv-setup asks/set where schedule is pulled from.
> > My pull_install script shuts down/starts backend and mysqld if rpms
> > are to be updated. Hindsight is wonderful since a mysql update
> > clobbered a running install.
>
> >> Would need change in the sources to support Redhat types in place of
> >> apt (and .deb) to use rpt etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I use mythtv-setup for database entry of tuners, storage
> >> locations, channel selection, and whatnot.
> >>
> >> > Wrote a script to get channels from my tuner, and write sql code
> >> to
> >> > set desired channels visible or not and change underscore to
> >> period in the display.
> >>
>
> > Sql script is pretty straight forward even if you have to manage it by
> > hand. Snippet
> > follows:
>
> > $ head -17 channel_mtv.sql
> > use mythconverg ;
> > UPDATE channel
> > SET visible=0, useonairguide=0 ;
>
>
> > UPDATE channel
> > SET channum="4.1", visible=1
> > WHERE channum="4_1"
> > OR channum="4.1"
> > OR channum="4-1" ;
>
> > UPDATE channel
> > SET channum="5.4", visible=1
> > WHERE channum="5_4"
> > OR channum="5.4"
> > OR channum="5-4" ;
>
> That looks like a good idea is there any chance of getting your scripts
> that supports mythtv and build, updates etc ?

It is possible, but scripts are not standalone, but depend on a lot of
common includes files/scripts and whatnot.

Also scripts are not very elegant and a bit of a kludge that I am a bit
embarrass for anyone to see them.

I suggest you would be better off designing your own setup then do the
coding yourself. I did not do the basic design phase, but just jumped into
coding which results in a hodgepodge of code.

I think I would be more helpful with suggestions and some coding
examples rather than trying to get you up and running with my kludges.

It does not take long to have a big mess.
$ cd /local/bin
$ ls -1 *install* |wc -l
63
# ls -1 *change* |wc -l
208

> I notice that the packages in MGA uses mythtv v31 and I am currently
> running v33 under ubuntu along with MySQL.

Yeah, no idea if you could export the v33 and import into a v31 release.
Mga9 is v33.

> However, I am worried about using mariadb as I have had a number of issues
> with it as it differs a lot in the mysql tables compared to MySQL as well
> as requirements regarding passwords etc.

Password fix is easily done in /usr/share/mythtv/initialdb/mc.sql
here are the two lines to change.

CREATE OR REPLACE USER "mythtv"@"localhost" IDENTIFIED by "new_pw_here";
ALTER USER "mythtv"@"localhost" IDENTIFIED BY "new_pw_here";

and modify all /.mythtv/config.xml files with new_pw

>
> Do you know of a way to swap out mariadb for MySQL that will not break
> these other packages other than removing them ?

Nope, I find it easier to not fight change. Just adapt and stress level
goes way down.

> I am going to 'asssume' that the mga install will allow me to repartition
> the M.2 SSD into say 60Gb

60Gb seems a waste of space to me. I load all Mageia package groups and
a bunch of add ons and games.
$ grep urpm install_addons | wc -l
154
$ grep urpm install_toys | wc -l
65

$ lsblk -o NAME,TYPE,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,SIZE,FSAVAIL,FSUSED,LABEL,PARTLABEL /dev/sda3
NAME TYPE FSTYPE MOUNTPOINT SIZE FSAVAIL FSUSED LABEL PARTLABEL
sda3 part ext4 / 40G 19.1G 18G cauldron cauldron

Do not forget to run tune2fs to change amount of reserve storage.
I usually set os partitions at 1 percent. I also have a daily cron job
to warn me when a partition hits 90%+ full.

> partitions so I can create three extras with one
> for v8 and a reserve for v9 as and when it comes out but with a copy of v8
> and one spare for testing maybe with a pre copy of v8.

I find the Mga partition manager a bit of a hassle. I keep a copy of
the system rescue cd iso so I can boot it and run gparted to pre
create/format/label all need/wanted partitions. Yes I know I can install
gparted and use it, but that is not useful if I lose the install partition/disc.

https://www.system-rescue.org/

my change_fstab script changes all entries into LABEL=whatever and
my grub scripts creates menu entries with LABEL names for easy identification.

>
> I will keep fully clear of v9 for the moment as I tend not to do a system
> update until it has been out for 3 - 6 months to minimise the bugs.

> Habit of many, many years go back to mainframe updates where all had to be
> fully tested before and I am now way past that sell by date :(

I understand your view point, but the Mageia crew has done an outstanding job
so far and I have had no problems going with the Official release as soon as
it is released. Mainly because I usually start running Alpha to find any
changes needed for my install/change scripts.

>
> I will send a email to you using my primary address if you can provide the
> scripts etc as gmail is a bit restrictive in attachment sizes.

You will need to get/use my Mageia email address. If you were to do a
ping -4c1 mouse-potato.com
and checked the ip address you might notice it is not a good email address
to contact me.

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 by: Vincent Coen - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:32 UTC

Hello !

Are you running mythtv v31 from the distro or have you downloaded and
compiled v32 or 33.1 ?

If you have built a later version did you have any issues with getting the
correct dependencies (packages) from the repos ?

Before my broken update of ubuntu caused by myth having a failed driver on
reboot having upgraded 20.04 to 22.04.1 then upgrading myth from v31 to 33
I reinstalled from scratch 22.04 only to find a big issue with getting
sound as there was no driver options with HDMI.

This means that I do have a back up of the v31 DB and a copy for v33 but
with no data of v31.

All this means that my old recordings (not videos as they are all good)
can only be seen as files starting with the date references and no title.

Do you know of a way that I can -
recreate these to say title and where applicable for series of same title
say SnnEnn etc OR

On new recordings to save as similar instead of the cryptic file names.

I have not found any setting that allows this but as you are an expert with
scripts etc you might know a way - OK living in hope as there are 600
episodes since 2018 that may well not have been watched but that said just
how many hours do I watch the TV per night ? :)

Regards,

Vincent

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