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* Toad-2 newsDave Dyer
`* Re: Toad-2 newsLars Brinkhoff
 `* Re: Toad-2 newsStephen M. Jones
  +- Re: Toad-2 newsDave Dyer
  `- Re: Toad-2 newsAdam Sampson

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Subject: Toad-2 news
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 by: Dave Dyer - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:18 UTC

This morning I got a surprise email, saying that my account had been migrated to the new toad-2 at sdf.org. I succeeded in logging in, but never was much of a twenex user. I don't remember the syntax for running games, and the help file doesn't list it.

anyway, http://www.twenex.org/ is at least partially functional, you can definitely run systat. I'd love to give advenure or zork a spin if someone
can reveal the right command line.

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 by: Lars Brinkhoff - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 06:31 UTC

> I don't remember the syntax for running games, and the help file
> doesn't list it.

They are in <GAMES>. Adventure seems to work:

[KANKAN] PUBLIC:<~>@ <GAMES>ADVENT
This is "Version II" of Adventure. Top score is now 430 points.
Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?

But ZORK complains that SYS:ZORK.SAV is missing.

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From: smj...@ma.sdf.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Toad-2 news
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 by: Stephen M. Jones - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 04:31 UTC

Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> wrote:
>> I don't remember the syntax for running games, and the help file
>> doesn't list it.
>
> They are in <GAMES>. Adventure seems to work:
>
> [KANKAN] PUBLIC:<~>@ <GAMES>ADVENT
> This is "Version II" of Adventure. Top score is now 430 points.
> Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?
>
> But ZORK complains that SYS:ZORK.SAV is missing.

ZORK needed MDL as well as the SAV file copied over from Panda. There
are also a few others games such as HAUNT, VTTREK, MANHUNT, CAVE and
the ITS BYE / fortune lins stuff which are now available. 'HELP GAMES' for
updates. There are a number of GIGI games and displays if anyone is
interested as well as a decent PACMAN that was a big hit. I'm collecting
score files from various sites thinking it would be fun to combine them into
one big leader board.

(PACMAN was popular on a DEC-20 named VERA. You remember VERA, doncha kid?)

BBOARD is also migrated including a read only archive of the ANIME and
URUSEI-YATSURA mailing lists.

With the buzz around WORDL Ralph remembered a more challenging word game
called JOTTO (Mike Beeler). There is a possibility that it could be
made available soon.

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Subject: Re: Toad-2 news
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 by: Dave Dyer - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 03:48 UTC

> With the buzz around WORDL Ralph remembered a more challenging word game
> called JOTTO (Mike Beeler). There is a possibility that it could be
> made available soon.

Just as I was thinking - I wrote a PDP10 version of Jotto in (about) 1975 and it might be revivable.

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 by: Adam Sampson - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 17:55 UTC

"Stephen M. Jones" <smj@ma.sdf.org> writes:

> With the buzz around WORDL Ralph remembered a more challenging word
> game called JOTTO (Mike Beeler). There is a possibility that it could
> be made available soon.

MIT's 1969-ish version of JOTTO was ported to SAIL with minor
modifications for I/O. The source and dictionary file are here:
https://www.saildart.org/JOTTO[CSP,SYS]
https://www.saildart.org/JOTTO.DIC[CSP,SYS]

An ITS binary survived, so we were able to reconstruct the MIDAS source
based on the SAIL copy in 2018:
https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/games/jotto.101
https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/games/jotto.dict

The I/O code is pretty simple, so it should be easy enough to port to
other PDP-10 OSs.

Michael Beeler's AIM-218 memo describes how it works:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ai/aim/AIM-218.pdf

Cheers,

--
Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> <http://offog.org/>

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