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* Kaffeine 2.0.18pinnerite
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 by: pinnerite - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:44 UTC

When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.

These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:

[00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
[00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
[00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output

Any idea how to fix this?

TIA, Alan
--
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 by: Big Al - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:57 UTC

On 3/18/23 17:44, this is what pinnerite wrote:
> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>
> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>
> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
> TIA, Alan
You're upgrading and some things don't work huh?

--
Al

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 by: Big Al - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 22:01 UTC

On 3/18/23 17:57, this is what Big Al wrote:
> On 3/18/23 17:44, this is what pinnerite wrote:
>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>>
>> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>>
>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>
>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>
>> TIA,  Alan
> You're upgrading and some things don't work huh?
>
What version of Linux are you running? I try to stay away from KDE programs with Cinnamon but I do have some and most
of the background KDE is here.
--
Al

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 by: Sjouke Burry - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 23:42 UTC

On 18.03.23 22:44, pinnerite wrote:
> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>
> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>
> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
> TIA, Alan
>
Add milk and sugar, then mix gently.

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 by: Paul - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 00:35 UTC

On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>
> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>
> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
> TIA, Alan
>

Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.

That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.

https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18

"Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:

--no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx

or:

--no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv

and re-start Kaffeine."

Just a wild guess.

It seems to be endless fun.

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434

Paul

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 by: pinnerite - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:18 UTC

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:01:45 -0400
Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 3/18/23 17:57, this is what Big Al wrote:
> > On 3/18/23 17:44, this is what pinnerite wrote:
> >> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> >>
> >> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> >>
> >> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> >> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> >> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >>
> >> Any idea how to fix this?
> >>
> >> TIA,  Alan
> > You're upgrading and some things don't work huh?
> >
> What version of Linux are you running? I try to stay away from KDE programs with Cinnamon but I do have some and most
> of the background KDE is here.
> --
> Al
>

At the moment Mint 20.3 but the problem posted was on Mint 21.1.

As for staying away from KDFE programs, Kaffeine has always been my
backstop for TV viewing until I could get Mythtv to work.

Alan

--
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running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 16GB of
DRAM.

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 by: Big Al - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 18:17 UTC

On 3/19/23 13:18, this is what pinnerite wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:01:45 -0400
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/18/23 17:57, this is what Big Al wrote:
>>> On 3/18/23 17:44, this is what pinnerite wrote:
>>>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>>>>
>>>> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>>>>
>>>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
>>>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
>>>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>>>
>>>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> TIA,  Alan
>>> You're upgrading and some things don't work huh?
>>>
>> What version of Linux are you running? I try to stay away from KDE programs with Cinnamon but I do have some and most
>> of the background KDE is here.
>> --
>> Al
>>
>
> At the moment Mint 20.3 but the problem posted was on Mint 21.1.
>
> As for staying away from KDFE programs, Kaffeine has always been my
> backstop for TV viewing until I could get Mythtv to work.
>
> Alan
>
>
If I had a brain, I'd look at your signature. Duh!
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 by: pinnerite - Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:00 UTC

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:35:37 -0400
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> > When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> >
> > These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> >
> > [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> > [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> > [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >
> > Any idea how to fix this?
> >
> > TIA, Alan
> >
>
> Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.
>
> That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.
>
> https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18
>
> "Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:
>
> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx
>
> or:
>
> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv
>
> and re-start Kaffeine."
>
> Just a wild guess.
>
> It seems to be endless fun.
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434
>
> Paul

No, none of the options worked.
I completely uninstalled and then reinstalled from the command line.
I then ran from the command line.
This is the result:

alan@albury:~$ /usr/bin/kaffeine
22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h"
22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all"
22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v"
22-03-23 22:54:06.030 [Info ] kaffeine.dvb: Using built-in dvb device manager
22-03-23 22:54:06.392 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
22-03-23 22:54:06.544 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
[00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
libva info: VA-API version 1.14.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
[00007f66e8004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
[00007f66f001ae80] main video output error: video output creation failed
[00007f66fc037960] main decoder error: failed to create video output
[00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
[00007f66fc037960] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
alan@albury:~$

Different error messages but the segmentation fault bothers me most.
I don'y know what to make of it.

Alan

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 by: Paul - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 03:37 UTC

On 3/22/2023 7:00 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:35:37 -0400
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
>>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>>>
>>> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>>>
>>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
>>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
>>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>>
>>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>>
>>> TIA, Alan
>>>
>>
>> Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.
>>
>> That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.
>>
>> https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18
>>
>> "Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:
>>
>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx
>>
>> or:
>>
>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv
>>
>> and re-start Kaffeine."
>>
>> Just a wild guess.
>>
>> It seems to be endless fun.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434
>>
>> Paul
>
> No, none of the options worked.
> I completely uninstalled and then reinstalled from the command line.
> I then ran from the command line.
> This is the result:
>
> alan@albury:~$ /usr/bin/kaffeine
> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h"
> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all"
> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v"
> 22-03-23 22:54:06.030 [Info ] kaffeine.dvb: Using built-in dvb device manager
> 22-03-23 22:54:06.392 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> 22-03-23 22:54:06.544 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> libva info: VA-API version 1.14.0
> libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.so
> libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
> libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
> [00007f66e8004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> [00007f66f001ae80] main video output error: video output creation failed
> [00007f66fc037960] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> [00007f66fc037960] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> alan@albury:~$
>
> Different error messages but the segmentation fault bothers me most.
> I don'y know what to make of it.
>
> Alan
>

You know your graphics card is crusty ("old").

libplacebo seems to have gathered some hardware
acceleration features for video, in one place. That's
probably why it is calling libva in the usual way.

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libplacebo/

What's interesting, in your log, is the exact same line appears twice.

[00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)

On the second occasion, it attempts to open a second library,
it gets some bogus information, that "yes, this hardware
accelerator is ready for action". It dives in feet first,
there is no working accelerator there and... segfault.

While it could be a coding error in libplacebo, my best guess is,
this is somehow related to the driver for your video card and
its video decoder, and the delivery of wrong status to layers
above it.

What is a "G3DVL VDPAU" ?

I have no idea :-)

*******

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration

"2.6 Verifying VDPAU

Install vdpauinfo to verify if the VDPAU driver is loaded correctly
and retrieve a full report of the configuration:
"

Work through that web page, use knowledge of your video card make
and model number, and do a characterization of your hardware.

Do any of the "info" utilities crash hard ?

Paul

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 by: pinnerite - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:35 UTC

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:37:19 -0400
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/22/2023 7:00 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:35:37 -0400
> > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> >>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> >>>
> >>> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> >>>
> >>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> >>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> >>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >>>
> >>> Any idea how to fix this?
> >>>
> >>> TIA, Alan
> >>>
> >>
> >> Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.
> >>
> >> That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.
> >>
> >> https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18
> >>
> >> "Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:
> >>
> >> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx
> >>
> >> or:
> >>
> >> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv
> >>
> >> and re-start Kaffeine."
> >>
> >> Just a wild guess.
> >>
> >> It seems to be endless fun.
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434
> >>
> >> Paul
> >
> > No, none of the options worked.
> > I completely uninstalled and then reinstalled from the command line.
> > I then ran from the command line.
> > This is the result:
> >
> > alan@albury:~$ /usr/bin/kaffeine
> > 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h"
> > 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all"
> > 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v"
> > 22-03-23 22:54:06.030 [Info ] kaffeine.dvb: Using built-in dvb device manager
> > 22-03-23 22:54:06.392 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> > 22-03-23 22:54:06.544 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> > [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> > libva info: VA-API version 1.14.0
> > libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.so
> > libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
> > libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
> > [00007f66e8004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> > [00007f66f001ae80] main video output error: video output creation failed
> > [00007f66fc037960] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> > [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> > [00007f66fc037960] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > alan@albury:~$
> >
> > Different error messages but the segmentation fault bothers me most.
> > I don'y know what to make of it.
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> You know your graphics card is crusty ("old").
>
> libplacebo seems to have gathered some hardware
> acceleration features for video, in one place. That's
> probably why it is calling libva in the usual way.
>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libplacebo/
>
> What's interesting, in your log, is the exact same line appears twice.
>
> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
>
> On the second occasion, it attempts to open a second library,
> it gets some bogus information, that "yes, this hardware
> accelerator is ready for action". It dives in feet first,
> there is no working accelerator there and... segfault.
>
> While it could be a coding error in libplacebo, my best guess is,
> this is somehow related to the driver for your video card and
> its video decoder, and the delivery of wrong status to layers
> above it.
>
> What is a "G3DVL VDPAU" ?
>
> I have no idea :-)
>
> *******
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration
>
> "2.6 Verifying VDPAU
>
> Install vdpauinfo to verify if the VDPAU driver is loaded correctly
> and retrieve a full report of the configuration:
> "
>
> Work through that web page, use knowledge of your video card make
> and model number, and do a characterization of your hardware.
>
> Do any of the "info" utilities crash hard ?
>
> Paul
>
>
>

You are definitely helping but still some way to go.

Firstly, my hardware is indeed fairly old although faiing bits have
been replaced from time to time and the memory quadrupled. The graphic
drivers are Radeon HD-4350/4550.

I have had no trouble with Mint upgrades since switching from Mageia
five years ago.

The following files were installed on both 20.3 and 21.1:

libva-drm2
libva-glx2
libva-wayland2
libva-x11-2
libva2
libvamp-hostsdk3v5
libvariable-magic-perl

I read through the link that you kindly provided.
It looke to me that the most appropriate driver file for my graphic
cards is: libva-mesa-driver 23.0.0-3

Now both kaffeine and vlc share common software, so i troed to get vlc
to play some tv recordings. It crashed after a gew seconds of audio. I
went ino its settings and was able to turn of accelerated hardware.
The result was that it worked perfectly.

So back to kaffeine. I could not find a way to do the same!

I don't think it is a graphics problem at all.

Regards, Alan

--
Mint 21.1, kernel 5.15.0-67-generic, Cinnamon 5.6.7
running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 16GB of
DRAM.

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On 3/23/2023 6:35 AM, pinnerite wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:37:19 -0400
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 3/22/2023 7:00 PM, pinnerite wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:35:37 -0400
>>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
>>>>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>>>>>
>>>>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
>>>>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
>>>>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA, Alan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.
>>>>
>>>> That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.
>>>>
>>>> https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18
>>>>
>>>> "Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:
>>>>
>>>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx
>>>>
>>>> or:
>>>>
>>>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv
>>>>
>>>> and re-start Kaffeine."
>>>>
>>>> Just a wild guess.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to be endless fun.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> No, none of the options worked.
>>> I completely uninstalled and then reinstalled from the command line.
>>> I then ran from the command line.
>>> This is the result:
>>>
>>> alan@albury:~$ /usr/bin/kaffeine
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h"
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all"
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v"
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.030 [Info ] kaffeine.dvb: Using built-in dvb device manager
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.392 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
>>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.544 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
>>> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
>>> libva info: VA-API version 1.14.0
>>> libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.so
>>> libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
>>> libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
>>> [00007f66e8004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
>>> [00007f66f001ae80] main video output error: video output creation failed
>>> [00007f66fc037960] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
>>> [00007f66fc037960] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
>>> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>>> alan@albury:~$
>>>
>>> Different error messages but the segmentation fault bothers me most.
>>> I don'y know what to make of it.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>
>> You know your graphics card is crusty ("old").
>>
>> libplacebo seems to have gathered some hardware
>> acceleration features for video, in one place. That's
>> probably why it is calling libva in the usual way.
>>
>> https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libplacebo/
>>
>> What's interesting, in your log, is the exact same line appears twice.
>>
>> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
>>
>> On the second occasion, it attempts to open a second library,
>> it gets some bogus information, that "yes, this hardware
>> accelerator is ready for action". It dives in feet first,
>> there is no working accelerator there and... segfault.
>>
>> While it could be a coding error in libplacebo, my best guess is,
>> this is somehow related to the driver for your video card and
>> its video decoder, and the delivery of wrong status to layers
>> above it.
>>
>> What is a "G3DVL VDPAU" ?
>>
>> I have no idea :-)
>>
>> *******
>>
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration
>>
>> "2.6 Verifying VDPAU
>>
>> Install vdpauinfo to verify if the VDPAU driver is loaded correctly
>> and retrieve a full report of the configuration:
>> "
>>
>> Work through that web page, use knowledge of your video card make
>> and model number, and do a characterization of your hardware.
>>
>> Do any of the "info" utilities crash hard ?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are definitely helping but still some way to go.
>
> Firstly, my hardware is indeed fairly old although faiing bits have
> been replaced from time to time and the memory quadrupled. The graphic
> drivers are Radeon HD-4350/4550.
>
> I have had no trouble with Mint upgrades since switching from Mageia
> five years ago.
>
> The following files were installed on both 20.3 and 21.1:
>
> libva-drm2
> libva-glx2
> libva-wayland2
> libva-x11-2
> libva2
> libvamp-hostsdk3v5
> libvariable-magic-perl
>
> I read through the link that you kindly provided.
> It looke to me that the most appropriate driver file for my graphic
> cards is: libva-mesa-driver 23.0.0-3
>
> Now both kaffeine and vlc share common software, so i troed to get vlc
> to play some tv recordings. It crashed after a gew seconds of audio. I
> went ino its settings and was able to turn of accelerated hardware.
> The result was that it worked perfectly.
>
> So back to kaffeine. I could not find a way to do the same!
>
> I don't think it is a graphics problem at all.
>
> Regards, Alan

Video cards have hardware decoders.

Some of those, use hardly any CPU at all. It is practically
a matter of shoving MPEG2 packets towards it, and it
returns frame buffers of movie in return. The CPU usage
could drop to 1% while this is happening.

Since your video card is AMD/ATI then VDPAU is an NVidia technology
as far as I know. And calls to that should just be saying
"Sorry, this machine has no NVidia hardware" or the equivalent.

And this is Linux, where hardware binding happens during startup,
and no NVidia chain of events should be possible. In Windows, drivers
can stay loaded if the user does not clean up the drivers, and years
and years ago, this led to problems. The drivers today are a bit more
intelligent, and they know there is no NVidia card any more when you
unplug it.

My original post mentions "xcb_glx" and "xcb_xv" and passing those
to libvlc is suppose to play some part in configuring hardware acceleration
(or not) for Kaffeine.

Some video playback crashes, because of some sort of crypto applied
by the recording part. A second reason, is TV recordings have multiple
audio and video tracks, and sometimes the playback application needs
"help" in the form of the user specifying which exact audio track
and which exact video track they want played.

I don't know the answer, in terms of an exact recipe to fix stuff,
but the "smell of hardware acceleration horrors" fills the air :-)
I've had video cards here that were more trouble than they were
worth, for stuff like this.

And the sad part is, in terms of buying new, they make it damn hard
to just get a good video card for accelerated playback. One cheap
card for example, the geniuses *removed* the video decoder block entirely.
Which for low end cards, is at least half the "value" to the customer,
is that block. I would have to spend $200 to $250 if I wanted a
video decoder in hardware today. That's probably more expensive
than a Mason card playing MPEG video, decades ago (that was a card
that did nothing but decode video and it had no frame buffer as
near as I can remember).

The video card companies provide charts for video decoding. A 1660
might not be a bad choice, but those are probably just going out of
production.


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 by: pinnerite - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:20 UTC

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:26:02 -0400
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/23/2023 6:35 AM, pinnerite wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:37:19 -0400
> > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/22/2023 7:00 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:35:37 -0400
> >>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/18/2023 5:44 PM, pinnerite wrote:
> >>>>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> >>>>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> >>>>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any idea how to fix this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TIA, Alan
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kaffeine is a media player, according to the arch page.
> >>>>
> >>>> That means, a "disable hardware acceleration" might be needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kaffeine/-/tree/v2.0.18
> >>>>
> >>>> "Settings --> Configure Kaffeine --> libVLC, changing the libVLC arguments to:
> >>>>
> >>>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_glx
> >>>>
> >>>> or:
> >>>>
> >>>> --no-video-title-show -V xcb_xv
> >>>>
> >>>> and re-start Kaffeine."
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a wild guess.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems to be endless fun.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140434
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> No, none of the options worked.
> >>> I completely uninstalled and then reinstalled from the command line.
> >>> I then ran from the command line.
> >>> This is the result:
> >>>
> >>> alan@albury:~$ /usr/bin/kaffeine
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h"
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all"
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:05.772 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v"
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.030 [Info ] kaffeine.dvb: Using built-in dvb device manager
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.392 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> >>> 22-03-23 22:54:06.544 [Info ] kaffeine.dev: Found dvb device U07f826de: DiBcom 3000MC/P
> >>> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> >>> libva info: VA-API version 1.14.0
> >>> libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.so
> >>> libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
> >>> libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
> >>> [00007f66e8004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> >>> [00007f66f001ae80] main video output error: video output creation failed
> >>> [00007f66fc037960] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >>> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> >>> [00007f66fc037960] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
> >>> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> >>> alan@albury:~$
> >>>
> >>> Different error messages but the segmentation fault bothers me most.
> >>> I don'y know what to make of it.
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>
> >> You know your graphics card is crusty ("old").
> >>
> >> libplacebo seems to have gathered some hardware
> >> acceleration features for video, in one place. That's
> >> probably why it is calling libva in the usual way.
> >>
> >> https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libplacebo/
> >>
> >> What's interesting, in your log, is the exact same line appears twice.
> >>
> >> [00007f66e8004e90] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v4.192.1 (API v192)
> >>
> >> On the second occasion, it attempts to open a second library,
> >> it gets some bogus information, that "yes, this hardware
> >> accelerator is ready for action". It dives in feet first,
> >> there is no working accelerator there and... segfault.
> >>
> >> While it could be a coding error in libplacebo, my best guess is,
> >> this is somehow related to the driver for your video card and
> >> its video decoder, and the delivery of wrong status to layers
> >> above it.
> >>
> >> What is a "G3DVL VDPAU" ?
> >>
> >> I have no idea :-)
> >>
> >> *******
> >>
> >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration
> >>
> >> "2.6 Verifying VDPAU
> >>
> >> Install vdpauinfo to verify if the VDPAU driver is loaded correctly
> >> and retrieve a full report of the configuration:
> >> "
> >>
> >> Work through that web page, use knowledge of your video card make
> >> and model number, and do a characterization of your hardware.
> >>
> >> Do any of the "info" utilities crash hard ?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > You are definitely helping but still some way to go.
> >
> > Firstly, my hardware is indeed fairly old although faiing bits have
> > been replaced from time to time and the memory quadrupled. The graphic
> > drivers are Radeon HD-4350/4550.
> >
> > I have had no trouble with Mint upgrades since switching from Mageia
> > five years ago.
> >
> > The following files were installed on both 20.3 and 21.1:
> >
> > libva-drm2
> > libva-glx2
> > libva-wayland2
> > libva-x11-2
> > libva2
> > libvamp-hostsdk3v5
> > libvariable-magic-perl
> >
> > I read through the link that you kindly provided.
> > It looke to me that the most appropriate driver file for my graphic
> > cards is: libva-mesa-driver 23.0.0-3
> >
> > Now both kaffeine and vlc share common software, so i troed to get vlc
> > to play some tv recordings. It crashed after a gew seconds of audio. I
> > went ino its settings and was able to turn of accelerated hardware.
> > The result was that it worked perfectly.
> >
> > So back to kaffeine. I could not find a way to do the same!
> >
> > I don't think it is a graphics problem at all.
> >
> > Regards, Alan
>
> Video cards have hardware decoders.
>
> Some of those, use hardly any CPU at all. It is practically
> a matter of shoving MPEG2 packets towards it, and it
> returns frame buffers of movie in return. The CPU usage
> could drop to 1% while this is happening.
>
> Since your video card is AMD/ATI then VDPAU is an NVidia technology
> as far as I know. And calls to that should just be saying
> "Sorry, this machine has no NVidia hardware" or the equivalent.
>
> And this is Linux, where hardware binding happens during startup,
> and no NVidia chain of events should be possible. In Windows, drivers
> can stay loaded if the user does not clean up the drivers, and years
> and years ago, this led to problems. The drivers today are a bit more
> intelligent, and they know there is no NVidia card any more when you
> unplug it.
>
> My original post mentions "xcb_glx" and "xcb_xv" and passing those
> to libvlc is suppose to play some part in configuring hardware acceleration
> (or not) for Kaffeine.
>
> Some video playback crashes, because of some sort of crypto applied
> by the recording part. A second reason, is TV recordings have multiple
> audio and video tracks, and sometimes the playback application needs
> "help" in the form of the user specifying which exact audio track
> and which exact video track they want played.
>
> I don't know the answer, in terms of an exact recipe to fix stuff,
> but the "smell of hardware acceleration horrors" fills the air :-)
> I've had video cards here that were more trouble than they were
> worth, for stuff like this.
>
> And the sad part is, in terms of buying new, they make it damn hard
> to just get a good video card for accelerated playback. One cheap
> card for example, the geniuses *removed* the video decoder block entirely.
> Which for low end cards, is at least half the "value" to the customer,
> is that block. I would have to spend $200 to $250 if I wanted a
> video decoder in hardware today. That's probably more expensive
> than a Mason card playing MPEG video, decades ago (that was a card
> that did nothing but decode video and it had no frame buffer as
> near as I can remember).
>
> The video card companies provide charts for video decoding. A 1660
> might not be a bad choice, but those are probably just going out of
> production.
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new
>
> For AMD, maybe Wikipedia is the best indicator. You might be around UVD 2.2 .
> It's not really important where you are, except that the stupid software
> can figure out not to *segfault* on top of it :-) And that's a little
> if-then-else logic not taking the correct path.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Video_Decoder
>
> They should really have made the hardware accelerator setting
> easier to get to, like it is in Firefox. It should be a preference
> that "does not require screwing around".
>
> Paul


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 by: Mike Easter - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 19:46 UTC

pinnerite wrote:
> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>
> These are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>
> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
I would try to figure out if kaffeine will run on that/your hardware by
using a KDE system instead of a 'non-KDE' gtk-based system like Mint.

I booted a live KDE Neon (22.04 5.27). Kaffeine 2.0.18 was in the
repo/s. It had a LOT of dependencies related to Qt and other. It
installed in Neon just fine.

Why not try a live KDE system based on a similar Ubuntu as your Mint to
see if it installs better on that? Neon is my favorite Ub KDE.

I know there are different opinions about 'mixing' DE pieces, but I try
to avoid doing it, and if I had trouble in doing it, one of the first
things I would do would be see if I had the same kind of trouble using a
more compatible system/DE.

--
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 by: Nic - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 20:05 UTC

On 3/23/23 15:46, Mike Easter wrote:
> pinnerite wrote:
>> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
>>
>> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
>>
>> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage:
>> operation failed
>> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
>> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
>>
>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>
> I would try to figure out if kaffeine will run on that/your hardware
> by using a KDE system instead of a 'non-KDE' gtk-based system like Mint.
>
> I booted a live KDE Neon (22.04 5.27).  Kaffeine 2.0.18 was in the
> repo/s.  It had a LOT of dependencies related to Qt and other.  It
> installed in Neon just fine.
>
> Why not try a live KDE system based on a similar Ubuntu as your Mint
> to see if it installs better on that?  Neon is my favorite Ub KDE.
>
> I know there are different opinions about 'mixing' DE pieces, but I
> try to avoid doing it, and if I had trouble in doing it, one of the
> first things I would do would be see if I had the same kind of trouble
> using a more compatible system/DE.
>
>
Throw that LMDE5 into the mix, and see if it plays nice in a non UB
environment.

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 by: pinnerite - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 23:20 UTC

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 16:05:29 -0400
Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:

> On 3/23/23 15:46, Mike Easter wrote:
> > pinnerite wrote:
> >> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> >>
> >> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> >>
> >> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage:
> >> operation failed
> >> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> >> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> >>
> >> Any idea how to fix this?
> >>
> > I would try to figure out if kaffeine will run on that/your hardware
> > by using a KDE system instead of a 'non-KDE' gtk-based system like Mint.
> >
> > I booted a live KDE Neon (22.04 5.27).  Kaffeine 2.0.18 was in the
> > repo/s.  It had a LOT of dependencies related to Qt and other.  It
> > installed in Neon just fine.
> >
> > Why not try a live KDE system based on a similar Ubuntu as your Mint
> > to see if it installs better on that?  Neon is my favorite Ub KDE.
> >
> > I know there are different opinions about 'mixing' DE pieces, but I
> > try to avoid doing it, and if I had trouble in doing it, one of the
> > first things I would do would be see if I had the same kind of trouble
> > using a more compatible system/DE.
> >
> >
> Throw that LMDE5 into the mix, and see if it plays nice in a non UB
> environment.

Let us not get carried away. Kaffeine has been successfully running
under Mint on the same hardware for the last five years.

Moreover it runs on a virtual Mageia 8 over Mint 20.3.

It is only under Mint 21.1 that I have the problem.

If I could have fixed 20.3 so that I could stream ITVX, I probably
wouldn't have wasted so much time and stayed where I was. :(

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 by: pinnerite - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:12 UTC

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 23:20:59 +0000
pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 16:05:29 -0400
> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>
> > On 3/23/23 15:46, Mike Easter wrote:
> > > pinnerite wrote:
> > >> When I try to run kaffeine 2.0.18 on Mint 21.1, it crashes.
> > >>
> > >> These  are the errors reported when I run it from a terminal:
> > >>
> > >> [00007f532c004e90] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage:
> > >> operation failed
> > >> [00007f533000e8a0] main video output error: video output creation failed
> > >> [00007f533c034990] main decoder error: failed to create video output
> > >>
> > >> Any idea how to fix this?
> > >>
> > > I would try to figure out if kaffeine will run on that/your hardware
> > > by using a KDE system instead of a 'non-KDE' gtk-based system like Mint.
> > >
> > > I booted a live KDE Neon (22.04 5.27).  Kaffeine 2.0.18 was in the
> > > repo/s.  It had a LOT of dependencies related to Qt and other.  It
> > > installed in Neon just fine.
> > >
> > > Why not try a live KDE system based on a similar Ubuntu as your Mint
> > > to see if it installs better on that?  Neon is my favorite Ub KDE.
> > >
> > > I know there are different opinions about 'mixing' DE pieces, but I
> > > try to avoid doing it, and if I had trouble in doing it, one of the
> > > first things I would do would be see if I had the same kind of trouble
> > > using a more compatible system/DE.
> > >
> > >
> > Throw that LMDE5 into the mix, and see if it plays nice in a non UB
> > environment.
>
> Let us not get carried away. Kaffeine has been successfully running
> under Mint on the same hardware for the last five years.
>
> Moreover it runs on a virtual Mageia 8 over Mint 20.3.
>
> It is only under Mint 21.1 that I have the problem.
>
> If I could have fixed 20.3 so that I could stream ITVX, I probably
> wouldn't have wasted so much time and stayed where I was. :(

I made an effort this morning on 20.3 and fixed Firefox so nthat I
could watch "Grace".

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