I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
be a free upgrade?

On 2/6/2023 4:42 PM, John B. Smith wrote:
> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
> be a free upgrade?
>

Qualifying OSes are Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 (not 8.0).

Name: MediaCreationTool22H2.exe
Size: 19,463,448 bytes (18 MiB)
SHA1: 1BF5F814FFE801B4E6F118E829C0D2821D78A60A

Popped the executable into Windows 7 and got this. [thanks to goog]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/deployment/common-windows-update-errors

****************************************************************
0x80072F8F
Message Description Mitigation
WININET_E_DECODING_FAILED; Content decoding has failed TLS 1.2
isn't configured correctly on the client.

This error generally means that the Windows Update Agent was unable
to decode the received content. Install and configure TLS 1.2 by
installing the update in KB3140245.
****************************************************************

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB3140245

That was already installed on mine.

OK, back to the well, bob for another apple.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/media-creation-tool-error-code-0x80072f8f-0x20000/4f8bbe1c-b5af-4cc9-958e-c6c8f3f0b524

This was next. Changes the default TLS standard used by the machine
(whatever that means). Presumably, this would normally apply
to the geriatric IE11.

https://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/5/0658B1A7-6D2E-474F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi

Name: MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi
Size: 1,218,048 bytes (1189 KiB)
SHA1: 8B11F826932A5444067399C3C48720A91E9FFEB7

And that fixed it. On the next run of "MediaCreationTool22H2.exe", it worked :-)

"See how easy this is" <nervous laughter in audience, one beer can thrown>

Paul

On 7/2/2023 5:42 am, John B. Smith wrote:
> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
> be a free upgrade?

You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
Win 7 product key.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:09:27 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
> Qualifying OSes are Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 (not 8.0).

Why not v8.0? What's Microsoft's reasoning?

On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/2/2023 5:42 am, John B. Smith wrote:
>> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
>> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
>> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
>> be a free upgrade?
>
> You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
> Win 7 product key.

That worked for me.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 7/2/2023 5:42 am, John B. Smith wrote:
> >> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
> >> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
> >> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
> >> be a free upgrade?
> >
> > You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
> > Win 7 product key.

> That worked for me.

Does that invalidate the old W7 key if it is still in used?
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On 2/7/2023 4:16 PM, JJ wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:09:27 -0500, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Qualifying OSes are Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 (not 8.0).
>
> Why not v8.0? What's Microsoft's reasoning?
>

This is their notion of "support". To allow the tooling
to work with Windows 8.0 would require verification testing.
And to do so, the OS would need to be "officially supported".
Since Windows 8.0 was retired (can't get security updates for
it), there is no upgrade strategy for it. You would install
Windows 8.1 as an upgrade, then from Windows 8.1 you would
install Windows 10.

I don't know the timing, like whether both W8.0 and W8.1
had SHA2 signing, but that was an issue for Win7. And you
would likely benefit from SHA2 signing before doing the
Win7 SP1 upgrade.

Paul

On 2/7/2023 5:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 7/2/2023 5:42 am, John B. Smith wrote:
>>> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
>>> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
>>> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
>>> be a free upgrade?
>>
>> You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the Win 7 product key.
>
> That worked for me.
>
> Lynn

The purpose of migrating an OS, is getting to keep your programs.

Paul

On 2/7/2023 6:05 PM, Ant wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 7/2/2023 5:42 am, John B. Smith wrote:
>>>> I thought I'd investigate this possibility, haven't seen it talked
>>>> about here. One site said download MediaCreationTool as first step. I
>>>> tried it, won't run on my pc, no reason given. Is it still supposed to
>>>> be a free upgrade?
>>>
>>> You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
>>> Win 7 product key.
>
>> That worked for me.
>
> Does that invalidate the old W7 key if it is still in used?

The purpose of a license, is to operate a copy of the OS on one computer.
To use the license, to run the OS on two computers would not be right.

+-----------+
W7 | Machine 1 |
+-----------+

+-----------+
W10 | Machine 2 | <=== using the W7 key to do this would be wrong
+-----------+

It's not a problem to do this. Nothing has happened to the key.
Nothing has been invalidated. The W10 is traceable to a W7 Free Upgrade.
The machine details remain the same (Machine 1). This is what my Test Machine
is doing right now.

+-----------+
W7 | Machine 1 | [Dual boot]
W10 | |
+-----------+

Paul

On 8/2/2023 7:05 am, Ant wrote:
>>>
>>> You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
>>> Win 7 product key.
>
>> That worked for me.
>
> Does that invalidate the old W7 key if it is still in used?

No, this method of upgrade-install-ing Win 10 gives you a "digital
entitlement", not a real product key as in buying a real Win 10 (retail
box or OEM)!

On 8/2/2023 7:08 am, Paul wrote:
>
> The purpose of migrating an OS, is getting to keep your programs.
>

But you can always re-install all programs. However, I dunno what would
happen to programs that were explicitly tied to Win 7.

Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/2/2023 7:05 am, Ant wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You can always buys a cheap SSD, then install Win 10 into it using the
> >>> Win 7 product key.
> >
> >> That worked for me.
> >
> > Does that invalidate the old W7 key if it is still in used?

> No, this method of upgrade-install-ing Win 10 gives you a "digital
> entitlement", not a real product key as in buying a real Win 10 (retail
> box or OEM)!

Ah. Assuming both are retail keys, can I still use them on completely
different hardwares (e.g., different motherboards)?
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On 9/2/2023 9:19 am, Ant wrote:
>
> Ah. Assuming both are retail keys, can I still use them on completely
> different hardwares (e.g., different motherboards)?

Retail box keys can be transferred from PC to PC. So are digital
entitlement keys.

OEM keys are supposed to be non-transferrable. But you can phone
Micro$oft to beg for it by offering a good excuse. :)