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* [META] Is this ng only for the original Pine from University ofOttavio Caruso
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   `* Re: [META] Is this ng only for the original Pine from University ofOttavio Caruso
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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:16 UTC

.... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
called today (it's a moving target)?

Thanks.

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Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Allodoxaphobia - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:33 UTC

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:16:44 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
> called today (it's a moving target)?

It's for all things *pine.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:30 UTC

Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
>called today (it's a moving target)?

It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
months after releasing the rewrite.

Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are
abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
numbering used with the two earlier forks.

Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
for it.

If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:31 UTC

Am 12/10/2023 um 16:30 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
>> called today (it's a moving target)?
>
> It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
> rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
> copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
> had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
> months after releasing the rewrite.
>
> Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are
> abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
> numbering used with the two earlier forks.
>
> Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
> for it.
>
> If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.

I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

$ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

< Site not found >

Is this a Debian problem?

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Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Holger Schieferdecke - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:02 UTC

Am 13.10.2023 um 10:31 schrieb Ottavio Caruso:
> I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:
>
> $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
> Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/
>
> < Site not found >
>
> Is this a Debian problem?

The Homepage has a new address (I don't know when this was changed):

https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

Holger

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:03 UTC

Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>. . .

>I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

>$ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
>Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

>< Site not found >

>Is this a Debian problem?

The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:37 UTC

Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> . . .
>
>> I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:
>
>> $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
>> Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/
>
>> < Site not found >
>
>> Is this a Debian problem?
>
> The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
> repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
> correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.
>
> Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.
>
> https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

I've reported it. Thanks.

--
Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:54 UTC

Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>. . .

>>>I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

>>>$ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
>>>Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

>>>< Site not found >

>>>Is this a Debian problem?

>>The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
>>repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
>>correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

>>Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

>>https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

>I've reported it. Thanks.

As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be
referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 13:58 UTC

Am 14/10/2023 um 15:54 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> . . .
>
>>>> I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:
>
>>>> $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
>>>> Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/
>
>>>> < Site not found >
>
>>>> Is this a Debian problem?
>
>>> The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
>>> repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
>>> correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.
>
>>> Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.
>
>>> https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git
>
>> I've reported it. Thanks.
>
> As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be
> referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/
>
> Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.

Please anybody feel free to add to this bug:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1053915

--
Ottavio Caruso

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