On 1/26/2022 2:18 PM, Chris wrote:
> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 07:11:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 08:00:01 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/01/2022 22:32, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>>> I accept that may well be the case. The best medicine is based on a risk
>>>>>>> assessment. We know the AstraZeneca vaccine was mainly given to the
>>>>>>> elderly, furthermore there have been instances where the vaccine was
>>>>>>> given to a frail individual and they died as a result. I recall some
>>>>>>> numbers published in Norway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However it has probably saved 60,000 UK lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccine-surveillance-report-published
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I chose not to take the risk of being unvaccinated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's clearly obvious you can't look at things objectively. Shame really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last time I checked in the UK about 2000 people had died after the
>>>>>> vaccine (not necessarily of it, and mostly with low platelet counts).
>>>>>
>>>>> A total of 15 people have died with the vaccine either implicated or
>>>>> causative in England and wales.
>>>>> https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales
>>>>
>>>> Fine. Let's see what the same figures are after say 5 or 10 years from
>>>> now.
>>>
>>> Why? Why not 15 years? Or 3? Are you just going to pick a random number
>>> which suits your argument at the time...?
>>>
>>>
>> All depends on how much damage your immune system has sustained. We're
>> in somewhat uncharted territory here,
>
> There's no evidence the immune system is being damaged so the vaccines will
> work just like all the other ones: effectively and safely.
>
>> but I'd say the nearest
>> approximation would be to take the lessons from the first AIDS
>> sufferers as a benchmark.
>
> COVID is not an autoimmune disease so comparisons to AIDS are inaccurate.
> People clear the Sars-CoV-2 virus within a couple of weeks if they remain
> well. Only a handful of people with identified HIV infections have ever got
> rid of the virus. We cannot cure HIV, but with treatment most people can
> live normal lives.
>

Yet you keep arguing with the idiot.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 19:22:28 -0000, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

> On 1/26/2022 2:18 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 07:11:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 08:00:01 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/01/2022 22:32, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>>>> I accept that may well be the case. The best medicine is based on a risk
>>>>>>>> assessment. We know the AstraZeneca vaccine was mainly given to the
>>>>>>>> elderly, furthermore there have been instances where the vaccine was
>>>>>>>> given to a frail individual and they died as a result. I recall some
>>>>>>>> numbers published in Norway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However it has probably saved 60,000 UK lives.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccine-surveillance-report-published
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I chose not to take the risk of being unvaccinated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's clearly obvious you can't look at things objectively. Shame really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last time I checked in the UK about 2000 people had died after the
>>>>>>> vaccine (not necessarily of it, and mostly with low platelet counts).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A total of 15 people have died with the vaccine either implicated or
>>>>>> causative in England and wales.
>>>>>> https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales
>>>>>
>>>>> Fine. Let's see what the same figures are after say 5 or 10 years from
>>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Why not 15 years? Or 3? Are you just going to pick a random number
>>>> which suits your argument at the time...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> All depends on how much damage your immune system has sustained. We're
>>> in somewhat uncharted territory here,
>>
>> There's no evidence the immune system is being damaged so the vaccines will
>> work just like all the other ones: effectively and safely.
>>
>>> but I'd say the nearest
>>> approximation would be to take the lessons from the first AIDS
>>> sufferers as a benchmark.
>>
>> COVID is not an autoimmune disease so comparisons to AIDS are inaccurate.
>> People clear the Sars-CoV-2 virus within a couple of weeks if they remain
>> well. Only a handful of people with identified HIV infections have ever got
>> rid of the virus. We cannot cure HIV, but with treatment most people can
>> live normal lives.
>>
>
> Yet you keep arguing with the idiot.

For fuck's sake learn to use a killfile.