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by: bad sector - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:35 UTC

It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?

How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI* PAVU control panel? (Leap/TW)

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by: Malcolm - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 03:21 UTC

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:35:43 -0400
bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:

> It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it
> mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?
>
> How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI* PAVU
> control panel? (Leap/TW)
>
>
>
Hi
Have no idea for Plasma, I switched over to pipewire and use
JDSP4Linux-pipewire

zypper se -i pulse pipewire
https://susepaste.org/32163732

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Audio:
Device-1: Intel C610/X99 series HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8d20
Device-2: AMD Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / 560/560X]
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8
bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aae0
Device-3: NVIDIA driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:10fa
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.18.1-1-default running: yes
Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.51 running: yes

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by: bad sector - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 04:38 UTC

On 6/6/22 23:21, Malcolm wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:35:43 -0400
> bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
>
>> It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it
>> mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?
>>
>> How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI* PAVU
>> control panel? (Leap/TW)
>>
>>
>>
> Hi
> Have no idea for Plasma, I switched over to pipewire and use
> JDSP4Linux-pipewire
>
> zypper se -i pulse pipewire
> https://susepaste.org/32163732

Thanks,

The installation went without errors so I presume as it should

As I understand it PW works with ALSA, so do you use some ALSA control panel to select
speakers/headphones/Line-In/Mic etc?

I find the PAVU control panel irreplaceable now that I'm used to it.

On this machine...

# inxi -Axxz
Audio: Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1002:4383
Device-2: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] vendor: ASUSTeK Virtuoso 100 driver: snd_virtuoso
v: kernel bus ID: 03:04.0 chip ID: 13f6:8788
Device-3: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio vendor: ZOTAC driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 08:00.1
chip ID: 10de:0e1b
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.49-preempt

>
> inxi -Axxz
>
> Audio:
> Device-1: Intel C610/X99 series HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
> driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8d20
> Device-2: AMD Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / 560/560X]
> driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8
> bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aae0
> Device-3: NVIDIA driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s
> lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:10fa
> Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.18.1-1-default running: yes
> Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.51 running: yes
>
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by: Malcolm - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 12:43 UTC

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 00:38:35 -0400
bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:

> On 6/6/22 23:21, Malcolm wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:35:43 -0400
> > bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it
> >> mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?
> >>
> >> How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI*
> >> PAVU control panel? (Leap/TW)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Hi
> > Have no idea for Plasma, I switched over to pipewire and use
> > JDSP4Linux-pipewire
> >
> > zypper se -i pulse pipewire
> > https://susepaste.org/32163732
>
> Thanks,
>
> The installation went without errors so I presume as it should
>
> As I understand it PW works with ALSA, so do you use some ALSA
> control panel to select speakers/headphones/Line-In/Mic etc?
>
> I find the PAVU control panel irreplaceable now that I'm used to it.
>
>
>
> On this machine...
>
> # inxi -Axxz
> Audio: Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK M4A89GTD
> PRO/USB3 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID:
> 1002:4383 Device-2: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] vendor: ASUSTeK
> Virtuoso 100 driver: snd_virtuoso v: kernel bus ID: 03:04.0 chip ID:
> 13f6:8788 Device-3: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio vendor: ZOTAC driver:
> snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 08:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0e1b
> Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.49-preempt
>
Hi
Hmmm, I thought you were on Tumbleweed, that's a Leap system?

There should be a second Sound Server showing pipewire running.

ps -ef | grep wire

/usr/bin/pipewire
/usr/bin/wireplumber
/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse

Is wireplumber installed?

It should just work with existing tools AFAIK.

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by: bad sector - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 14:16 UTC

On 6/7/22 08:43, Malcolm wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 00:38:35 -0400
> bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/22 23:21, Malcolm wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:35:43 -0400
>>> bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it
>>>> mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?
>>>>
>>>> How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI*
>>>> PAVU control panel? (Leap/TW)
>>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Have no idea for Plasma, I switched over to pipewire and use
>>> JDSP4Linux-pipewire
>>>
>>> zypper se -i pulse pipewire
>>> https://susepaste.org/32163732
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The installation went without errors so I presume as it should
>>
>> As I understand it PW works with ALSA, so do you use some ALSA
>> control panel to select speakers/headphones/Line-In/Mic etc?
>>
>> I find the PAVU control panel irreplaceable now that I'm used to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On this machine...
>>
>> # inxi -Axxz
>> Audio: Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK M4A89GTD
>> PRO/USB3 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID:
>> 1002:4383 Device-2: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] vendor: ASUSTeK
>> Virtuoso 100 driver: snd_virtuoso v: kernel bus ID: 03:04.0 chip ID:
>> 13f6:8788 Device-3: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio vendor: ZOTAC driver:
>> snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 08:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0e1b
>> Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.49-preempt
>>
> Hi
> Hmmm, I thought you were on Tumbleweed, that's a Leap system?

Mondays Artix/Plasma, Tuesdays Slackware/xfce, Wednesdays Devuan/xfce, Thursdays Suse
Leap/Plasma, Fridays Suse TW/Plasma, Weekends I mix it up :-)

> There should be a second Sound Server showing pipewire running.
>
> ps -ef | grep wire
>
> /usr/bin/pipewire
> /usr/bin/wireplumber
> /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
>
> Is wireplumber installed?

Doubt it, I only looked at pipewire for the first time the other day

I'll try it again tonight

> It should just work with existing tools AFAIK.
>
> --
> Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
> Tumbleweed 20220605 | GNOME Shell 42.2 | 5.18.1-1-default
> HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2690 V3 X24 @ 2.60GHz | AMD RX550/Nvidia Quadro T400
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by: bad sector - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 03:04 UTC

On 6/7/22 08:43, Malcolm wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 00:38:35 -0400
> bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/22 23:21, Malcolm wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:35:43 -0400
>>> bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It installs ok but it also requires Pulse removal, so what does it
>>>> mean that "Pipewire supports Pulse" if Pulkse has to be removed?
>>>>
>>>> How do I get the same control w. Pipewire as I do via the *GUI*
>>>> PAVU control panel? (Leap/TW)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Have no idea for Plasma, I switched over to pipewire and use
>>> JDSP4Linux-pipewire
>>>
>>> zypper se -i pulse pipewire
>>> https://susepaste.org/32163732
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The installation went without errors so I presume as it should
>>
>> As I understand it PW works with ALSA, so do you use some ALSA
>> control panel to select speakers/headphones/Line-In/Mic etc?
>>
>> I find the PAVU control panel irreplaceable now that I'm used to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On this machine...
>>
>> # inxi -Axxz
>> Audio: Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK M4A89GTD
>> PRO/USB3 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID:
>> 1002:4383 Device-2: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] vendor: ASUSTeK
>> Virtuoso 100 driver: snd_virtuoso v: kernel bus ID: 03:04.0 chip ID:
>> 13f6:8788 Device-3: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio vendor: ZOTAC driver:
>> snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 08:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0e1b
>> Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.49-preempt
>>
> Hi
> Hmmm, I thought you were on Tumbleweed, that's a Leap system?
>
> There should be a second Sound Server showing pipewire running.
>
> ps -ef | grep wire
>
> /usr/bin/pipewire
> /usr/bin/wireplumber
> /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
>
> Is wireplumber installed?
>
> It should just work with existing tools AFAIK.

I booted Leap-15.3 just to see and noted that both pipewire AND pulse were installed but that pipewire-pulse was not, all dependencies satisfied, the PAVU control panel working. This probably came about when I re-installed pulse with Yast and IT required pipewire-pulse to be shed. So now I just installed pipewire-pulse which gave as one option the deinstallation of pulseaudio and SOME other pulse packages. So done, now the PAVU control panel is NOT working (all ghosted). Is ALSA mixer the only control window I can use now?

I looked at wireplumber and IT requires systemd but 3 of my distros don't use systemd. Meanwhile I want to arrive at a similar studio setup on all systems. I will continue to tinker with pipewire without wireplumber on the weekend to see about controls, carla and getting carla into rosegarden as a plugin.

# ps -ef | grep wire
root 342 2 0 22:46 ? 00:00:00 [firewire]
root 349 2 0 22:46 ? 00:00:00 [firewire_ohci]
ux 2271 1898 0 22:47 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/pipewire
ux 2718 1898 0 22:48 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
ux 3349 3323 0 22:53 pts/3 00:00:00 grep --color=auto wire

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computers / alt.os.linux.suse / Re: pipewire for my music apps

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pipewire for my music apps	bad sector
Re: pipewire for my music apps	Malcolm
Re: pipewire for my music apps	bad sector
Re: pipewire for my music apps	Malcolm
Re: pipewire for my music apps	bad sector
Re: pipewire for my music apps	bad sector