On 02/03/2022 18:22, Bill wrote:
> On 3/2/2022 7:24 AM, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 02/03/2022 06:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2022 08:40:41 -0000, David Brooks
>>> <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/03/2022 00:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 23:15:57 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 23:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 21:36:53 -0000, David Brooks
>>>>>>> <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 21:22, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 18:13:04 -0000, David Brooks
>>>>>>>>> <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 14:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:44:09 -0000, David (Devon)
>>>>>>>>>>> <BDB@invalid.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 13:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:25:44 -0000, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my build, basically everything is built into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU, except for the SSD.  Video, audio, WiFi, it's all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not good enough for me, I need fast graphics for games and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (up to 80 times faster than CPUs at covid research,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> astrophysics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc).  Simple things like network, audio are on the MB.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, there are obvious advantages to a video card, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option to add one.  But I'm not doing anything that needs it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmph, I can't understand not playing computer games, nowadays
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better than real life.  Get yourself a 55" Phillips 120Hz 4K
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> add the latest Nvidea graphics card, and you'll think you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your two favourite games, Commander?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only one, Fallout 4.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks. I'll spend time exploring here a bit later on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Fallout+4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought you weren't into games.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not nowadays but I was tempted to look and see what I'm
>>>>>>>> missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm rather disappointed; it's only for use with Microsoft
>>>>>>>> Windows. :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can get it for games consoles.  I have warned you Macs have less
>>>>>>> software available.  Bethesda can't be bothered rewriting the
>>>>>>> code for a
>>>>>>> minority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac has a bigger market share nowadays, but it's still less
>>>>>> than 10%
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect Rolls Royce cars have a small share of the motor market too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cityam.com/rolls-royce-motor-cars-sales-soar-luxury-vehicle-demand-surges/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Slight difference.  Although they are both overpriced.
>>>>
>>>> You know the price of everything but the value of nothing!
>>>
>>> Doubling the value tends to quadruple the price.
>>
>> That's good business sense! :-D
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How much do they cost?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> £20 for the basic game, but I have the triple set with more
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> is £60.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was a discount at xmas for about £10 for the whole lot,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> was a year after I'd got it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I assume you're implying I should have paid the £60.  Well no, I
>>>>>>>>>>> can use
>>>>>>>>>>> that £60 to do something else, like increase the computer speed.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or I
>>>>>>>>>>> end up playing a game I wouldn't have put £60 into.  I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>> avoiding
>>>>>>>>>>> paying, I'm playing something I wouldn't have played if I had to
>>>>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm implying nothing!!! (Have you got a guilty conscience?!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I was just trying to work out why you asked the price.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've no idea what such games cost. No doubt my grandsons could
>>>>>>>> tell me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have they not heard of piratebay?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were taught not to steal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not stealing, creating a new copy of the pattern of electrons.
>>>>
>>>> You sound just like Dustin Cook. :-(
>>>>
>>>> What you do is WRONG.
>>>
>>> It benefits me.  It loses the software writer nothing, as if there
>>> was no piratebay etc, I'd have to do without the software.
>>>
>>> Anyway, consider musicians and tradesmen.  The tradesman fits your
>>> kitchen.  He gets paid.  ONCE.  When someone visits your house and
>>> uses your kitchen he is not paid again.  To get paid again he has to
>>> do more work.  But a musician.... he writes and plays a song once,
>>> then expects to get paid repeatedly millions of times for decades
>>> without doing any more work.  Now that's what I call wrong.
>>
>> I understand your logic - but it is flawed.
>>
>> Most musicians, those who make a living from making music, entertain us
>> for much of their lifetimes. They need to be rewarded for their efforts.
>>
>
> A discussion like this need not span 6 newsgroups. Please clip it (and
> then I may offer my 2 cents).