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* MS EdgeEd Cryer
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`* Re: MS EdgeStan Brown
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From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: MS Edge
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:37:20 +0000
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 by: Ed Cryer - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:37 UTC

MS have tied Edge to various Win10 functions, such as searches and News
& Interests. If I uninstall it, then those functions produce nothing.
How can I re-route them to use Firefox?

Ed

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From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
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Subject: Re: MS Edge
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 by: Paul - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:19 UTC

On 3/12/2022 6:37 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> MS have tied Edge to various Win10 functions, such as searches and News & Interests. If I uninstall it, then those functions produce nothing.
> How can I re-route them to use Firefox?
>
> Ed

Lots of things are wired up with Uniform Resource Indicator (URI).
This is not exactly the same thing as URL. (Older ones would include
gopher: and ftp: .)

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31164253/how-to-open-url-in-microsoft-edge-from-the-command-line

"a little late here, but this works because capable url associations
(launchable protocols) for Microsoft-Edge include the
following: http, https, microsoft-edge, and read.

The particular protocol in question, Microsoft-Edge, is specific to
Edge, while others are subject to default app settings
("choose default apps by protocol"). If edge is your default app
for the read protocol, then you can launch it by typing the following
in file explorer

read:http://www.cnn.com.

http and https can be set as seperate protocols or together
by the default web browser."

"Implement `microsoft-edge:` protocol handler"

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726697

Now Brave implemented the microsoft-edge: protocol.

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/29/brave-1-30-supports-microsoft-edges-protocol-on-windows-to-become-the-true-default-browser-on-windows-10-and-11/

What you could do then, is investigate all the browsers which have
taken upon themselves to support: http, https, microsoft-edge, and read

Maybe you could find a way to make Brave support those functions.
(Long shot... You know Microsoft won't make this easy.)

I don't know all the next steps.

What worries me, is there is more than microsoft-edge: . Something
floating around in my brain-pan says there is more. There are also
things with ms- as part of the identifier.

I don't even know how a person would go about "trapping" these
or detecting they're being used. That's why I'm kinda limited
to breadcrumbs I might find in a Bugzilla. All that we'd see in
ProcMon is Edge starting, and likely nothing useful leading up to it.

Paul

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From: the_stan...@fastmail.fm (Stan Brown)
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Subject: Re: MS Edge
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 07:46:55 -0800
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 by: Stan Brown - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 15:46 UTC

On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:37:20 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>
> MS have tied Edge to various Win10 functions, such as searches and News
> & Interests. If I uninstall it, then those functions produce nothing.

I ran Nirsoft's regscanner for "microsoft-edge", which seems to be
Microsoft's non-standard Internet protocol keyword. regscanner found
8 entries.

The first draft of this article showed those 8 entries, and
continued, "I suspect it's possible to do some editing of the
entries, so that your preferred browser will handle the "microsoft-
edge" protocol, but I'm not willing to experiment. stack-overflow
might have an answer for you."

But I did some googling for "make another browser handle microsoft-
edge links" (without quotes). I found a lot of wrong or obsolete
answers, but also this very interesting article from the Daniel
Aleksandersen, author of EdgeDeflector, which used to solve this
problem:
https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html

Short answer: you can't fix this. Since Windows Update KB5007262 in
December 2021, Microsoft ignores the relevant registry entries and
always calls Edge for certain links. You can uninstall that update,
but it will just come back with the next cumulative.

This is a naked override by Microsoft over your browser preference,
and there doesn't seem to be a way around it. (Unanswered is how this
squares with the antitrust cases that Microsoft lost when it did the
same sort of thing with Internet Explorer.)

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
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Subject: Re: MS Edge
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 by: Ed Cryer - Sat, 12 Mar 2022 19:38 UTC

Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:37:20 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>> MS have tied Edge to various Win10 functions, such as searches and News
>> & Interests. If I uninstall it, then those functions produce nothing.
>
> I ran Nirsoft's regscanner for "microsoft-edge", which seems to be
> Microsoft's non-standard Internet protocol keyword. regscanner found
> 8 entries.
>
> The first draft of this article showed those 8 entries, and
> continued, "I suspect it's possible to do some editing of the
> entries, so that your preferred browser will handle the "microsoft-
> edge" protocol, but I'm not willing to experiment. stack-overflow
> might have an answer for you."
>
> But I did some googling for "make another browser handle microsoft-
> edge links" (without quotes). I found a lot of wrong or obsolete
> answers, but also this very interesting article from the Daniel
> Aleksandersen, author of EdgeDeflector, which used to solve this
> problem:
> https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html
>
> Short answer: you can't fix this. Since Windows Update KB5007262 in
> December 2021, Microsoft ignores the relevant registry entries and
> always calls Edge for certain links. You can uninstall that update,
> but it will just come back with the next cumulative.
>
> This is a naked override by Microsoft over your browser preference,
> and there doesn't seem to be a way around it. (Unanswered is how this
> squares with the antitrust cases that Microsoft lost when it did the
> same sort of thing with Internet Explorer.)
>

The best I could find was this;
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-open-news-and-interests-links-in-default-browser

It requires a purpose-written prog; and next WinUpdate will overwrite
that, no doubt.

Ed

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From: the_stan...@fastmail.fm (Stan Brown)
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Subject: Re: MS Edge
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 by: Stan Brown - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 01:22 UTC

On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 19:38:29 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
> The best I could find was this;
> https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-open-news-and-interests-links-in-default-browser
>
> It requires a purpose-written prog; and next WinUpdate will overwrite
> that, no doubt.

That article was written in May 2021, and consequently is worthless.

Anything written pre-November 2021 is worthless for your purposes,
because in November 2021 Microsoft closed the loophole in Windows 11.

Anything pre-December 2021 is probably worthless for Windows 10,
because in December 2021, as I wrote in my previous, Microsoft closed
the loophole in Windows 10.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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