Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.

Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

:-( :-(

--
Zo

There was a man who entered a local paper's pun contest.
He sent in ten different puns, in the hope that at least one of the
puns would win.
Unfortunately, no pun in ten did

On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:

>Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>
>Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
>appreciated.

I successfully used the .css fix that was posted by Big Al in
alt.comp.software.firefox a few days ago. There isn't much traffic there
so you should be able to find it, but holler if you can't.

On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo wrote:
> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>
> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> :-( :-(

Firefox is starting to fall apart.

Since v111, the native toolip (i.e. not HTML based "tooltip") such as the
one for bookmarks' URL, sometimes got cropped by a HTML element. e.g. when
showing tooltip of a bookmark on the bookmarkbar where it'll fully or
partially placed on the HTML viewing area. It also flickers.

This problem does not occur in v105.

In v113, another problem occur, which on some sites, the window for the
fullscreen mode is no longer in a zoomed state where borders exist. Both the
system and Firefox fighting each other to draw that area. The system is
trying to draw the borders, and Firefox is trying to draw the HTML content
fullscreen. The result is a flicker between HTML content and borders.

One example of that borders on fullscreen mode problem is on R2Games.com
HTML based games, when it's viewed fullscreen. YouTube does not have this
problem. It's an ugly problem. The only way to work around it is to use
AutoHotkey to maximize the window after the web browser goes fullscreen.

I've switched back to v105.

On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:

>Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>
>Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
>appreciated.
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>:-( :-(

Why don't you either turn off the updates

make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs

in that directory ,make a text file
called policies.json

in that file put

{

"policies": {
"DisableAppUpdate": true
}

}

or

you could of course back up the mozilla/firefox directory in
%appdata% before updating.

Char Jackson pretended :
> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>
>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>
>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
>> appreciated.
>
> I successfully used the .css fix that was posted by Big Al in
> alt.comp.software.firefox a few days ago. There isn't much traffic there
> so you should be able to find it, but holler if you can't.

Thank you Char, found it.

--
Zo

"Hummels - largest selection ever. 'If it's in stock, we have it!'"

Bob L has brought this to us :
> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>
>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>
>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> :-( :-(
>
>
> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>
> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>
> in that directory ,make a text file
> called policies.json
>
> in that file put
>
>
> {
>
> "policies": {
> "DisableAppUpdate": true
> }
>
> }
>
>
> or
>
> you could of course back up the mozilla/firefox directory in
> %appdata% before updating.

I always manually update so I'll use your other recommendation and
backup before updating. Thank you.

--
Zo

Floppy" ------- When you run out of Polygrip.

On Wed, 17 May 2023 08:52:47 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:

>Char Jackson pretended :
>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this? Any assistance is greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>
>> I successfully used the .css fix that was posted by Big Al in
>> alt.comp.software.firefox a few days ago. There isn't much traffic there
>> so you should be able to find it, but holler if you can't.
>
>Thank you Char, found it.

Good deal, thanks.

On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
> Bob L has brought this to us :
>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> :-(  :-(
>>
>>
>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>
>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>
>> in that directory ,make a text file
>> called   policies.json
>>
>> in that file put
>>
>>
>> {
>>
>>  "policies": {
>>    "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>  }
>>
>> }

What does that new directory need to be named?

On Wed, 17 May 2023 20:11:37 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
>> Bob L has brought this to us :
>>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> :-(  :-(
>>>
>>>
>>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>>
>>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>>
>>> in that directory ,make a text file
>>> called   policies.json
>>>
>>> in that file put
>>>
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>>  "policies": {
>>>    "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>>  }
>>>
>>> }
>
>What does that new directory need to be named?
>
distribution

On 5/19/2023 2:08 AM, Bob L wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2023 20:11:37 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
>>> Bob L has brought this to us :
>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> :-(  :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>>>
>>>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>>>
>>>> in that directory ,make a text file
>>>> called   policies.json
>>>>
>>>> in that file put
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>>
>>>>  "policies": {
>>>>    "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>>>  }
>>>>
>>>> }
>>
>> What does that new directory need to be named?
>>
> distribution

On 5/19/2023 2:08 AM, Bob L wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2023 20:11:37 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
>>> Bob L has brought this to us :
>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> :-(  :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>>>
>>>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>>>
>>>> in that directory ,make a text file
>>>> called   policies.json
>>>>
>>>> in that file put
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>>
>>>>  "policies": {
>>>>    "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>>>  }
>>>>
>>>> }
>>
>> What does that new directory need to be named?
>>
> distribution

I tried this, but still get the new update message when I start firefox.
Is that an indication the fix is not working?

On 5/19/2023 3:27 PM, Bob F wrote:
> On 5/19/2023 2:08 AM, Bob L wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 May 2023 20:11:37 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
>>>> Bob L has brought this to us :
>>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>>>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-(  :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>>>>
>>>>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>>>>
>>>>> in that directory ,make a text file
>>>>> called   policies.json
>>>>>
>>>>> in that file put
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> {
>>>>>
>>>>>   "policies": {
>>>>>     "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>>>>   }
>>>>>
>>>>> }
>>>
>>> What does that new directory need to be named?
>>>
>> distribution
>
> I tried this, but still get the new update message when I start firefox. Is that an indication the fix is not working?

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates <=== updates staged here

updates\308046B0AF4A39CB\updates\0\update.status saying: pending

A manifest constant, seems to be "308046B0AF4A39CB" as the browser agent number
(for the latest update check), and the latest scan for updates may be registered against that.

Perhaps if you clean out that folder, then the policies.json
will be applied ?

I've always had trouble, "once Firefox has the bit in its teeth".

If an update is considered "in-progress", that update will
try to complete, before any of your other policy attempts work.

This is why, to really prevent updates, you

1) Unplug network cable
2) Fresh install Firefox
3) Create c:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\Distribution and your policies.json
4) Plug network cable back in, try Firefox, check that
"updates are controlled by your organization"

The network cable thing, is so the updater service in services.msc cannot
get even a sniff of an update, before the policy fence is in place.

At this point in time, you need a "what is a sufficient cleanup procedure
for AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates?" . I don't know if the service running
in services.msc keeps registry entries or not. Or whether it is happy
with the folder structure as evidence of updates.

Paul

On 5/19/2023 1:57 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 5/19/2023 3:27 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> On 5/19/2023 2:08 AM, Bob L wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 May 2023 20:11:37 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2023 5:55 AM, Zo wrote:
>>>>> Bob L has brought this to us :
>>>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2023 20:56:27 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just updated to version 113.0.1 and now my tabs are over the address
>>>>>>> bar and not below it as I desire/like it to be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have a Chrome file fix for this?  Any assistance is
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-(  :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you either turn off the updates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make a new directory under the firefox directory in programs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in that directory ,make a text file
>>>>>> called   policies.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in that file put
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   "policies": {
>>>>>>     "DisableAppUpdate": true
>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> What does that new directory need to be named?
>>>>
>>> distribution
>>
>> I tried this, but still get the new update message when I start
>> firefox. Is that an indication the fix is not working?
>
> C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates   <=== updates staged here
>
>
> updates\308046B0AF4A39CB\updates\0\update.status    saying: pending
>
> A manifest constant, seems to be "308046B0AF4A39CB" as the browser agent
> number
> (for the latest update check), and the latest scan for updates may be
> registered against that.
>
> Perhaps if you clean out that folder, then the policies.json
> will be applied ?

That folder is empty. so what you say below is likely.

>
> I've always had trouble, "once Firefox has the bit in its teeth".
>
> If an update is considered "in-progress", that update will
> try to complete, before any of your other policy attempts work.
>
> This is why, to really prevent updates, you
>
>    1) Unplug network cable
>    2) Fresh install Firefox
>    3) Create c:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\Distribution and your
> policies.json
>    4) Plug network cable back in, try Firefox, check that
>       "updates are controlled by your organization"
>
> The network cable thing, is so the updater service in services.msc cannot
> get even a sniff of an update, before the policy fence is in place.
>
> At this point in time, you need a "what is a sufficient cleanup procedure
> for AppData\Local\Mozilla\updates?" . I don't know if the service running
> in services.msc keeps registry entries or not. Or whether it is happy
> with the folder structure as evidence of updates.
>
>   Paul
>
>