On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 20:38:29 -0000, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> If you want free, that is
>>>>>> free, but you obviously prefer StartAllBack. Why can't you afford to
>>>>>> compensate them for their work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because I have things I prefer to spend my money on.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you are blatantly rationalizing what you're doing.
>>>
>>> Why do you have a problem with that?
>>
>> The problem is simply that you wouldn't acknowledge that it was
>> rationalization. If you want to pirate software, it doesn't affect
>> me.
>
> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>
That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
me(Commander Kinsey)"

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:31:49 -0000, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

> On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 20:38:29 -0000, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> If you want free, that is
>>>>>>> free, but you obviously prefer StartAllBack. Why can't you afford to
>>>>>>> compensate them for their work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because I have things I prefer to spend my money on.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you are blatantly rationalizing what you're doing.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you have a problem with that?
>>>
>>> The problem is simply that you wouldn't acknowledge that it was
>>> rationalization. If you want to pirate software, it doesn't affect
>>> me.
>>
>> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>>
> That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
> me(Commander Kinsey)"

It's not a criminal offence here, only in backwards America.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:31:49 -0000, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:
>> On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>
>>> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>>>
>> That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
>> me(Commander Kinsey)"
>
>It's not a criminal offence here, only in backwards America.

Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.

--
Joel Crump

On Mar 21, 2022 at 6:09:37 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<ab8i3hhr6drrt7hbbkg2hirpofsvs2ith0@4ax.com>:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:31:49 -0000, Sjouke Burry
>> <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:
>>> On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I
>>>> want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that
>>>> it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>>>>
>>> That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
>>> me(Commander Kinsey)"
>>
>> It's not a criminal offence here, only in backwards America.
>
>
> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.

Personal perhaps. When I worked at UNLV we would get occasionally audited...
and there were penalties. My labs were always found to be 100% in compliance.

Thankfully they never looked in the folder marked "US Budget" with the image
of a pig.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
>> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.
>
>Personal perhaps. When I worked at UNLV we would get occasionally audited...
>and there were penalties. My labs were always found to be 100% in compliance.
>
>Thankfully they never looked in the folder marked "US Budget" with the image
>of a pig.

It seems that the government wouldn't need be the one responsible for
finding infringement by an organization of that kind.

--
Joel Crump

On Mar 21, 2022 at 7:33:36 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<ggci3hd5e8tqnrg1hedkve7o4j41gra95c@4ax.com>:

> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
>>> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.
>>
>> Personal perhaps. When I worked at UNLV we would get occasionally audited...
>> and there were penalties. My labs were always found to be 100% in compliance.
>>
>> Thankfully they never looked in the folder marked "US Budget" with the image
>> of a pig.
>
>
> It seems that the government wouldn't need be the one responsible for
> finding infringement by an organization of that kind.

Been many years but I think it was a private organization the software
companies used.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Personal [software piracy would] perhaps [not be criminal]. When I worked at UNLV we would get occasionally audited...
>>> and there were penalties. My labs were always found to be 100% in compliance.
>>>
>>> Thankfully they never looked in the folder marked "US Budget" with the image
>>> of a pig.
>>
>> It seems that the government wouldn't need be the one responsible for
>> finding infringement by an organization of that kind.
>
>Been many years but I think it was a private organization the software
>companies used.

Well, if that could result in criminal sanctions on individuals, it's
wrong.

--
Joel Crump

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 01:09:37 -0000, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:31:49 -0000, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:
>>> On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>>>>
>>> That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
>>> me(Commander Kinsey)"
>>
>> It's not a criminal offence here, only in backwards America.
>
> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.

People in the US have been done for downloading pirate music.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 01:36:46 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 21, 2022 at 6:09:37 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> <ab8i3hhr6drrt7hbbkg2hirpofsvs2ith0@4ax.com>:
>
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:31:49 -0000, Sjouke Burry
>>> <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:
>>>> On 21.03.22 22:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've no idea what you're on about with "rationalization". I do it because I
>>>>> want to do it. I don't care if it's "right". But I've explained to you that
>>>>> it is and you won't accept it, your problem not mine.
>>>>>
>>>> That is a nice judicial description meaning "I am a criminal, sue
>>>> me(Commander Kinsey)"
>>>
>>> It's not a criminal offence here, only in backwards America.
>>
>>
>> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
>> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.
>
> Personal perhaps. When I worked at UNLV we would get occasionally audited...
> and there were penalties. My labs were always found to be 100% in compliance.

In the UK they don't do that sort of thing much. Although apparently my local council was done for not having enough Windows licenses (they had ONE for the entire council). ROFL! The government getting itself into trouble.

> Thankfully they never looked in the folder marked "US Budget" with the image of a pig.

What have the police to do with budgets?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:25:05 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>> Personal software piracy is not a criminal offense in practical terms,
>> in the U.S. No one does time for it, for certain.
>
>People in the US have been done for downloading pirate music.
The United States has a history of intellectual property piracy going
back to the very beginning with unauthorized editions of British and
European works. Charles Dickens and Tolkien were ones who screamed
most about American piracy of their works but they were far from the
only ones.

In response, modern US copyright law goes way beyond most of her
allies which may be strongly related to America's role of far more of
literature in the English language (including electronic media) than
was the case pre-WW2 when the majority of English language works
shifted from Britain to America.

When Churchill was hit by a car in NYC in 1931 he was on a book tour
(he was hoping to recoup his 1929 losses which he didn't fully do till
post-WW2 - his 6 volume WW2 history was a big part of that) he was
promoting the American editions of his latest works.