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Re: Brother Hl-2300d Laser Printer

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On 2023-05-09, Nic wrote:
> [...]
> If I knew what was wrong I would tell myself first. I am not sure what
> is wrong. For the record- there at least 2 ways to look at the printer-
> 1- From within a browser using address http://localhost:631/
> 2- From the menu admin/printers

Two different interfaces to the same thing -- (the) Common UNIX Printing
System (i.e. CUPS).

Have you installed the drivers from Brother yet?

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Re: Brother Hl-2300d Laser Printer

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 by: Edmund - Wed, 10 May 2023 10:16 UTC

On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an excellent
>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other companies even
>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box. With MX
>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>
>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>
>>>> Did you try?
>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving the usb plug around to a more permanent
>>> location it crapped out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.
>>
>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>
>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>
>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when reading
>> these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes single
>> product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need your decoder
>> ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals cover six different
>> printers, instead of one printer.
>>
>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>
>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing 1x16 LCD display.
>> These may indicate a reduced function set. There might not be a way to do an SSID
>> or a password or an IP address, without the convenience of a local display.
>> (Installing a Wifi mini card inside the printer, would not be enough to make the
>> device into one of the other SKUs.)
>>
>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol support (PCL6,
>> PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough to do a basic PostScript
>> interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end of the world. But given how "silent"
>> the marketing materials are about protocols, I would guess the printer does
>> pixmaps like my inkjet might be doing it.
>>
>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon laser. This was a "real"
>> laser printer, in the sense that it had a HeNe gas laser inside the chassis. There's
>> nothing particularly noteworthy about such an approach. The hardware interface was
>> a "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and zeros to the laser
>> so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably not all that much different
>> in a sense, than what your new laser printer is doing. The USB2 interface is then
>> an equivalent to the old video draw interface :-) And such techniques are intended
>> to save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe laser, had no
>> processing requirements, because the protocol was so dumb. It's possible it used
>> wired status bits to indicate "paper jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>
>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor from AMD, and that
>> is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or whatever. The printers used to have
>> a DIMM in them, so the internal memory could be upgraded. There may be no RAM
>> upgrade capability (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern "personal laser".
>>
>>    Paul
> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the steps for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on the whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced usb
> cable with no improvement.

It requires a USB 2 port! But why would anybody want to use a USB anyway?
Use a network cable or wifi and the whole network can use it.

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 by: Nic - Wed, 10 May 2023 12:01 UTC

On 5/10/23 5:09 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On 2023-05-09, Nic wrote:
>> [...]
>> If I knew what was wrong I would tell myself first. I am not sure what
>> is wrong. For the record- there at least 2 ways to look at the printer-
>> 1- From within a browser using address http://localhost:631/
>> 2- From the menu admin/printers
> Two different interfaces to the same thing -- (the) Common UNIX Printing
> System (i.e. CUPS).
>
> Have you installed the drivers from Brother yet?
>
I have re-installed many many times. I have also deleted the printer and
installed the drivers.

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 by: Nic - Wed, 10 May 2023 12:02 UTC

On 5/10/23 6:16 AM, Edmund wrote:
> On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an
>>>>>>>>>>> excellent
>>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other
>>>>>>>>>>> companies even
>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box.
>>>>>>>>>>> With MX
>>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your
>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to
>>>>>> print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>>
>>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you try?
>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I
>>>> found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It
>>>> seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried
>>>> moving the usb plug around to a more permanent location it crapped
>>>> out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps.
>>>> This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the
>>>> wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to
>>>> possible solutions.
>>>
>>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>>
>>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>>
>>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when reading
>>> these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes single
>>> product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need your
>>> decoder
>>> ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals cover six
>>> different
>>> printers, instead of one printer.
>>>
>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>>
>>>
>>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing
>>> 1x16 LCD display.
>>> These may indicate a reduced function set. There might not be a way
>>> to do an SSID
>>> or a password or an IP address, without the convenience of a local
>>> display.
>>> (Installing a Wifi mini card inside the printer, would not be enough
>>> to make the
>>> device into one of the other SKUs.)
>>>
>>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol
>>> support (PCL6,
>>> PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough to do a basic
>>> PostScript
>>> interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end of the world. But given
>>> how "silent"
>>> the marketing materials are about protocols, I would guess the
>>> printer does
>>> pixmaps like my inkjet might be doing it.
>>>
>>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon
>>> laser. This was a "real"
>>> laser printer, in the sense that it had a HeNe gas laser inside the
>>> chassis. There's
>>> nothing particularly noteworthy about such an approach. The hardware
>>> interface was
>>> a "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and zeros
>>> to the laser
>>> so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably not all that
>>> much different
>>> in a sense, than what your new laser printer is doing. The USB2
>>> interface is then
>>> an equivalent to the old video draw interface :-) And such
>>> techniques are intended
>>> to save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe
>>> laser, had no
>>> processing requirements, because the protocol was so dumb. It's
>>> possible it used
>>> wired status bits to indicate "paper jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>>
>>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor
>>> from AMD, and that
>>> is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or whatever. The printers
>>> used to have
>>> a DIMM in them, so the internal memory could be upgraded. There may
>>> be no RAM
>>> upgrade capability (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern
>>> "personal laser".
>>>
>>>    Paul
>> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the steps
>> for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on the
>> whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my
>> machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced usb cable with no
>> improvement.
>
> It requires a USB 2 port! But why would anybody want to use a USB anyway?
> Use a network cable or wifi and the whole network can use it.
>
>
I would be happy with usb cable and consistent results.

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 by: Edmund - Wed, 10 May 2023 12:12 UTC

On 5/10/23 14:02, Nic wrote:
> On 5/10/23 6:16 AM, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an excellent
>>>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other companies even
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box. With MX
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you try?
>>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving the usb plug around to a more permanent
>>>>> location it crapped out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.
>>>>
>>>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>>>
>>>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>>>
>>>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when reading
>>>> these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes single
>>>> product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need your decoder
>>>> ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals cover six different
>>>> printers, instead of one printer.
>>>>
>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>>>
>>>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing 1x16 LCD display.
>>>> These may indicate a reduced function set. There might not be a way to do an SSID
>>>> or a password or an IP address, without the convenience of a local display.
>>>> (Installing a Wifi mini card inside the printer, would not be enough to make the
>>>> device into one of the other SKUs.)
>>>>
>>>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol support (PCL6,
>>>> PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough to do a basic PostScript
>>>> interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end of the world. But given how "silent"
>>>> the marketing materials are about protocols, I would guess the printer does
>>>> pixmaps like my inkjet might be doing it.
>>>>
>>>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon laser. This was a "real"
>>>> laser printer, in the sense that it had a HeNe gas laser inside the chassis. There's
>>>> nothing particularly noteworthy about such an approach. The hardware interface was
>>>> a "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and zeros to the laser
>>>> so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably not all that much different
>>>> in a sense, than what your new laser printer is doing. The USB2 interface is then
>>>> an equivalent to the old video draw interface :-) And such techniques are intended
>>>> to save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe laser, had no
>>>> processing requirements, because the protocol was so dumb. It's possible it used
>>>> wired status bits to indicate "paper jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>>>
>>>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor from AMD, and that
>>>> is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or whatever. The printers used to have
>>>> a DIMM in them, so the internal memory could be upgraded. There may be no RAM
>>>> upgrade capability (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern "personal laser".
>>>>
>>>>    Paul
>>> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the steps for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on the whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced
>>> usb cable with no improvement.
>>
>> It requires a USB 2 port! But why would anybody want to use a USB anyway?
>> Use a network cable or wifi and the whole network can use it.
>>
>>
> I would be happy with usb cable and consistent results.

Well if you insist, you should check if you use a specified USB port en realize that Linux and USB is not a happy marriage.
To be honest I never had USB-problems with printers.

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The moment any organization established from pure noble intentions get some influence, it will be corrupted from both inside and outside.
Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

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 by: Nic - Wed, 10 May 2023 13:36 UTC

On 5/10/23 8:12 AM, Edmund wrote:
> On 5/10/23 14:02, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/10/23 6:16 AM, Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> box. With MX
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your
>>>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to
>>>>>>>> print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you try?
>>>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and
>>>>>> I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now
>>>>>> printing. It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because
>>>>>> when I tried moving the usb plug around to a more permanent
>>>>>> location it crapped out. I got it to work again but don't ask me
>>>>>> to repeat my steps. This will suffice for now, and I am very
>>>>>> timid to explore the wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to
>>>>>> all who contributed to possible solutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when
>>>>> reading
>>>>> these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes single
>>>>> product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need your
>>>>> decoder
>>>>> ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals cover six
>>>>> different
>>>>> printers, instead of one printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing
>>>>> 1x16 LCD display.
>>>>> These may indicate a reduced function set. There might not be a
>>>>> way to do an SSID
>>>>> or a password or an IP address, without the convenience of a local
>>>>> display.
>>>>> (Installing a Wifi mini card inside the printer, would not be
>>>>> enough to make the
>>>>> device into one of the other SKUs.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol
>>>>> support (PCL6,
>>>>> PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough to do a basic
>>>>> PostScript
>>>>> interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end of the world. But given
>>>>> how "silent"
>>>>> the marketing materials are about protocols, I would guess the
>>>>> printer does
>>>>> pixmaps like my inkjet might be doing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon
>>>>> laser. This was a "real"
>>>>> laser printer, in the sense that it had a HeNe gas laser inside
>>>>> the chassis. There's
>>>>> nothing particularly noteworthy about such an approach. The
>>>>> hardware interface was
>>>>> a "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and
>>>>> zeros to the laser
>>>>> so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably not all that
>>>>> much different
>>>>> in a sense, than what your new laser printer is doing. The USB2
>>>>> interface is then
>>>>> an equivalent to the old video draw interface :-) And such
>>>>> techniques are intended
>>>>> to save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe
>>>>> laser, had no
>>>>> processing requirements, because the protocol was so dumb. It's
>>>>> possible it used
>>>>> wired status bits to indicate "paper jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor
>>>>> from AMD, and that
>>>>> is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or whatever. The printers
>>>>> used to have
>>>>> a DIMM in them, so the internal memory could be upgraded. There
>>>>> may be no RAM
>>>>> upgrade capability (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern
>>>>> "personal laser".
>>>>>
>>>>>    Paul
>>>> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the
>>>> steps for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on
>>>> the whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my
>>>> machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced usb cable with no
>>>> improvement.
>>>
>>> It requires a USB 2 port! But why would anybody want to use a USB
>>> anyway?
>>> Use a network cable or wifi and the whole network can use it.
>>>
>>>
>> I would be happy with usb cable and consistent results.
>
>
> Well if you insist, you should check if you use a specified USB port
> en realize that Linux and USB is not a happy marriage.
> To be honest I never had USB-problems with printers.
>
>
>
>
I realize that. I was never sure if it is a Linux problem or a
hardware/motherboard problem. If I could pin down the cabled printer to
work consistently I then might venture into the wireless workings. Since
I am using LM 20.3 and there is a new feature in LM 21.1 called
driverless printing, I have been trying to install the components into
ver 20.3.


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On 5/10/23 15:36, Nic wrote:
> On 5/10/23 8:12 AM, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/10/23 14:02, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/10/23 6:16 AM, Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/23 20:00, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/23 04:05, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/2023 4:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an excellent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other companies even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box. With MX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>>>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you try?
>>>>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving the usb plug around to a more
>>>>>>> permanent location it crapped out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 2300d does not have Wireless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the part number has a "w" on the end, that is a wireless product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need a language lawyer and an if-then-else specialist when reading
>>>>>> these specification pages (unfortunately). Nobody makes single
>>>>>> product web pages, with clearly stated exact specs. You need your decoder
>>>>>> ring to figure out there is no Wifi. Even the manuals cover six different
>>>>>> printers, instead of one printer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2300d_us_eu_as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other diffs, are the amount of static RAM onboard and the missing 1x16 LCD display.
>>>>>> These may indicate a reduced function set. There might not be a way to do an SSID
>>>>>> or a password or an IP address, without the convenience of a local display.
>>>>>> (Installing a Wifi mini card inside the printer, would not be enough to make the
>>>>>> device into one of the other SKUs.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the past, we used to rate laser printers by their protocol support (PCL6,
>>>>>> PostScript for LPR, direct PDF). About 2MB is enough to do a basic PostScript
>>>>>> interpreter. So finding 8MB is not the end of the world. But given how "silent"
>>>>>> the marketing materials are about protocols, I would guess the printer does
>>>>>> pixmaps like my inkjet might be doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At work, we did our own hardware driver card, for an early Canon laser. This was a "real"
>>>>>> laser printer, in the sense that it had a HeNe gas laser inside the chassis. There's
>>>>>> nothing particularly noteworthy about such an approach. The hardware interface was
>>>>>> a "video interface", which ran at 2Mhz or so and sent ones and zeros to the laser
>>>>>> so the laser could draw on the drum. This is probably not all that much different
>>>>>> in a sense, than what your new laser printer is doing. The USB2 interface is then
>>>>>> an equivalent to the old video draw interface :-) And such techniques are intended
>>>>>> to save the maximum amount of BOM costs. The printer with the HeNe laser, had no
>>>>>> processing requirements, because the protocol was so dumb. It's possible it used
>>>>>> wired status bits to indicate "paper jam", "no toner", and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the "smarter" laser printers, they had a 25MHz RISC processor from AMD, and that
>>>>>> is what would process PostScript or PCL6 or whatever. The printers used to have
>>>>>> a DIMM in them, so the internal memory could be upgraded. There may be no RAM
>>>>>> upgrade capability (or even a reason to upgrade RAM) on a modern "personal laser".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Paul
>>>>> The HL-L2325DW crapped out this morning. I went through all the steps for re-installation and it did print a couple of times but on the whole there either something wrong with the CUPS system on my machine..20.3 or some other glitch. I replaced
>>>>> usb cable with no improvement.
>>>>
>>>> It requires a USB 2 port! But why would anybody want to use a USB anyway?
>>>> Use a network cable or wifi and the whole network can use it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would be happy with usb cable and consistent results.
>>
>>
>> Well if you insist, you should check if you use a specified USB port en realize that Linux and USB is not a happy marriage.
>> To be honest I never had USB-problems with printers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I realize that. I was never sure if it is a Linux problem or a hardware/motherboard problem. If I could pin down the cabled printer to work consistently I then might venture into the wireless workings. Since I am using LM 20.3 and there is a new
> feature in LM 21.1 called driverless printing, I have been trying to install the components into ver 20.3.


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On 5/10/2023 8:02 AM, Nic wrote:

>>
> I would be happy with usb cable and consistent results.

Use "lsusb" and check that it is visible and
presents evidence it is plugged in.

The Brother specification page for your printer,
shows it has power saving states.

Observe whether any failure to function, is related
to the printer going into power save. It could be,
if it has an LCD status line, that it says
"Going to Sleep" or similar.

The user manual may not do a good job of explaining
power save. The specification page may be your only
hint, that it has such behaviors, which you cannot see.

While we expect power saving devices to function
"logically", sometimes the design does stupid things
and you have to touch a button before you can use it.
I don't think that's your problem, but just keep
an eye out for it.

If you use a KillOWatt meter, and set it to measure
immediate watts, you can see the wattage level drop
as it goes through the power states. But only do that
test, if you're otherwise stumped as to what is wrong.

Paul

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On 5/7/23 2:45 PM, Nic wrote:
> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an excellent
>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other companies
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box. With MX
>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>
>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print
>>> wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>
>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>
>> Did you try?
>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>
> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I
> found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It
> seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving
> the usb plug around to a more permanent location it crapped out. I got
> it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will suffice
> for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects of this
> printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.

IDK if you noticed but in the 'Brother Troubleshooting >> Linux' there
is mention of a USB patch for "Debian 11 or later, Ubuntu 20.04 or later
and on their derivatives" to address USB printing issues:

Date: 12/07/2021
ID: faq00100729_000
https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us&ftype3=100257&faqid=faq00100729_000

Posting as I didn't see mention in this patch in the current thread.

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 by: Nic - Thu, 11 May 2023 15:22 UTC

On 5/11/23 8:34 AM, jeorge wrote:
> On 5/7/23 2:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an
>>>>>>>>> excellent
>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other
>>>>>>>>> companies even
>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box.
>>>>>>>>> With MX
>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print
>>>> wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>
>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>
>>> Did you try?
>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>
>>>
>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I
>> found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It
>> seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving
>> the usb plug around to a more permanent location it crapped out. I
>> got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will
>> suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects
>> of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.
>
> IDK if you noticed but in the 'Brother Troubleshooting >> Linux' there
> is mention of a USB patch for "Debian 11 or later, Ubuntu 20.04 or
> later and on their derivatives" to address USB printing issues:
>
> Date: 12/07/2021
> ID: faq00100729_000
> https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us&ftype3=100257&faqid=faq00100729_000
>
>
> Posting as I didn't see mention in this patch in the current thread.
>
Thank you for posting this link. This is the first I have seen this, you
would think that Brother would make it more accessible.  I have
installed this patch and now my experience seems to be the pdf client
that I use to view a pdf file (grocery list 1 page) has some problems. I
have been using Foxit reader which seems to have a problem printing to
the printer, when I switched to QPDFVIEW it printed properly.

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Nic wrote:
> This is the first I have seen this, you would think that Brother would
> make it more accessible.

It looks like that faq/fix is under the Brother printer HL-L2325DW

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 by: Edmund - Fri, 12 May 2023 08:05 UTC

On 5/11/23 17:22, Nic wrote:
> On 5/11/23 8:34 AM, jeorge wrote:
>> On 5/7/23 2:45 PM, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/7/23 13:51, Edmund wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/23 13:19, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/23 06:43, Edmund wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/23 22:46, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 16:32, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 16:14:37 -0400
>>>>>>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/23 13:10, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> For people that don't use color when printing, this is an excellent
>>>>>>>>>> printer.  Very low price, and the cartridges last a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can get compatible toner cartridges made by other companies even
>>>>>>>>>> cheaper.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I was using Linux Mint it worked right out of the box. With MX
>>>>>>>>>> Linux I had to download the drivers from Brother's website.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Printer
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toner cartridge
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-HLL2300D-Compact-Monochrome-Laser-Printer-Duplex-Printing/40334928?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>> did you mean
>>>>>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toner-Bank-TN730-TN760-Cartridge-Compatible-Brother-TN-760-TN-760-TN-730-730-DCP-L2550DW-MFC-L2710DW-MFC-L2750DW-HL-L2395DW-HL-L2350DW-HL-L2390DW-HL-/585757044?athbdg=L1600&from=searchResults
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ordered the pair., hope it has some shelf life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know it won't work with my printer, and I don't see your printer
>>>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel like I am trapped in Linux printer hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your problem? you didn't find el cheapo toner yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I found the el cheapo toner, but I haven't figured out how to print wireless ly, am now awaiting the usb cable
>>>>
>>>> Well if absolutely nothing else work, read the manual.
>>>> I would stretch, not before you tried all other things.
>>>>
>>>> Did you try?
>>>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us
>>>>
>>> I did, many times. I looked around my computer stuff in a box and I found a cable, which I tried and the HL-L2325DV is now printing. It seems like a fragile working arrangement, because when I tried moving the usb plug around to a more permanent
>>> location it crapped out. I got it to work again but don't ask me to repeat my steps. This will suffice for now, and I am very timid to explore the wireless aspects of this printer. Thanks to all who contributed to possible solutions.
>>
>> IDK if you noticed but in the 'Brother Troubleshooting >> Linux' there is mention of a USB patch for "Debian 11 or later, Ubuntu 20.04 or later and on their derivatives" to address USB printing issues:
>>
>> Date: 12/07/2021
>> ID: faq00100729_000
>> https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2325dw_us&ftype3=100257&faqid=faq00100729_000
>>
>> Posting as I didn't see mention in this patch in the current thread.
>>
> Thank you for posting this link. This is the first I have seen this, you would think that Brother would make it more accessible.  I have installed this patch and now my experience seems to be the pdf client that I use to view a pdf file (grocery list
> 1 page) has some problems. I have been using Foxit reader which seems to have a problem printing to the printer, when I switched to QPDFVIEW it printed properly.

Very nice of Brother to come with a "fix"/ workaround, but since you told us that another Linux version had
no problems with it. I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems but our cut and paste "coders" don't care
and most of the linux religion cannot even handle someone mentioning linux has bugs.
So we have to live with it, it never will be solved, good that Brother came to help.

--
The moment any organization established from pure noble intentions get some influence, it will be corrupted from both inside and outside.
Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

Edmund

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 by: Mike Easter - Fri, 12 May 2023 15:46 UTC

Edmund wrote:
> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems

Here is a useful article

https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023

The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and cables,
some other command line remedies, and it also says:

> the device may not be compatible with Linux.

I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux non-compatibles;
maybe someone has some useful info on that. I've never encountered it.

--
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On 5/12/2023 11:46 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> Edmund wrote:
>> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
>> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems
>
> Here is a useful article
>
> https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
>> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023
>
> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>
>>  the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>
> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that.  I've never encountered it.
>

ippusbdisable.sh <=== brother deb file contents

/etc/udev/rules.d/ <=== where it places new entry

If the user failed to carry out some driver step,
then "cutting off your arm" might be a convenient option.
That's what the Brother patch is for, "cutting off your arm".

If printing works on another distro, that means there is
a working driver involved.

USB.org has a printing standard. Page 9 shows how
a device declaration for IPP would be done.

https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/IPP_0.zip

Wikipedia claims that 98% of printers support IPP,
which means the other 2%, don't support it.

Page 9 or so.

bInterfaceClass 07h
bInterfaceSubClass 01h
bInterfaceProtocol
00 Reserved, undefined.
01 Unidirectional interface. \
02 Bi-directional interface. \___ Legacy printer port over USB
03 1284.4 compatible bi-directional interface. /
04 IPP USB interface <=== check for this
05-FEh Reserved for future use.
FFh Vendor-specific printers do not use class-specific protocols.

It would be rather silly, when designing a printer, to mark
it 0x04, if you did not plan on having a standards compliant IPP
function. And that's why you'd check and see.

Paul

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Paul wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and
>> cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>>
>>> the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>>
>> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux
>> non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that. I've
>> never encountered it.
>>
>
> ippusbdisable.sh <=== brother deb file contents
>
> /etc/udev/rules.d/ <=== where it places new entry
>
> If the user failed to carry out some driver step, then "cutting off
> your arm" might be a convenient option. That's what the Brother
> patch is for, "cutting off your arm".
>
> If printing works on another distro, that means there is a working
> driver involved.
>
> USB.org has a printing standard. Page 9 shows how a device
> declaration for IPP would be done.
>
> https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/IPP_0.zip
>
> Wikipedia claims that 98% of printers support IPP, which means the
> other 2%, don't support it.
>
> Page 9 or so.
>
> bInterfaceClass 07h bInterfaceSubClass 01h bInterfaceProtocol
> 00 Reserved, undefined. 01 Unidirectional interface. \ 02
> Bi-directional interface. \___ Legacy printer port
> over USB 03 1284.4 compatible bi-directional interface. /
> 04 IPP USB interface <=== check for this 05-FEh Reserved
> for future use. FFh Vendor-specific printers do not use
> class-specific protocols.
>
> It would be rather silly, when designing a printer, to mark it 0x04,
> if you did not plan on having a standards compliant IPP function.
> And that's why you'd check and see.
>
I get the idea that there are oldish legacy printer devices, including
such as
Brother, which don't do IPP.

Also, recently mentioned upstream was driverless, which appears in the
wp IPP article:

> IPP Everywhere was published in 2013 and provides a common baseline
> for printers to support so-called "driverless" printing from client
> devices. It builds on IPP and specifies additional rules for
> interoperability, such as a list of document formats printers need
> to support. A corresponding self-certification manual and tool suite
> was published in 2016 allowing printer manufacturers and print
> server implementors to certify their solutions against the published
> specification and be listed on the IPP Everywhere printers page
> maintained by the PWG.

CUPS:
> Products using the Internet Printing Protocol include CUPS (which is
> part of Apple macOS and many BSD and Linux distributions and is the
> reference implementation for most versions of IPP

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Mike Easter

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On 5/12/23 17:46, Mike Easter wrote:
> Edmund wrote:
>> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
>> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems
>
> Here is a useful article
>
> https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
>> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023
>
> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>
>>  the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>
> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that.  I've never encountered it.
>
Thanks for the link, although I am not going to waste more time on linux USB bugs.
I know it never happens but it should be nice if those cut and paste clowns fixed this shit
instead of releasing more releases.

--
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Edmund

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 by: Nic - Fri, 12 May 2023 22:09 UTC

On 5/12/23 5:48 PM, Edmund wrote:
> On 5/12/23 17:46, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Edmund wrote:
>>> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
>>> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems
>>
>> Here is a useful article
>>
>> https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
>>> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023
>>
>> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and
>> cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>>
>>>  the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>>
>> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux
>> non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that. I've
>> never encountered it.
>>
> Thanks for the link, although I am not going to waste more time on
> linux USB bugs.
> I know it never happens but it should be nice if those cut and paste
> clowns fixed this shit
> instead of releasing more releases.
>
>
>
Agreed, for I am on the same page, Linux is far too important to be
ignored this way.  Let USB be an important component of Linux.

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On 5/12/2023 6:09 PM, Nic wrote:
> On 5/12/23 5:48 PM, Edmund wrote:
>> On 5/12/23 17:46, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Edmund wrote:
>>>> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
>>>> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems
>>>
>>> Here is a useful article
>>>
>>> https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
>>>> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023
>>>
>>> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>>>
>>>>  the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that. I've never encountered it.
>>>
>> Thanks for the link, although I am not going to waste more time on linux USB bugs.
>> I know it never happens but it should be nice if those cut and paste clowns fixed this shit
>> instead of releasing more releases.
>>
>>
>>
> Agreed, for I am on the same page, Linux is far too important to be ignored this way.  Let USB be an important component of Linux.

There is an example of someone getting a Brother working here.
Drivers matter. The OS may not be enough by itself.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/407432/cups-reports-all-successful-but-nothing-prints-on-brother-hl-2240-series-usb-pr

Apparently, it's not good on status messages, so when a print
"seems to disappear without a trace", that might be design
intent (by not doing a better job on logging).

Paul

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 by: Edmund - Sat, 13 May 2023 07:22 UTC

On 5/13/23 02:00, Paul wrote:
> On 5/12/2023 6:09 PM, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/12/23 5:48 PM, Edmund wrote:
>>> On 5/12/23 17:46, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> Edmund wrote:
>>>>> I see that you encountered a LINUX - USB problem!
>>>>> As I told here many times, linux still has serious USB problems
>>>>
>>>> Here is a useful article
>>>>
>>>> https://technowizah.com/fix-usb-port-not-working-on-linux/
>>>>> 5 Ways To Fix USB Port Not Working on Linux 2023
>>>>
>>>> The article talks about lsusb, dmesg, usb-devices, usb ports and cables, some other command line remedies, and it also says:
>>>>
>>>>>  the device may not be compatible with Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about the 'back story' on linux non-compatibles; maybe someone has some useful info on that. I've never encountered it.
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the link, although I am not going to waste more time on linux USB bugs.
>>> I know it never happens but it should be nice if those cut and paste clowns fixed this shit
>>> instead of releasing more releases.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Agreed, for I am on the same page, Linux is far too important to be ignored this way.  Let USB be an important component of Linux.
>
> There is an example of someone getting a Brother working here.
> Drivers matter. The OS may not be enough by itself.

Explain it away Paul explain it away that will help NOT.
Since you are good guy who help people here I will remind you what I experienced but I will most certainly not through all this crazy shit again.
Computer A Ubuntu X USB not working with my phone
Computer B Ubuntu X USB working with my phone

Computer A Ubuntu Y USB working with my phone
Computer B Ubuntu Y USB not working with my phone

Both computers where dual boot, windows had no problems at all.

Fully reproducible!
There was a lot more weirdness which I am not going to repeat again.
I switched to Mint which worked somewhat better but still has the same kind of problems today.

Edmund

>   Paul

--
The moment any organization established from pure noble intentions get some influence, it will be corrupted from both inside and outside.
Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

Edmund

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 by: Mike Easter - Sat, 13 May 2023 16:27 UTC

Edmund wrote:
> Computer A Ubuntu X USB not working with my phone Computer B Ubuntu
> X USB working with my phone
>
> Computer A Ubuntu Y USB working with my phone Computer B Ubuntu Y
> USB not working with my phone
>
> Both computers where dual boot, windows had no problems at all.
>
> Fully reproducible!

There's KDE Connect and alternatively GSConnect:

> KDE Connect is a multi-platform application developed by KDE, which
> facilitates wireless communications and data transfer between
> devices over local networks.[7][8][9][10][11] KDE Connect is
> available in the repositories of many Linux Distributions and
> F-Droid,[12] Google Play Store[13] for Android. Often, distributions
> bundle KDE Connect in their KDE Plasma desktop variant. KDE Connect
> has been reimplemented in the GNOME desktop environment as GSConnect,
> which can be obtained from Gnome Extension Store.

> Want to transfer that album with photos from the latest family trip
> or birthday party between your computer and smartphone? KDE Connect
> makes this easier than ever before. You can also browse your phone
> files remotely or quickly open a link on the other device.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Edmund - Sun, 14 May 2023 07:53 UTC

On 5/13/23 18:27, Mike Easter wrote:
> Edmund wrote:
>> Computer A Ubuntu X USB not working with my phone Computer B Ubuntu
>> X USB working with my phone
>>
>> Computer A Ubuntu Y USB working with my phone Computer B Ubuntu Y
>> USB not working with my phone
>>
>> Both computers where dual boot, windows had no problems at all.
>>
>> Fully reproducible!
>
> There's KDE Connect and alternatively GSConnect:
>
>> KDE Connect is a multi-platform application developed by KDE, which facilitates wireless communications and data transfer between
>> devices over local networks.[7][8][9][10][11] KDE Connect is
>> available in the repositories of many Linux Distributions and
>> F-Droid,[12] Google Play Store[13] for Android. Often, distributions
>> bundle KDE Connect in their KDE Plasma desktop variant. KDE Connect
>> has been reimplemented in the GNOME desktop environment as GSConnect,
>> which can be obtained from Gnome Extension Store.
>
>> Want to transfer that album with photos from the latest family trip
>> or birthday party between your computer and smartphone? KDE Connect
>> makes this easier than ever before. You can also browse your phone
>> files remotely or quickly open a link on the other device.

As I said before, I stay far away from K-stuff since it wrecked my
whole NON K system, K-stuff is not compatible with other DE's.
That is another thing I say for years, the DE insanity. More and more
different incompatible linux flavors, all with their own incompatible
repositories and on top of that different sometimes incompatible ( KDE) DE.

If I wanted to design a system to waste time and efficiency I couldn't
think of anything better then this.

I will look at GSConnect but I think we have to agree that the USB problems should
be long solved and we shouldn't need workarounds for it.

--
The moment any organization established from pure noble intentions get some influence, it will be corrupted from both inside and outside.
Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

Edmund

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 by: Mike Easter - Sun, 14 May 2023 08:57 UTC

Edmund wrote:
> I think we have to agree that the USB problems should
> be long solved and we shouldn't need workarounds for it.

I think you are blaming something on the concept of 'linux' when it is
more likely the fault of some non-compliant device, where 'compliance'
refers to industry standards.

Being a device mfr and being 'in bed with' MS people to help you make
your device compatible w/ a limited system such as MS's is not being a
smart mfr and buying such a product and profiting such a mfr is not good
for the linux community.

History is full of such device 'driver' stories, incl that of the linux
community 'knocking itself out' trying to 'back engineer' such problems
to resolve problems that shouldn't have been the problem of linux in the
first place.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Edmund - Sun, 14 May 2023 09:32 UTC

On 5/14/23 10:57, Mike Easter wrote:
> Edmund wrote:
>> I think we have to agree that the USB problems should
>> be long solved and we shouldn't need workarounds for it.
>
> I think you are blaming something on the concept of 'linux' when it is more likely the fault of some non-compliant device, where 'compliance' refers to industry standards.
>
> Being a device mfr and being 'in bed with' MS people to help you make your device compatible w/ a limited system such as MS's is not being a smart mfr and buying such a product and profiting such a mfr is not good for the linux community.
>
> History is full of such device 'driver' stories, incl that of the linux community 'knocking itself out' trying to 'back engineer' such problems to resolve problems that shouldn't have been the problem of linux in the first place.
>

Read back what I posted in this tread then you shouldn't have made this remark.
BTW I installed the GSConnect, it installed and is nowhere to be found and no info anywhere.
I does absolutely nothing in connecting the phone it still sucks as always.

--
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Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

Edmund

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On 5/14/23 4:57 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> Edmund wrote:
>> I think we have to agree that the USB problems should
>> be long solved and we shouldn't need workarounds for it.
>
> I think you are blaming something on the concept of 'linux' when it is
> more likely the fault of some non-compliant device, where 'compliance'
> refers to industry standards.
>
> Being a device mfr and being 'in bed with' MS people to help you make
> your device compatible w/ a limited system such as MS's is not being a
> smart mfr and buying such a product and profiting such a mfr is not
> good for the linux community.
>
> History is full of such device 'driver' stories, incl that of the
> linux community 'knocking itself out' trying to 'back engineer' such
> problems to resolve problems that shouldn't have been the problem of
> linux in the first place.
>
No doubt that all this confusion is based on m$ efforts to scuttle Linux.

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 by: Mike Easter - Sun, 14 May 2023 16:41 UTC

Edmund wrote:
> BTW I installed the GSConnect, it installed and is nowhere to be
> found and no info anywhere.

I have no personal experience using GSConnect or the better known KDE
Connect, but I read things.

In order to use GSConnect one needs a 'hook' between Gnome and a browser
such as Firefox on the computer end and an android app on the phone end.

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-use-gsconnect-for-android-integration-in-gnome

> KDEConnect has become the standard for interaction between Linux PCs
> and Android devices. IT can handle most tasks and does so very well.
>
> For GNOME users, this usually means installing a ton of KDE
> dependencies on their system. It’s clunky, and it doesn’t integrate
> well with their desktop of choice. GSConnect is a GNOME client for
> the KDEConnect app that allows you to access all of the same
> functionality without loading up on KDE components.

Personally, if I were doing that I would boot up a live KDE such as my
fave KDE Neon and see if I could get my phone to integrate w/ it before
I went off in the GS direction.

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Mike Easter

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