I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
Why is it not being offered?
Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
requirements.
Thanks,
Buffalo

On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
<phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:

>I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>Why is it not being offered?
>Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>requirements.
>Thanks,
>Buffalo

If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?

KenW

On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, Buffalo wrote:
>
> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
> Why is it not being offered?

This doesn't actually answer your question, but there are no
significant feature updates in 21H2, so you're not missing much. Do
you need to click something in Windows Update to display p[tional
updated? I did. 21H2 is an optional update, at least on my system.

> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
> requirements.

Neither is mine. But I don't understand how that could relate to a
Windows 10 update that doesn't install Windows 11.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

"KenW" wrote in message news:kb1k4h1ekcvqliggchb81fec3v5b05cnep@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
><phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>>even
>>though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>Why is it not being offered?
>>Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>requirements.
>>Thanks,
>>Buffalo
>
>If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>
>
>KenW
I'm not worried about going to Win 11 but I was wondering why 21H2 hasn't
been offer to my system since there is no higher hardware requirement than
21H1, which I have.
Thanks,
--
Buffalo

On 4/3/2022 3:51 PM, Buffalo wrote:
> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
> Why is it not being offered?
> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum requirements.
> Thanks,
> Buffalo

Have you used the "upgrade limiting" hack ?

The only problem with using things like this, is forgetting
later you have applied them. Then, the symptom set becomes
one of "own goal" :-) If you *have* used this style of
entry, then the TargetReleaseVersionInfo must be adjusted
to give permission to 21H2 to come in. The below just happens
to be set for what you want.

Specify_target_Feature_Update_version_to_21H2.reg <=== six line text file, as shown below
<=== keeps OS on Windows 10 21H2 as update path

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"ProductVersion"="Windows 10" <=== Name the OS wanted
"TargetReleaseVersion"=dword:00000001
"TargetReleaseVersionInfo"="21H2" <=== Name the target here

If you just download a Windows 10 DVD today, that should be 21H2
and can be used to do an Upgrade Install. Mount the downloaded ISO
by right clicking and using the context menu entry for ISO mounting,
then run Setup.exe off the virtual DVD drive that results from the
mounting attempt.

It's always a good idea to back up C: and friends, before doing these,
as belt and braces protection against surprises.

The purpose of the registry entries above is to "guide Windows 10 away
from a Windows 11 release". It's intended to state, in no uncertain
terms, that no attempt be made to move to Windows 11.

But it is also not a "software magnet". It makes the OS no more
attractive to acquiring Windows 10 21H2 either. If there is any
kind of "blocker" condition on the machine, then using the stanza
above does not help. It's not a "silent plea for an install".
Remember, that the user is never allowed to be in control!
Heaven forbid.

If the device is a tablet, it could be blocked for long
periods of time (not enough space). But on other device types,
like a desktop, the installer will go out of its way to
shoehorn an upgrade into limited disk space on C: . Like the
Windows 10 installer might tell me "this install requires a
minimum of an 85GB partition", when this is not true, and
if you click the button to continue, it will install in
a *lot* less. Like maybe 45GB is enough. It might turn off
hibernation (no C:\hiberfil.sys), to make it fit.

Download the DVD as an ISO file, then you can use the ISO
directly (no time wasted burning the DVD), or, you can burn
the DVD and run Setup.exe off the DVD.

The Windows Update upgrade path would be a lot faster,
but sometimes, you just have to grab that bull by the
horns and fix it. And the current DVD download, will
end all uncertainty. Even if it takes two hours to finish.

*******

You might check your Windows Update history, plus your winver,
and see if regular security updates are busted. A busted
Windows Update prevents both Cumulatives and Upgrades from
coming in. Some people visit here, like three OS versions out
of date. That's how long it's been since they examined the
History link in the Settings dialogs. It means their
Windows Update was busted for a couple years.

This tells me my toilet was still flushing a month ago :-)
I'm typing this on W11. You want to see last months Cumulative
installed, as "proof of working plumbing".

2022-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5011493)
Successfully installed on 3/9/2022

Paul

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
news:MPG.3cb3cd57d78dd52098fef8@news.individual.net...
>
>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, Buffalo wrote:
>>
>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>> even
>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>> Why is it not being offered?
>
>This doesn't actually answer your question, but there are no
>significant feature updates in 21H2, so you're not missing much. Do
>you need to click something in Windows Update to display p[tional
>updated? I did. 21H2 is an optional update, at least on my system.
>
>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>> requirements.
>
>Neither is mine. But I don't understand how that could relate to a
>Windows 10 update that doesn't install Windows 11.
>
I can't find where to select to load optional updates or not load them.
I will try to research that further.
Thanks,
--
Buffalo

"Buffalo" wrote in message news:t2djmf$ar6$1@dont-email.me...
>
>"Stan Brown" wrote in message
>news:MPG.3cb3cd57d78dd52098fef8@news.individual.net...
>>
>>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, Buffalo wrote:
>>>
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>>> even
>>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>
>>This doesn't actually answer your question, but there are no
>>significant feature updates in 21H2, so you're not missing much. Do
>>you need to click something in Windows Update to display p[tional
>>updated? I did. 21H2 is an optional update, at least on my system.
>>
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>> requirements.
>>
>>Neither is mine. But I don't understand how that could relate to a
>>Windows 10 update that doesn't install Windows 11.
>>
>I can't find where to select to load optional updates or not load them.
>I will try to research that further.
>Thanks,

I do NOT have that "View optimal update" message line under the "Check for
updates" message line.
--
Buffalo

You download
windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab

and you install with this command line :
DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package
/PackagePath:"windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab"

Buffalo avait prétendu :
> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
> Why is it not being offered?
> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
> requirements.
> Thanks,
> Buffalo

--
Alain

"Paul" wrote in message news:t2db3v$eok$1@dont-email.me...
>
>On 4/3/2022 3:51 PM, Buffalo wrote:
>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>> even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>> Why is it not being offered?
>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>> requirements.
>> Thanks,
>> Buffalo
>
>Have you used the "upgrade limiting" hack ?
>
>The only problem with using things like this, is forgetting
>later you have applied them. Then, the symptom set becomes
>one of "own goal" :-) If you *have* used this style of
>entry, then the TargetReleaseVersionInfo must be adjusted
>to give permission to 21H2 to come in. The below just happens
>to be set for what you want.
>
>Specify_target_Feature_Update_version_to_21H2.reg <=== six line text
>file, as shown below
> <=== keeps OS on
> Windows 10 21H2 as update path
>
>Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
>"ProductVersion"="Windows 10"
><=== Name the OS wanted
>"TargetReleaseVersion"=dword:00000001
>"TargetReleaseVersionInfo"="21H2"
><=== Name the target here
>
>If you just download a Windows 10 DVD today, that should be 21H2
>and can be used to do an Upgrade Install. Mount the downloaded ISO
>by right clicking and using the context menu entry for ISO mounting,
>then run Setup.exe off the virtual DVD drive that results from the
>mounting attempt.
>
>It's always a good idea to back up C: and friends, before doing these,
>as belt and braces protection against surprises.
>
>The purpose of the registry entries above is to "guide Windows 10 away
>from a Windows 11 release". It's intended to state, in no uncertain
>terms, that no attempt be made to move to Windows 11.
>
>But it is also not a "software magnet". It makes the OS no more
>attractive to acquiring Windows 10 21H2 either. If there is any
>kind of "blocker" condition on the machine, then using the stanza
>above does not help. It's not a "silent plea for an install".
>Remember, that the user is never allowed to be in control!
>Heaven forbid.
>
>If the device is a tablet, it could be blocked for long
>periods of time (not enough space). But on other device types,
>like a desktop, the installer will go out of its way to
>shoehorn an upgrade into limited disk space on C: . Like the
>Windows 10 installer might tell me "this install requires a
>minimum of an 85GB partition", when this is not true, and
>if you click the button to continue, it will install in
>a *lot* less. Like maybe 45GB is enough. It might turn off
>hibernation (no C:\hiberfil.sys), to make it fit.
>
>Download the DVD as an ISO file, then you can use the ISO
>directly (no time wasted burning the DVD), or, you can burn
>the DVD and run Setup.exe off the DVD.
>
>The Windows Update upgrade path would be a lot faster,
>but sometimes, you just have to grab that bull by the
>horns and fix it. And the current DVD download, will
>end all uncertainty. Even if it takes two hours to finish.
>
>*******
>
>You might check your Windows Update history, plus your winver,
>and see if regular security updates are busted. A busted
>Windows Update prevents both Cumulatives and Upgrades from
>coming in. Some people visit here, like three OS versions out
>of date. That's how long it's been since they examined the
>History link in the Settings dialogs. It means their
>Windows Update was busted for a couple years.
>
>This tells me my toilet was still flushing a month ago :-)
>I'm typing this on W11. You want to see last months Cumulative
>installed, as "proof of working plumbing".
>
> 2022-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems
> (KB5011493)
> Successfully installed on 3/9/2022
>
> Paul
>
Winver is 21H1
I still get cumulative updates and defender updates, etc
I did NOT use the "upgrade limiting" hack.
Thanks for your ideas.
I am using a PC (HP P7-1245 )` with 8GB or memory, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO
SSD, Win 10 64bit Home edition,Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
3.10 GHz. and an AMD HD 7750 vid card.
I guess I just won't worry about going to 21H2 at this time.
Thanks again,
--
Buffalo

"Xonic" wrote in message news:t2eph4$hu5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>
>You download
>windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab
>
>and you install with this command line :
>DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package
>/PackagePath:"windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab"
>
>Buffalo avait prétendu :
>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>> even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>> Why is it not being offered?
>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>> requirements.
>> Thanks,
>> Buffalo
>
Thanks for the info, instruction and the link.
I am still trying to decide if I should just wait for Windows Update or do
it your way, or just not worry about it.
Thanks again,
--
Buffalo

On 4/4/2022 11:14 AM, Buffalo wrote:
> "Xonic"  wrote in message news:t2eph4$hu5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>
>> You download
>> windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab
>>
>> and you install with this command line :
>> DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package
>> /PackagePath:"windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab"
>>
>>
>> Buffalo avait prétendu :
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered
>>> 21H2 even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a
>>> week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11
>>> minimum requirements.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Buffalo
>>
> Thanks for the info, instruction and the link.
> I am still trying to decide if I should just wait for Windows Update or
> do it your way, or just not worry about it.
> Thanks again,

I don't think anyone has really answered the key part of your question,
that being what is in 21H2 and do I need it over 21H1.
Here's a couple links that will give you some information you might find
helpful regarding what's new and what has been fixed.

<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-21h2>

<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/resolved-issues-windows-10-21h2>

"sticks" wrote in message news:t2fc2h$16b$1@dont-email.me...
>
>On 4/4/2022 11:14 AM, Buffalo wrote:
>> "Xonic" wrote in message news:t2eph4$hu5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>
>>> You download
>>> windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab
>>>
>>> and you install with this command line :
>>> DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package
>>> /PackagePath:"windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab"
>>>
>>> Buffalo avait prétendu :
>>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
>>>> even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11
>>>> minimum requirements.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Buffalo
>>>
>> Thanks for the info, instruction and the link.
>> I am still trying to decide if I should just wait for Windows Update or
>> do it your way, or just not worry about it.
>> Thanks again,
>
>I don't think anyone has really answered the key part of your question,
>that being what is in 21H2 and do I need it over 21H1.
>Here's a couple links that will give you some information you might find
>helpful regarding what's new and what has been fixed.
>
><https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-21h2>
>
><https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/resolved-issues-windows-10-21h2>

Thanks for the info.
I will check those links later today.
Enjoy,
--
Buffalo

On 4/4/2022 12:14 PM, Buffalo wrote:
> "Xonic"  wrote in message news:t2eph4$hu5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>
>> You download windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab
>>
>> and you install with this command line :
>> DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:"windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab"
>>
>> Buffalo avait prétendu :
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum requirements.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Buffalo
>>
> Thanks for the info, instruction and the link.
> I am still trying to decide if I should just wait for Windows Update or do it your way, or just not worry about it.
> Thanks again,

I think that's a perfectly reasonable recipe.

Things I would do:

1) Run winver first. Record the numbers for later, so you can
easily determine what happened.

2) Do a full backup of C: and friends. This is a safety backup
and if things go well, can be discarded soon after.

3) Try the DISM recipe.

Go to catalog.update.microsoft.com in your web browser and
search for "KB5003791". (Paul flips over to his browser for
a look-see.)

OK, so catalog doesn't like that number.

Yet, per the suggestion, that does seem to be the number.
We will be bobbing for apples. Teeth ready...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5003791-update-to-windows-10-version-21h2-by-using-an-enablement-package-8bc077be-18d7-4aac-81ce-6f6dad2cd384

And as expected, it has an SSU requirement. That means
there are two operations to do. You do the SSU first, and
having done so, then the attempt with the DISM "will not fail".

But I'm kinda stuck now, unless I can find that update, or, its successor.

OK. If this puppy is wrong, is the wrong "flavor", DISM will give me shit for it.

https://www.anoopcnair.com/upgrade-to-windows-10-21h2-using-kb5003791-sccm/

Windows 10 x64 –

http://b1.download.windowsupdate.com/c/upgr/2021/08/windows10.0-kb5003791-x64_b401cba483b03e20b2331064dd51329af5c72708.cab

Windows 10 x86 –

http://b1.download.windowsupdate.com/c/upgr/2021/08/windows10.0-kb5003791-x86_1bf1a29db06015e9deaefba26cf1f300e8ac18b8.cab

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4577266 14.5MB, the x64 one for me. Use "Download" button, on right.

Your machine could already be patched higher than this. I'm only
getting this, for a VM experiment without a network connection
to foul it up.

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5005565

2021-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 21H1 for x64-based Systems (KB5005565)
Windows 10, version 1903 and later Security Updates 9/22/2021 n/a 602.6 MB

OK, that'll take a few minutes. That will bring a virgin 19043 install to 19043.1237.

wusa.exe installs .msu files. (Double-clicking the .msu is usually enough, OK?)
DISM installs .cab files.

You could be missing one of these steps, which is why you did not
get yours. All it would take, is a missing SSU, to gate off the
Feature Enablement package.

I met some resistance to my test order, so in step (4)
I pull an ace out of my sleeve. (3) was not sufficient
to allow (5) to install, so I had to "go hunt for latest
SSU" as (4) so (5) would work. (5) takes quite a while!
In a VM, (5) goes faster if you iconify the window of the VM.

1) Clean VM
2) 19043 DVD
3) KB4577266 the 14.5MB SSU update 15,233,480 bytes Not enough!
4) KB5005260 a later SSU update 15,505,341 bytes
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=5005260
2021-08 Servicing Stack Update for Windows 10 Version 21H1 for x64-based Systems (KB5005260)
Windows 10, version 1903 and later Security Updates 8/9/2021 n/a 14.8 MB

5) KB5005565 19043.1237 for winver 631,889,716 bytes <=== Meat is in here ???
6) kb5003791 (If I done good, it'll start to run) 24,520 bytes <=== hilarious
7) Winver 19044.xxxx where xxxx is >1237

You likely don't need (3), but I need it due to starting at 19043.1 .

You could be missing (4) or Son-of-(4).

Alright, let's get that VM warmed up.

*******

Worked, but I had to hunt down and use (4) to do it.

[Picture] If the frame is blank, right-click and select "Reload"

https://i.postimg.cc/52CYkf4D/21-H2-the-easy-way.gif

Paul

On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 20:11:28 -0600, Buffalo wrote:
>
> "Buffalo" wrote in message news:t2djmf$ar6$1@dont-email.me...
> >
> I do NOT have that "View optimal update" message line under the "Check for
> updates" message line.

Are you sure you don't have 21H2 already?

Here is what I get when I open Settings, then Update and Security,
then Windows Update:

<https://BrownMath.com/ss/2022-04-04.jpg>

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

Buffalo <phoney@physco.invalid.net> posted this:

> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
> even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
> Why is it not being offered?
> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
> requirements.
> Thanks,
> Buffalo

You shouldn't worry about it because it's "likely as not" one of
Microsoft's illegal "algorithms" sleeping on the job. They tend to do that
when a newer OS is about to be released, IIRC. I had to force mine to
update to 21H2, but it was not a big deal. It was a little deal, but not
much. Mine too is not eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade because it uses
a BIOS instead of UEFI.

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10>

Click on the "Update now" button

"Save File"... to your [desktop]

Once it has finished downloading Run the Update assistant

The update assistant will pop up in a new window so you need to click on
"Update now"

It's a long-ish process, but when you're done, you can navigate to
"Settings" | "About" and check your status...

Doubt you'll notice much difference, BUT, it may have some effect down the
road as Windows 10 marches through future updates on its way to a peaceful
obsolescence.

Hope this helps.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.

On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
><phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>Why is it not being offered?
>>Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>requirements.
>>Thanks,
>>Buffalo
>
>If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>
>
>KenW

In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
tool this time round?

I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
compatible

On 7/22/22 10:29, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
>> <phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>> requirements.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Buffalo
>>
>> If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
> In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
> hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
> tool this time round?
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
> knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
> compatible

If you go into settings, M$ Updates, it will
"sometimes" tell you what went wrong.

And you can always download it manually. This is
the method I prefer as it negates corruptions.

I have had several customers with jammed 10 build
updates that I just downloaded the ISO, mounted
it, and upgraded from the ISO.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

There is a hardware check I like, but it is
for Windows 11:

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases
Scroll down to Assets:

If it passes 11, there is not reason 10 should
not work.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:29:18 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
>><phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>>though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>>Why is it not being offered?
>>>Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>>requirements.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Buffalo
>>
>>If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>>
>>
>>KenW
>
>In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
>hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
>tool this time round?
>
>I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
>knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
>compatible

https://windowsreport.com/pc-health-check-app-windows-11/

On 7/22/2022 1:57 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:29:18 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
>>> <phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>>> requirements.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Buffalo
>>>
>>> If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>>>
>>>
>>> KenW
>>
>> In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
>> hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
>> tool this time round?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
>> knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
>> compatible
>
>
> https://windowsreport.com/pc-health-check-app-windows-11/
Have you checked to Optional updates. Some of the latest updates, have
not appeared under the Update heading but are available as Optional updates.

The Horny Goat wrote:

> am running Win 10 ultimate now

I very much doubt that.

On 7/22/2022 1:29 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
>> <phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>> requirements.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Buffalo
>>
>> If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
> In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
> hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
> tool this time round?
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
> knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
> compatible

If you're running Windows 10 at the moment, there is already
a screen that casts a judgment upon you. It's in Windows Update
screen. The message size is quite different, so nobody tried
to make them look alike. I have two machines (on purpose), one
ready, one not ready.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/1RKTR6cy/Win10-builtin-prophet.gif

If you had VirtualBox 5, and the prophet said you could install,
well the install would stop and ask you to "remove VBox 5".
I replaced mine with VBox 6 and after that, the (upgrade) install of
Win11 finished. So while the prophet checks HW, it doesn't waste time
ferreting out conflicting software. That is left for later.

My IvyBridge-E machine is rejected for two reasons. No MBEC support in
processor (and MBEC is not an item in the ark.intel.com database).
Also, my machine has a TPM socket, but only a TPM 1.2 module
was offered and they're no longer made, and they will never make
a TPM 2.0 for that socket ("no market for it"). Whereas the
other machine, as a kind of joke for the Zen3 I asked "would
you have a TPM 2.0 module for that motherboard?". The clerk reaches
under the counter and pulls out a TPM 2.0 right on the spot.
Well, then I had to buy it :-) The Zen3 board has fTPM (that stutters),
as well as hardware TPM2.0 module (which does not stutter). I
got lucky by buying a module. There is a fix for the stutter problem,
so there's really no drama there, just a nuisance. You could quite
easily run without a $20 module.

Windows 10, in the Settings search if you type TPM, it will show a
TPM status screen. Naturally, on the IvyBridge box, the
window is devoid of good news. the other machine shows what
brand of module chip is in usage. The Zen3 board uses a serial TPM,
the IvyBridge socket is a 4 bit parallel (LPM) socket. There are
a ton of pinouts, all using different keying pins, to make
your buying experience pleasant. You need a good clerk, to keep
you out of trouble. I already knew there were three candidates
for my mobo, two of them wrong and won't fit. That's why the clerk
pulling one from under the counter like Houdini, and getting it right
without looking it up, was a shock. "Nothing up my sleeve.. oh, what's
this ? A TPM."

Paul

On 7/22/2022 3:39 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> The Horny Goat wrote:
>
>> am running Win 10 ultimate now
>
> I very much doubt that.

There is a mapping table, that maps "old name" to "new and feeble name".

Win 7 Home Basic \___ Win10 Home \___ Win11 Home
Win 7 Home Premium / /
Win 7 Pro \___ Win10 Pro \___ Win11 Pro
Win 7 Ultimate / /

Using winver command, it will be unlikely to emit anything
indicating "Ultimate" was the parent OS. Winver would
say "Home" or "Pro" as the new feeble name.

Home can also be known as "Core" or "" :-)
If there is no identifier at all, it could be Home.

There are lots of SKUs and the table is a lot
bigger than that. That section of the table is
just to illustrate a few common cases. An Ultimate
person is just a Pro now.

Scrolling down this table, will give a sampling of SKUs,
reminding you of some of the ones you forgot about. The
ARM entries might well be missing. Who knows what Win10-S
supports.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/memory/memory-limits-for-windows-releases

Paul

On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 16:27:59 -0700, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, Buffalo wrote:
>>
>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>> Why is it not being offered?
>
>This doesn't actually answer your question, but there are no
>significant feature updates in 21H2, so you're not missing much. Do
>you need to click something in Windows Update to display p[tional
>updated? I did. 21H2 is an optional update, at least on my system.
>
>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>> requirements.
>
>Neither is mine. But I don't understand how that could relate to a
>Windows 10 update that doesn't install Windows 11.

I'm running Win 10 Pro 64bit 21H1 and am not running WiFi nor Linux so
is there any reason to actually CONSIDER 21H2? From Microsoft's
description I'm doubtful.

The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:38:05 -0600, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:51:09 -0600, "Buffalo"
>> <phoney@physco.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2 even
>>> though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
>>> Why is it not being offered?
>>> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
>>> requirements.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Buffalo
>>
>> If your hardware is not up to Win 11 then why worry ?
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
> In previous OS releases Microsoft had an app for judging whether one's
> hardware would support the new release - is there a link for such a
> tool this time round?
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm good given the age of my gear but one never
> knows...am running Win 10 ultimate now so it's not minimally
> compatible
>
Nothing significant from 21H1 to 21H2 that would prevent installation.
Note: It's not unusual for some old devices to not be offered the latest
feature version/build. More common with older graphic drivers or
insufficient disk space even though functional on the existing installed
version.

There are multiple ways to achieve the feature version update is not
offered via Windows Update.
Download 21H2 via the MSFT Win10 download site Media Creation Tool
1. Create USB or DVD Media and run setup.exe
2. Create an ISO and mount the Iso and run setup.exe
3. Copy the entire contents of the USB or ISO - folders and files to a
blank folder on the device(if sufficient space a folder at the root
level on the C:\ drive)

In all of the above installs, do the following before running setup.exe
=> Disconnect any USB or Media Card devices(exclude disconnecting
mouse or keyboards if USB).
=> Temporarily disable any 3rd party AV/AM program(don't load/start
with Windows and turn off any related 'services'

Fyi...no such thing as Win10 Ultimate(Win7 was the last 'Ultimate'
edition). If your device was Win7 Ultimate and upgraded it would be
Win10 Pro.

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

Well, Bucky, I tried your suggestion and I now have 21H2.
It took almost 2 hrs from the time I started until I had all the upgrading
done, including the newer MS updates.
So far so good.
I will post back in another few days to see if anything got messed up doing
that.
This is the first time I followed your advice. since I never really trusted
your advice. :(
But now, things are still going well.
Thanks, I think!! :)
Buffalo

"Bucky Breeder" wrote in message
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Buffalo <phoney@physco.invalid.net> posted this:

> I am running Win10 Home 64bit 21H1 and I am have not been offered 21H2
> even though I manually check with Windows Update several times a week.
> Why is it not being offered?
> Should I even worry about it? My PC hardware is not up to Win 11 minimum
> requirements.
> Thanks,
> Buffalo

You shouldn't worry about it because it's "likely as not" one of
Microsoft's illegal "algorithms" sleeping on the job. They tend to do that
when a newer OS is about to be released, IIRC. I had to force mine to
update to 21H2, but it was not a big deal. It was a little deal, but not
much. Mine too is not eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade because it uses
a BIOS instead of UEFI.

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10>

Click on the "Update now" button

"Save File"... to your [desktop]

Once it has finished downloading Run the Update assistant

The update assistant will pop up in a new window so you need to click on
"Update now"

It's a long-ish process, but when you're done, you can navigate to
"Settings" | "About" and check your status...

Doubt you'll notice much difference, BUT, it may have some effect down the
road as Windows 10 marches through future updates on its way to a peaceful
obsolescence.

Hope this helps.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;

And *NO*, that is *NOT* a Jedi Light Saber I have in my pocket!

But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm happy to see you either.