On 2022-03-01 10:26 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 09:43:56 -0600, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-03-01 7:25 a.m., Paul wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2022 4:34 AM, wasbit wrote:
>>>> "NewsKrawler" <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:suoh96$3fqbd$1@paganini.bofh.team...
>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940517/windows-11-pro-require-microsoft-account-internet-connection
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll also need an internet connection during setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft says it's planning to update Windows 11 Pro so it will
>>>>> require an
>>>>> internet connection and a Microsoft Account during the initial setup
>>>>> phase.
>>>>> The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally
>>>>> added to
>>>>> Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won't be able to avoid Microsoft
>>>>> Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft has been increasingly pushing Windows users to use a Microsoft
>>>>> Account since Windows 10, and this new change to Windows 11 Pro won't
>>>>> sit
>>>>> well with many hoping to avoid Microsoft's data and telemetry
>>>>> gathering in
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/02/new-preview-build-adds-microsoft-account-requirement-to-windows-11-pro/
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll need a Microsoft account to set up future versions of Windows
>>>>> 11 Pro
>>>>>
>>>>> Tucked away toward the bottom of the changelog is one unwelcome
>>>>> addition:
>>>>> like the Home edition of Windows 11, the Pro version will now require an
>>>>> Internet connection and a Microsoft account during setup. In the current
>>>>> version of Windows 11, you could still create a local user account
>>>>> during
>>>>> setup by not connecting your PC to the Internet-something that also
>>>>> worked
>>>>> in the Home version of Windows 10 but was removed in 11. That workaround
>>>>> will no longer be available in either edition going forward, barring a
>>>>> change in Microsoft's plans.
>>>>
>>>> To get this thread somewhat back on track ...... I have just installed
>>>> Windows 11 on a laptop that has an i3 (M330) CPU, 4GB Ram with a local
>>>> account & no internet connection during the install.
>>>> No Windows authorisation though.
>>>> How? By following various tutorials on the internet.
>>>> Why? Just to see if it was possible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does it have a future ?
>>>
>>> Look at the right click File Explorer menu.
>>>
>>> Look at *Notepad*.
>>>
>>> Let's "test" W11 Notepad, on a random Tuesday.
>>>
>>> Does the insertion point stay around for more than 30 seconds ?
>>>
>>> Does the machine respond in a "stable" fashion when you load a 500MB
>>> text file ?
>>> For example, my cursor would not descend to the Task Bar, while that
>>> Notepad was open. Eventually, my mouse was able to descend all the
>>> way to the bottom of the screen again. Is that a denial of service
>>> attack by the machines own software ???
>>>
>>> Clicking in the Notepad window right now, just moving the insertion
>>> point on a 4.4GHz processor, takes about 20 seconds.
>>>
>>> Now, how can you release a piece of iTrash like that, after
>>> "fixing" Notepad so it actually works (a working Find/Replace!),
>>> in Windows 10 ?
>>>
>>> Does the OS have a future, if it has no quality control ?
>>>
>>> There are students in trade school who have written better
>>> text editing widgets.
>>>
>>> I would not accept garbage like this, if I was working
>>> in the QA department at my former employer. Why ? Because
>>> you had an implementation which was *miles* ahead, and
>>> you did all this for "rounded corners" ??? FFS.
>>>
>>> No matter what your business model, whether it's WaaS
>>> or SaaS Or PaaS, you at least have to put the effort into it.
>>>
>>> I'm a hardware guy. You can't have hardware, without software.
>>> That's how it works. With no software, it's a hood ornament.
>>>
>>>    Paul
>>
>> How about Notepad ++?
>> I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
>> little overwhelming with features at times.
>
> Same for me. I rarely need or use its features.
>

Also,s, everything you want to change is very hard to find in the
confusing preferences menus, It's really overkill for my needs.

Rene

Paul wrote:
>
> Look at *Notepad*.
>
> Let's "test" W11 Notepad, on a random Tuesday.
>
> Does the insertion point stay around for more than 30 seconds ?
>
> Does the machine respond in a "stable" fashion when you load a 500MB
> text file ?
> For example, my cursor would not descend to the Task Bar, while that
> Notepad was open. Eventually, my mouse was able to descend all the
> way to the bottom of the screen again. Is that a denial of service
> attack by the machines own software ???
>
> Clicking in the Notepad window right now, just moving the insertion
> point on a 4.4GHz processor, takes about 20 seconds.
>
>
> I'm a hardware guy. You can't have hardware, without software.
> That's how it works. With no software, it's a hood ornament.
>
>    Paul

Like others not much use for Notepad or Notepad++.
- the only time I've used it recently was a context 'Send to Notepad'
for an Intel graphics inf file.

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On 3/1/2022 10:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> How about Notepad ++?
>  I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a little overwhelming with features at times.
>
> Rene
>

My point is, "why ruin stuff?".

Sure, we can make an excuse for anything
and put lipstick on a pig, but why do it
in the first place ?

"Design Document"

1) Ruin Notepad
2) Ruin File Explorer right-click context menu
3) Ruin things randomly in the rolling release,
as the fancy strikes you. Did you implement
your ruination in the Fluent Design Language ?
Did you make sure there was emoji support ?
Did you double-check for rounded corners ? (Very important)
Good, Oh.

The situation has become as absurd as end-customers
being markers for student homework assignments.

There hasn't been a good text editor since BBEdit Lite (Brown Bag Software).

That was an example of a text editor that could load
a large file without shitting itself. I am "sick to death"
of watching text files take two minutes to load (at 4.4GHz!).
"Well, wait until the new 10GHz processors come out." Indeed.
Slack jaws for the win.

Paul

Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:
[...]

> How about Notepad ++?
> I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
> little overwhelming with features at times.

Who cares!? Real Men (TM) use vi[m]! :-)

On 2022-03-01 10:44 a.m., Paul wrote:
> On 3/1/2022 10:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>
>> How about Notepad ++?
>>   I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
>> little overwhelming with features at times.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>
> My point is, "why ruin stuff?".
>
> Sure, we can make an excuse for anything
> and put lipstick on a pig, but why do it
> in the first place ?
>
> "Design Document"
>
> 1) Ruin Notepad
> 2) Ruin File Explorer right-click context menu
> 3) Ruin things randomly in the rolling release,
>    as the fancy strikes you. Did you implement
>    your ruination in the Fluent Design Language ?
>    Did you make sure there was emoji support ?
>    Did you double-check for rounded corners ? (Very important)
>    Good, Oh.
>
> The situation has become as absurd as end-customers
> being markers for student homework assignments.
>
> There hasn't been a good text editor since BBEdit Lite (Brown Bag
> Software).
>
> That was an example of a text editor that could load
> a large file without shitting itself. I am "sick to death"
> of watching text files take two minutes to load (at 4.4GHz!).
> "Well, wait until the new 10GHz processors come out." Indeed.
> Slack jaws for the win.
>
>    Paul

Gotta agree with that, Windows is headed downhill like a snowball in
hell, I keep having to add 3rd party addons to keep it usable at all,
there are getting to be way too many Microsoft fuckups for my taste.

Rene

....w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> Like others not much use for Notepad or Notepad++.
> - the only time I've used it recently was a context 'Send to Notepad'
> for an Intel graphics inf file.

Same here. My main (low usage) use is to *view* files (logfiles,
configuration files, etc.) and (even lower usage) for copy-paste-ing
stuff. My only real use is as (the default) editor for the score-file
('killfile') of my personal News server.

(Now, how's *that* for irrelevant 'off-topic' blabbering!? :-))

"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote

| > How about Notepad ++?
| > � I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
little overwhelming with features at times.

| My point is, "why ruin stuff?".
|

Indeed. I actually use Notepad far more than any
other program. I use it as a notepad. I see an article I want
to save... I copy the text, paste it to Notepad, copy
the URL, paste that, then save it to a relevant folder
as TXT. Small, efficient, and readable. If I'm doing some
kind of coding I might have 5 Notepads with code snippets.

If I write a long email or essay, I do that in Notepad and
save regularly to the Desktop. I dopn't want TBird or
Libre Office crashing on me and losing my work. I suspect
the reason most people don't use Notepad is because they've
been trained to use MS Word, creating a 200 KB file with
a gigantic program to store .1 KB of text.

I also have N++, but I only use it for those 500 MB
text files you mentioned. The capacity is impressive. It can
handle anything fast. The coding functions and syntax
highlighting are a joke. It's one of those jack-of-all-trade
editors that claims to handle 50 languages, but only because
it provides a cursory colorcoding of keywords in those languages.
It's actually not even a real program, strictly speaking. It's just
a light wrapper around the OSS Scintilla editor window.

Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:
....
> Gotta agree with that, Windows is headed downhill like a snowball in
> hell, I keep having to add 3rd party addons to keep it usable at all,
> there are getting to be way too many Microsoft fuckups for my taste.

Yep. It's not just MS too. I see it with Apple, Google, Linux, etc. :(
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Frank Slootweg wrote:
> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Like others not much use for Notepad or Notepad++.
>> - the only time I've used it recently was a context 'Send to Notepad'
>> for an Intel graphics inf file.
>
> Same here. My main (low usage) use is to *view* files (logfiles,
> configuration files, etc.) and (even lower usage) for copy-paste-ing
> stuff. My only real use is as (the default) editor for the score-file
> ('killfile') of my personal News server.
>
> (Now, how's *that* for irrelevant 'off-topic' blabbering!? :-))
>
:)
Touche!

Nice.

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On Tue, 01 Mar 2022 09:26:29 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 09:43:56 -0600, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>How about Notepad ++?
>> I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
>>little overwhelming with features at times.
>
>Same for me. I rarely need or use its features.

I mostly use Notepad++ for its tab feature. I have about 2 dozen tabs
open (that have been open for 3-5 years) that contain information I
really don't want to lose, yet I've never bothered to save them as
individual files. I just close the program when I don't want it hanging
around, and when I relaunch it my tabs come back. That's a super nice
feature, but maybe only if you're lazy like me.

The other thing I primarily use it for is to 'diff' two files. Quite
often, I need to compare two or more files to see what has changed, and
Notepad++ makes that simple.

I especially like the Search function because it shows all of the lines
that contain a match, instead of just the next match. That lets me
scroll through the matched lines to find the one(s) that I want.

Lots of other stuff, as well, but if you don't need any of those things
they won't feel very valuable.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 08:25:36 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

>On 3/1/2022 4:34 AM, wasbit wrote:
>> To get this thread somewhat back on track ...... I have just installed Windows 11 on a laptop that has an i3 (M330) CPU, 4GB Ram with a local account & no internet connection during the install.
>> No Windows authorisation though.
>> How? By following various tutorials on the internet.
>> Why? Just to see if it was possible.
>>
>
>Does it have a future ?
>
>Look at the right click File Explorer menu.
>
>Look at *Notepad*.
>
>Let's "test" W11 Notepad, on a random Tuesday.
>
>Does the insertion point stay around for more than 30 seconds ?

Whenever I see a program option that says something like, "Hide cursor
when typing", I enable it. When you say 'insertion point', I assume you
mean the mouse pointer and there's no reason to leave that on the screen
when you're typing. If you're typing, you know where the insertion point
is - it's where your typing is appearing.

>Does the machine respond in a "stable" fashion when you load a 500MB text file ?

That's probably a valid complaint as a test case, but it's an (extreme)
edge case. Not too many people are going to be doing anything with a
500MB text file. In a previous life when I was tasked with writing test
plans for networking equipment, I'd include a few cases like that, but
I'd give them a weight of zero. I only used things like that to give the
vendors a hard time.

>For example, my cursor would not descend to the Task Bar, while that
>Notepad was open. Eventually, my mouse was able to descend all the
>way to the bottom of the screen again. Is that a denial of service
>attack by the machines own software ???
>
>Clicking in the Notepad window right now, just moving the insertion
>point on a 4.4GHz processor, takes about 20 seconds.
[snip]

"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in message
news:svl6sh$tit$1@dont-email.me...
> On 3/1/2022 4:34 AM, wasbit wrote:
>> "NewsKrawler" <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote in message
>> news:suoh96$3fqbd$1@paganini.bofh.team...
>>> https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940517/windows-11-pro-require-microsoft-account-internet-connection
>>> Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account
>>>
>>> You'll also need an internet connection during setup.
>>>
>>> Microsoft says it's planning to update Windows 11 Pro so it will require
>>> an
>>> internet connection and a Microsoft Account during the initial setup
>>> phase.
>>> The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added
>>> to
>>> Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won't be able to avoid Microsoft
>>> Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has been increasingly pushing Windows users to use a Microsoft
>>> Account since Windows 10, and this new change to Windows 11 Pro won't
>>> sit
>>> well with many hoping to avoid Microsoft's data and telemetry gathering
>>> in
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/02/new-preview-build-adds-microsoft-account-requirement-to-windows-11-pro/
>>> You'll need a Microsoft account to set up future versions of Windows 11
>>> Pro
>>>
>>> Tucked away toward the bottom of the changelog is one unwelcome
>>> addition:
>>> like the Home edition of Windows 11, the Pro version will now require an
>>> Internet connection and a Microsoft account during setup. In the current
>>> version of Windows 11, you could still create a local user account
>>> during
>>> setup by not connecting your PC to the Internet-something that also
>>> worked
>>> in the Home version of Windows 10 but was removed in 11. That workaround
>>> will no longer be available in either edition going forward, barring a
>>> change in Microsoft's plans.
>>
>> To get this thread somewhat back on track ...... I have just installed
>> Windows 11 on a laptop that has an i3 (M330) CPU, 4GB Ram with a local
>> account & no internet connection during the install.
>> No Windows authorisation though.
>> How? By following various tutorials on the internet.
>> Why? Just to see if it was possible.
>>
>
> Does it have a future ?
>
> Look at the right click File Explorer menu.
>
> Look at *Notepad*.
>
> Let's "test" W11 Notepad, on a random Tuesday.
>
> Does the insertion point stay around for more than 30 seconds ?
>
> Does the machine respond in a "stable" fashion when you load a 500MB text
> file ?
> For example, my cursor would not descend to the Task Bar, while that
> Notepad was open. Eventually, my mouse was able to descend all the
> way to the bottom of the screen again. Is that a denial of service
> attack by the machines own software ???
>
> Clicking in the Notepad window right now, just moving the insertion
> point on a 4.4GHz processor, takes about 20 seconds.
>
> Now, how can you release a piece of iTrash like that, after
> "fixing" Notepad so it actually works (a working Find/Replace!),
> in Windows 10 ?
>
> Does the OS have a future, if it has no quality control ?
>
> There are students in trade school who have written better
> text editing widgets.
>
> I would not accept garbage like this, if I was working
> in the QA department at my former employer. Why ? Because
> you had an implementation which was *miles* ahead, and
> you did all this for "rounded corners" ??? FFS.
>
> No matter what your business model, whether it's WaaS
> or SaaS Or PaaS, you at least have to put the effort into it.
>
> I'm a hardware guy. You can't have hardware, without software.
> That's how it works. With no software, it's a hood ornament.
>

Another reason is familiarisation. At some point in the future a friend or
family member is going to ask how to fix something in Windows 11 & I won't
have a clue what to do. Only by trial & error did I find that the start
button has now moved to the task bar & that it requires a right click.

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"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in message
news:svligv$r0p$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 3/1/2022 10:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>
>> How about Notepad ++?
>> I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
>> little overwhelming with features at times.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>
> My point is, "why ruin stuff?".
>
> Sure, we can make an excuse for anything
> and put lipstick on a pig, but why do it
> in the first place ?
>
> "Design Document"
>
> 1) Ruin Notepad
> 2) Ruin File Explorer right-click context menu
> 3) Ruin things randomly in the rolling release,
> as the fancy strikes you. Did you implement
> your ruination in the Fluent Design Language ?
> Did you make sure there was emoji support ?
> Did you double-check for rounded corners ? (Very important)
> Good, Oh.
>
> The situation has become as absurd as end-customers
> being markers for student homework assignments.
>
> There hasn't been a good text editor since BBEdit Lite (Brown Bag
> Software).
>
> That was an example of a text editor that could load
> a large file without shitting itself. I am "sick to death"
> of watching text files take two minutes to load (at 4.4GHz!).
> "Well, wait until the new 10GHz processors come out." Indeed.
> Slack jaws for the win.
>

You know why. It's to eventually get everything on line so that they can
charge for it.
Uses are being groomed so that they don't all leave when the change comes.

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"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:svlu8v$phb$1@dont-email.me...
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
>
> | > How about Notepad ++?
> | > Â I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
> little overwhelming with features at times.
>
> | My point is, "why ruin stuff?".
> |
>
> Indeed. I actually use Notepad far more than any
> other program. I use it as a notepad. I see an article I want
> to save... I copy the text, paste it to Notepad, copy
> the URL, paste that, then save it to a relevant folder
> as TXT. Small, efficient, and readable. If I'm doing some
> kind of coding I might have 5 Notepads with code snippets.
>
> If I write a long email or essay, I do that in Notepad and
> save regularly to the Desktop. I dopn't want TBird or
> Libre Office crashing on me and losing my work. I suspect
> the reason most people don't use Notepad is because they've
> been trained to use MS Word, creating a 200 KB file with
> a gigantic program to store .1 KB of text.
>
> I also have N++, but I only use it for those 500 MB
> text files you mentioned. The capacity is impressive. It can
> handle anything fast. The coding functions and syntax
> highlighting are a joke. It's one of those jack-of-all-trade
> editors that claims to handle 50 languages, but only because
> it provides a cursory colorcoding of keywords in those languages.
> It's actually not even a real program, strictly speaking. It's just
> a light wrapper around the OSS Scintilla editor window.
>

+1
I use Notepad for practically everything but Wordpad for letters with a
premade letter template.

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wasbit

On 3/2/2022 4:44 AM, wasbit wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:svligv$r0p$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 3/1/2022 10:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>
>>> How about Notepad ++?
>>>   I have it on my system and use it once in a while, but it seems a
>>> little overwhelming with features at times.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>
>> My point is, "why ruin stuff?".
>>
>> Sure, we can make an excuse for anything
>> and put lipstick on a pig, but why do it
>> in the first place ?
>>
>> "Design Document"
>>
>> 1) Ruin Notepad
>> 2) Ruin File Explorer right-click context menu
>> 3) Ruin things randomly in the rolling release,
>>    as the fancy strikes you. Did you implement
>>    your ruination in the Fluent Design Language ?
>>    Did you make sure there was emoji support ?
>>    Did you double-check for rounded corners ? (Very important)
>>    Good, Oh.
>>
>> The situation has become as absurd as end-customers
>> being markers for student homework assignments.
>>
>> There hasn't been a good text editor since BBEdit Lite (Brown Bag
>> Software).
>>
>> That was an example of a text editor that could load
>> a large file without shitting itself. I am "sick to death"
>> of watching text files take two minutes to load (at 4.4GHz!).
>> "Well, wait until the new 10GHz processors come out." Indeed.
>> Slack jaws for the win.
>>
>
> You know why. It's to eventually get everything on line so that they can
> charge for it.
> Uses are being groomed so that they don't all leave when the change comes.

I suppose that's one of the reasons I am careful not to store any files
on an MS server. Of course, there are other reasons too.

On 2022-03-01, wasbit <wasbitRemove@hotmailt.com> wrote:
> To get this thread somewhat back on track ...... I have just installed
> Windows 11 on a laptop that has an i3 (M330) CPU, 4GB Ram with a local
> account & no internet connection during the install.
> No Windows authorisation though.
> How? By following various tutorials on the internet.
> Why? Just to see if it was possible.

Against my better judgement I recently set up a friend's new PC that
came with Windows 11 Home. I was able to do it without using a Microsoft
account, though it did initially need an internet connection. Once the
internet connection was detected I pulled the network cable and setup just
prompted to set up a local account. No any badgering about a Microsoft
account. (I plugged the network cable back in after setup was done.)

Still don't care for working with the OS though, and it would not
surprise me to see MS close that loophole at some point.

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On 2022-03-01, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Yep. It's not just MS too. I see it with Apple, Google, Linux, etc. :(

At least with Linux or BSD you have some choices. I don't use Microsoft,
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On 2022-03-01, Mayayana <mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Indeed. I actually use Notepad far more than any
> other program. I use it as a notepad.

Notepad is very handy to have when working with Windows systems. Will
Windows 10 Notepad run on Windows 11 if you copy the executable file over?

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On 3/2/2022 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2022-03-01, Mayayana <mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>> Indeed. I actually use Notepad far more than any
>> other program. I use it as a notepad.
>
> Notepad is very handy to have when working with Windows systems. Will
> Windows 10 Notepad run on Windows 11 if you copy the executable file over?
>

OS specific blocking is possible.

That's why editing some legacy games (Solitaire), requires
about four bytes of edits to the file header. There is a
100MB installer package, with modified files for the purpose
(someone has edited the headers for you).

Doing such things to signed software, would not work.

You can try moving the Notepad, but maybe not a Notepad from
a 19044 OS, as the release of the 22000 W11 version, may have
impressed on the staff the need to mark other Notepads to
prevent moving it.

Paul

On 2022-03-02 11:34 p.m., Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2022-03-01, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Yep. It's not just MS too. I see it with Apple, Google, Linux, etc. :(
>
> At least with Linux or BSD you have some choices. I don't use Microsoft,
> Apple, or Google products (aside from the occasional youtube video) and
> have no login accounts with any of them.

I notice that Apple has already pulled itself out of Russia. I was
thinking that if Microsoft were to do something ridiculous like refuse
to sell to Russians as well, it might just push the country into
adopting Linux as pretty much the only thing going. I know that ReactOS
developers were looking for Russian state support though.

Does anyone have the exact details as to whether it is still possible to
buy Apple products and Windows licenses in the country?

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"Roger Blake" <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote

| Notepad is very handy to have when working with Windows systems. Will
| Windows 10 Notepad run on Windows 11 if you copy the executable file over?

I haven't tried Win11. I just checked a Notepad
instance on XP with Spy++ and see that it's as simple
as it could be. Just an "Edit" class system window with
a menu bar. Which means there may be lots of
Notepad clones out there as free software. It would
be among the most simple programs to write.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:58:53 -0600, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>>It just meant, that those who needed it, paid commercial prices.
>
>I have to remember that you're talking about Canadian dollars, but even
>so the difference is dramatic. Somewhere around 1998-1999 I was asked by
>a client to get a quote for a full T1 and a full T3 (DS1 and DS3,
>respectively). The T1 was $300 a month and I think the T3 was $700 a
>month. $7000 for a fractional T1 seems excessive. Of course, these days
>there might not even be a market for such things. The last time I worked
>with a client who had a dedicated circuit was about 2003, +-. Since
>then, everyone seems to be using business connections w/SLA from
>well-known ISPs, frequently multiple ISPs where I get to configure link
>load balancing, redundancy, and failover.

Don't know what they were paying for their telecom costs but I was
involved in a conversion effort in the late 80s where a hospital in NE
New Brunswick moved their system off a site based at Queens Park in
Toronto.

As the rookie on the project I got to write the program that converted
their old system to the new one for roughly 1/4 million medical
records which was dumped to 9 track tape in Toronto, I had to carry an
aluminum box containing about 8-9 of these tapes (no my bosses did NOT
tell me the data center where I had to pick them up was in the center
of a red light district after dark meaning I got hustled crossing the
street from my car to the data center and back) then had to be on a 6
am flight the next morning to New Brunswick where they fed me
breakfast and then said "sorry we're going to need you around 3-3:30
so catch as much sleep as you can.....

I remember installing equipment in their neonatal ICU when my wife was
7 months pregnant with our first and praying 'oh Lord don't let our
little one look like these...' before remembering 'gee well maybe I
should say a word for these poor kids too!'

Good times.....

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:46:28 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
wrote:

>For the price, they probably could have lashed together a
>hundred AOL CDs, and got a better rate :-)

I remember those - we used to save them and use them for frisbees...

The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:46:28 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> For the price, they probably could have lashed together a
>> hundred AOL CDs, and got a better rate :-)
>
> I remember those - we used to save them and use them for frisbees...
>
AOL CD's - Krazy/Super-glued very nicely to clay pigeons.
Extra variable for seeing - reflection from sun

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On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 09:44:00 -0000, "wasbit"
<wasbitRemove@hotmailt.com> wrote:

>"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in message
>news:svligv$r0p$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 3/1/2022 10:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>> That was an example of a text editor that could load
>> a large file without shitting itself. I am "sick to death"
>> of watching text files take two minutes to load (at 4.4GHz!).
>> "Well, wait until the new 10GHz processors come out." Indeed.
>> Slack jaws for the win.
>
>You know why. It's to eventually get everything on line so that they can
>charge for it.
>Uses are being groomed so that they don't all leave when the change comes.

Which is why I still use Office 2010 Student + Teachers Edition and
haven't gone to 13, 16, 19 or gawd help us 365.

It does what I need it to do - which is basic text editting and
extremely well - and I have no interest in mailing lists or the sort
of thing that enchants legal secretaries.

And no I DON'T still drive that 1962 Valiant station wagon I drove
long ago....