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* Grounded!Ant
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 by: Ant - Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:08 UTC

https://store.steampowered.com/app/962130/Grounded/

Ha, now this is MY game. Steam has a free weekend right now. It's cute
and has biological bugs like me. Honey, who shrunk me? ;)
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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Fri, 11 Feb 2022 21:23 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:08:36 -0600, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/962130/Grounded/
>
>Ha, now this is MY game. Steam has a free weekend right now. It's cute
>and has biological bugs like me. Honey, who shrunk me? ;)

I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things. If you want
me to play your game, offer it at a price I'll pay (or, preferably,
free, but I get why /that/ option isn't as appealing to publishers
;-), but don't expect me to fall for your marketing gimmick.

Having said that, "Grounded" isn't the sort of game that would attract
me anyway. The whole 'incredible shrinking man' genre has never been
all that exciting to me, and combine that with 'survival', 'early
access' and 'Obsidian Entertainment' and there's little to draw me in.

(I know, 'Obsidian Entertainment' is the darling of many gamers, but
none of their games - "Knights of the Old Republic 2", "Fallout New
Vegas", "Alpha Protocol", "The Outer Worlds" - have really satisfied
me. I just don't like their style. If you do, that's great but their
name attached to a project is more a red flag than a sign of quality
to me).

So I think I'll skip this one. Anyway, even if I did claim it, in a
couple days it would vanish from my library anyway, so what's the
point? ;-)

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 by: Mike S. - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 01:54 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:23:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
>it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
>short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
>experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things.

That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.

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 by: Justisaur - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 02:54 UTC

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:54:55 PM UTC-8, Mike S. wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:23:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
> <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
> >it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
> >short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
> >experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things.
> That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
> attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.

I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is. If I
think I might be interested, I'll give it a try. I've done a lot of free weekends.
It's saved me a lot of money on games I thought I would like but didn't. :)

This one looks mildly interesting. However base building, and
especially early access tend to turn me off, so skipping it this time.

- Justisaur

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 by: Justisaur - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 03:00 UTC

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:23:53 PM UTC-8, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:08:36 -0600, a...@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/962130/Grounded/
> >
> >Ha, now this is MY game. Steam has a free weekend right now. It's cute
> >and has biological bugs like me. Honey, who shrunk me? ;)
> I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
> it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
> short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
> experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things. If you want
> me to play your game, offer it at a price I'll pay (or, preferably,
> free, but I get why /that/ option isn't as appealing to publishers
> ;-), but don't expect me to fall for your marketing gimmick.
>
> Having said that, "Grounded" isn't the sort of game that would attract
> me anyway. The whole 'incredible shrinking man' genre has never been
> all that exciting to me, and combine that with 'survival', 'early
> access' and 'Obsidian Entertainment' and there's little to draw me in.
>
> (I know, 'Obsidian Entertainment' is the darling of many gamers, but
> none of their games - "Knights of the Old Republic 2", "Fallout New
> Vegas", "Alpha Protocol", "The Outer Worlds" - have really satisfied
> me. I just don't like their style. If you do, that's great but their
> name attached to a project is more a red flag than a sign of quality
> to me).

Oddly the only one of those I liked was The Outer Worlds... which I
bought partially on their reputation. I liked South Park: The Stick
of Truth too. I'm not even much into South Park, but I've watched
it.

- Justisaur

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 by: JAB - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:38 UTC

On 12/02/2022 02:54, Justisaur wrote:
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:54:55 PM UTC-8, Mike S. wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:23:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
>> <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
>>> it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
>>> short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
>>> experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things.
>> That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
>> attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.
>
> I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is. If I
> think I might be interested, I'll give it a try. I've done a lot of free weekends.
> It's saved me a lot of money on games I thought I would like but didn't. :)
>
> This one looks mildly interesting. However base building, and
> especially early access tend to turn me off, so skipping it this time.
>

That saves me making a post saying basically the same thing!

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 by: Rin Stowleigh - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 11:20 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:54:48 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:54:55 PM UTC-8, Mike S. wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:23:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
>> <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
>> >it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
>> >short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
>> >experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things.
>> That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
>> attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.
>
>I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is. If I
>think I might be interested, I'll give it a try. I've done a lot of free weekends.
>It's saved me a lot of money on games I thought I would like but didn't. :)
>
>This one looks mildly interesting. However base building, and
>especially early access tend to turn me off, so skipping it this time.
>
>- Justisaur

I look at it like if they want me to demo the software in hopes I'll
make a purchase, they sure as fuck better not tell me "you've only got
two days to try the demo".

Otherwise it goes on my wishlist, waiting as long as necessary to pick
it up for a fiver.

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 by: Mike S. - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:03 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:54:48 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is.

Which explains why I don't like them then if that is true as I do not
like demos either.

I don't want a piece of the game. I don't want some arbitrary limit on
how long I can try it for. Steam reviews and lets plays on youtube are
all the 'demo' I need. I can tell if I want a game from that alone.

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:54:48 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
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>On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:54:55 PM UTC-8, Mike S. wrote:

>> That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
>> attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.

>I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is.

I have no problems with demos. I do have a problem with time-limited
demos. It's a high-pressure marketing tactic; 'You only have so long
until its gone so get it now!' and that sort of thing just doesn't fly
with me. You want me to demo your game? Put out a demo and let me play
at my own time and my own pace, and come to my own decision. Don't
artificially create scarcity because you know I'm more likely to make
an unwise decision when there are time constraints.

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 by: Ant - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:03 UTC

Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:54:55 PM UTC-8, Mike S. wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:23:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
> > <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I dislike 'free weekends' and other time-limited demonstrations. Sure,
> > >it arguably lets me play an entire game for free (assuming it's really
> > >short or I rush through it) but it adds more pressure to the
> > >experience than I like. So I generally avoid the things.
> > That is exactly how I feel about it. On sale or free gets my
> > attention. Time limited games I just ignore completely.

> I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is. If I
> think I might be interested, I'll give it a try. I've done a lot of free weekends.
> It's saved me a lot of money on games I thought I would like but didn't. :)

A big long demo if you play a lot. :P At least you can continue with your saved progresses unlike old days of
limited outdated demos.

> This one looks mildly interesting. However base building, and
> especially early access tend to turn me off, so skipping it this time.

Early access is weird since it had been out for years and it looks polished!
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 by: Ant - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:07 UTC

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:54:48 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
> <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

> >I just consider it a free demo, which is pretty much what it is.

> Which explains why I don't like them then if that is true as I do not
> like demos either.

> I don't want a piece of the game. I don't want some arbitrary limit on
> how long I can try it for. Steam reviews and lets plays on youtube are
> all the 'demo' I need. I can tell if I want a game from that alone.

I do too, but sometimes playing on your computer is not what were shown. :(
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On 13/02/2022 08:03, Ant wrote:
[snip]

>> This one looks mildly interesting. However base building, and
>> especially early access tend to turn me off, so skipping it this time.
>
> Early access is weird since it had been out for years and it looks polished!

Early access makes me a bit wary but a lot of it depends on where the
devs. are in the development life-cycle and what sort of game it is. So
two games I have bought in early access are UBoat and Gloomhaven. They
were both in a state where there was enough to play it as a game and the
content that was going to be added didn't mean you'd have to pretty
start from scratch and play through the same portion of the game again.

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