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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>
>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>
>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>> media to give files to someone else.
>
>Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.

I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time, that has all
my files backed up to it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00

I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.

--
Joel Crump

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 11:48:01 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>
>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>
>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>
>
> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time, that has all
> my files backed up to it.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00
>
> I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.

How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>
>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time, that has all
>> my files backed up to it.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00
>>
>> I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.
>
>How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.

It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
indicate a problem.

--
Joel Crump

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:39:09 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>>
>>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time, that has all
>>> my files backed up to it.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00
>>>
>>> I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.
>>
>> How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.
>
> It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
> used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
> indicate a problem.

Micro centre? Never heard of them. I'd trust something like Kingston, but I've bought "Kingston" drives that someone's just etched the logo onto. The Chinese are getting clever.

I've bought 1 and 2TB drives from $7 to $20 and none have exceeded 64GB. Quite fun actually, I've gone through 50 of them now, costing them a fortune, I always get my money back and usually get to keep the (smaller) drive due to post to China costing ten times as much as post from China (government subsidy on their side).

At 150GB you're probably safe, if you've actually read that data and it's ok. The fake ones let you write the full capacity, but the files either disappear or are unreadable.

Software called h2testw will scan the whole drive to check it.
Mydiskfix will take the number of good sectors from the first program and adjust the partition precisely so you don't use the faulty bit.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 12:07 UTC

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.
>>
>> It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
>> used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
>> indicate a problem.
>
>Micro centre? Never heard of them.

It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
the years.

> I'd trust something like Kingston, but I've bought "Kingston" drives that someone's just etched the logo onto. The Chinese are getting clever.
>
>I've bought 1 and 2TB drives from $7 to $20 and none have exceeded 64GB. Quite fun actually, I've gone through 50 of them now, costing them a fortune, I always get my money back and usually get to keep the (smaller) drive due to post to China costing ten times as much as post from China (government subsidy on their side).

Sounds like you're dealing with pretty shady retailers.

>At 150GB you're probably safe, if you've actually read that data and it's ok. The fake ones let you write the full capacity, but the files either disappear or are unreadable.

There's nothing to indicate a problem.

>Software called h2testw will scan the whole drive to check it.
>Mydiskfix will take the number of good sectors from the first program and adjust the partition precisely so you don't use the faulty bit.

Even if it were not reliable, I have an older external hard drive with
backups, and my old computer's SATA SSD has the files I had before
switching to this computer, in its Linux storage.

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 13:07:25 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.
>>>
>>> It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
>>> used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
>>> indicate a problem.
>>
>> Micro centre? Never heard of them.
>
> It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
> parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
> the years.

Oh, you said brand, I thought you meant manufacturer. Anyway the link you sent me was Amazon.

>> I'd trust something like Kingston, but I've bought "Kingston" drives that someone's just etched the logo onto. The Chinese are getting clever.
>>
>> I've bought 1 and 2TB drives from $7 to $20 and none have exceeded 64GB. Quite fun actually, I've gone through 50 of them now, costing them a fortune, I always get my money back and usually get to keep the (smaller) drive due to post to China costing ten times as much as post from China (government subsidy on their side).
>
> Sounds like you're dealing with pretty shady retailers.

Every bloody retailer is shady.

>> At 150GB you're probably safe, if you've actually read that data and it's ok. The fake ones let you write the full capacity, but the files either disappear or are unreadable.
>
> There's nothing to indicate a problem.

Unless you've tried to read the data back, you wouldn't know.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>>> How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.
>>>>
>>>> It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
>>>> used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
>>>> indicate a problem.
>>>
>>> Micro centre? Never heard of them.
>>
>> It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
>> parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
>> the years.
>
>Oh, you said brand, I thought you meant manufacturer. Anyway the link you sent me was Amazon.

Yes, Micro Center has some products on Amazon, which is where I bought
the USB drive from, but there is also a physical Micro Center store in
my area.

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 13:26:16 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> How much did you pay for it? And have you tested it fully? A lot of them work perfectly up to a point (in capacity) then the data just falls off. Eg. it says 512GB on the tin, but if you store anything past the 64GB mark , you find it's really a 64GB drive. Do not trust the Orient.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was $40, it's from a brand I trust. It has a little over 150 GB
>>>>> used, which isn't more than half the space, but there was nothing to
>>>>> indicate a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Micro centre? Never heard of them.
>>>
>>> It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
>>> parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
>>> the years.
>>
>> Oh, you said brand, I thought you meant manufacturer. Anyway the link you sent me was Amazon.
>
> Yes, Micro Center has some products on Amazon, which is where I bought
> the USB drive from, but there is also a physical Micro Center store in
> my area.

I assume Micro Centre is a shop, not a manufacturer. I want to know who actually makes what I'm buying.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>>> Micro centre? Never heard of them.
>>>>
>>>> It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
>>>> parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
>>>> the years.
>>>
>>> Oh, you said brand, I thought you meant manufacturer. Anyway the link you sent me was Amazon.
>>
>> Yes, Micro Center has some products on Amazon, which is where I bought
>> the USB drive from, but there is also a physical Micro Center store in
>> my area.
>
>I assume Micro Centre is a shop, not a manufacturer. I want to know who actually makes what I'm buying.

It's a shop, but it's also a brand, in this case. Some of their stuff
is made to be sold as a store brand. The same is true of my
computer's case, it's Newegg's store brand.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Thu, 19 May 2022 13:49 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 14:43:47 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Micro centre? Never heard of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not unlike Newegg, but they have physical stores. I bought the
>>>>> parts for my old computer there, as well as a lot of other stuff over
>>>>> the years.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, you said brand, I thought you meant manufacturer. Anyway the link you sent me was Amazon.
>>>
>>> Yes, Micro Center has some products on Amazon, which is where I bought
>>> the USB drive from, but there is also a physical Micro Center store in
>>> my area.
>>
>> I assume Micro Centre is a shop, not a manufacturer. I want to know who actually makes what I'm buying.
>
> It's a shop, but it's also a brand, in this case. Some of their stuff
> is made to be sold as a store brand. The same is true of my
> computer's case, it's Newegg's store brand.

No, it's another manufacturer with a Micro Centre label on it. I got my mother a hob with John Lewis on it. But it's made by Zanussi.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 13:58 UTC

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> I assume Micro Centre is a shop, not a manufacturer. I want to know who actually makes what I'm buying.
>>
>> It's a shop, but it's also a brand, in this case. Some of their stuff
>> is made to be sold as a store brand. The same is true of my
>> computer's case, it's Newegg's store brand.
>
>No, it's another manufacturer with a Micro Centre label on it. I got my mother a hob with John Lewis on it. But it's made by Zanussi.

If Micro Center is putting their name on the product, that gives me
some assurance that it's worth buying, though. I found a great price
on it, and trusted it would work.

--
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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 19 May 2022 15:24 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>
>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>
>>Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>
>
>I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,

That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
much lager than that.

As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
here.

> that has all
>my files backed up to it.

Dangerous, as far as I'm concerned. A virus attack could destroy
everything on all attached drives. And if your computer is stolen, the
thief is likely to also take everything plugged in.

>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00
>
>I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.

The largest thumb drive I have is 128GB, but I have another dozen or
so smaller thumb drives.

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 by: rabidR04CH - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:02 UTC

On 2022-05-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>>
>>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>>
>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>
>>
>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,
>
> That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
> many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
> much lager than that.
>
> As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
> Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
> says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
> drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
> that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
> here.

As far as I know, he suggested that thumb drives don't store anything
over the first 64GB regardless of what they claim. As far as I know,
this is only true of disreputable brands. When I had a 128GB thumb drive
made by Kingston, it worked just fine and storage more than 64GB regularly.

>
>> that has all
>> my files backed up to it.
>
> Dangerous, as far as I'm concerned. A virus attack could destroy
> everything on all attached drives. And if your computer is stolen, the
> thief is likely to also take everything plugged in.

Agreed wholeheartedly here. He must have absolute trust in his anti-virus.

>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H2ZKCC6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00
>>
>> I also have a few smaller ones for making OS installers.
>
> The largest thumb drive I have is 128GB, but I have another dozen or
> so smaller thumb drives.

I'Ve retired most of mine since they were never all too reliable anyway.
They're still in my bag in case I want to put a Linux ISO onto one and
boot onto it to try it out but I much prefer direct and cloud storage
for convenience. I know the cloud storage isn't safe, but it encrypts by
default so I'm not too worried.

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Encrypt. Avoid social media. Stay sane.
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 by: Commander Kinsey - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:02 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 14:58:05 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I assume Micro Centre is a shop, not a manufacturer. I want to know who actually makes what I'm buying.
>>>
>>> It's a shop, but it's also a brand, in this case. Some of their stuff
>>> is made to be sold as a store brand. The same is true of my
>>> computer's case, it's Newegg's store brand.
>>
>> No, it's another manufacturer with a Micro Centre label on it. I got my mother a hob with John Lewis on it. But it's made by Zanussi.
>
> If Micro Center is putting their name on the product, that gives me
> some assurance that it's worth buying, though. I found a great price
> on it, and trusted it would work.

How do you know it was them that put their name on it? I've got an HP USB stick here that failed. I doubt HP made it.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:15 UTC

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>> If Micro Center is putting their name on the product, that gives me
>> some assurance that it's worth buying, though. I found a great price
>> on it, and trusted it would work.
>
>How do you know it was them that put their name on it? I've got an HP USB stick here that failed. I doubt HP made it.

Micro Center was selling it through Amazon. It's reputable.

--
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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 19 May 2022 19:02 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:02:01 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:

>On 2022-05-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>>>
>>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,
>>
>> That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
>> many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
>> much lager than that.
>>
>> As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
>> Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
>> says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
>> drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
>> that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
>> here.
>
>As far as I know, he suggested that thumb drives don't store anything
>over the first 64GB regardless of what they claim.

No. See the quote above. He said "Show me where you can buy a large
USB drive that isn't a fake. " He said "USB drive," not "thumb drive."

And that suggestion is complete nonsense, even if he meant "thumb
drive."

>As far as I know,
>this is only true of disreputable brands. When I had a 128GB thumb drive
>made by Kingston, it worked just fine and storage more than 64GB regularly.

Same here. I have several, made by several different companies.

>>> that has all
>>> my files backed up to it.
>>
>> Dangerous, as far as I'm concerned. A virus attack could destroy
>> everything on all attached drives. And if your computer is stolen, the
>> thief is likely to also take everything plugged in.
>
>Agreed wholeheartedly here.

Glad to hear it.

> He must have absolute trust in his anti-virus.

But I completely disagree with that. It's foolhardy to have absolute
trust in any anti-virus. No anti-virus is perfect, and even if it were
perfect today, it wouldn't be perfect tomorrow. New viruses come out
every day, and no AV software can keep up with everything that just
came out.

That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
should also always practice safe hex.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 19:12 UTC

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>should also always practice safe hex.

There's virtually no reason to worry about malicious code somehow
running on my computer. I don't do risky things, whatsoever.

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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 19 May 2022 19:59 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:12:43 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>should also always practice safe hex.
>
>
>There's virtually no reason to worry about malicious code somehow
>running on my computer. I don't do risky things, whatsoever.

But it's never possible to be completely sure that what you are doing
isn't risky. The only time I ever saw a virus on any of my many
computers over the years, was some twenty or so years ago. I inserted
a diskette that had been given to me by one of the most expert
computer people I knew, someone who I trusted implicitly. Immediately
my anti-virus popped up with a message telling me that the diskette
contained a virus.

I didn't run anything on the diskette, so I didn't get infected, but I
could have if I wasn't running the anti-virus program.

My point is that regardless of what security software we run, and how
careful we are, none of us is ever risk free. We can certainly
minimize the risk and make infection very unlikely, but we can never
reduce the likelihood to zero. "Whatsoever" is too strong a word.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 20:07 UTC

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>>That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>>should also always practice safe hex.
>>
>>There's virtually no reason to worry about malicious code somehow
>>running on my computer. I don't do risky things, whatsoever.
>
>But it's never possible to be completely sure that what you are doing
>isn't risky. The only time I ever saw a virus on any of my many
>computers over the years, was some twenty or so years ago. I inserted
>a diskette that had been given to me by one of the most expert
>computer people I knew, someone who I trusted implicitly. Immediately
>my anti-virus popped up with a message telling me that the diskette
>contained a virus.
>
>I didn't run anything on the diskette, so I didn't get infected, but I
>could have if I wasn't running the anti-virus program.
>
>My point is that regardless of what security software we run, and how
>careful we are, none of us is ever risk free. We can certainly
>minimize the risk and make infection very unlikely, but we can never
>reduce the likelihood to zero. "Whatsoever" is too strong a word.

I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
stuff, and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
with. I apply updates religiously. There just isn't a really viable
way in, for an attacker or their code.

--
Joel Crump

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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 19 May 2022 20:26 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 16:07:54 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>>That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>>>should also always practice safe hex.
>>>
>>>There's virtually no reason to worry about malicious code somehow
>>>running on my computer. I don't do risky things, whatsoever.
>>
>>But it's never possible to be completely sure that what you are doing
>>isn't risky. The only time I ever saw a virus on any of my many
>>computers over the years, was some twenty or so years ago. I inserted
>>a diskette that had been given to me by one of the most expert
>>computer people I knew, someone who I trusted implicitly. Immediately
>>my anti-virus popped up with a message telling me that the diskette
>>contained a virus.
>>
>>I didn't run anything on the diskette, so I didn't get infected, but I
>>could have if I wasn't running the anti-virus program.
>>
>>My point is that regardless of what security software we run, and how
>>careful we are, none of us is ever risk free. We can certainly
>>minimize the risk and make infection very unlikely, but we can never
>>reduce the likelihood to zero. "Whatsoever" is too strong a word.
>
>
>I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>stuff, and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>with. I apply updates religiously. There just isn't a really viable
>way in, for an attacker or their code.

Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 20:31 UTC

Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

>>I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>>stuff, and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>with. I apply updates religiously. There just isn't a really viable
>>way in, for an attacker or their code.
>
>Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.

I am cautious about what domains I connect to.

--
Joel Crump

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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 19 May 2022 21:23 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 16:31:18 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>>>stuff, and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>>with. I apply updates religiously. There just isn't a really viable
>>>way in, for an attacker or their code.
>>
>>Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.
>
>
>I am cautious about what domains I connect to.

Doesn't matter. Most sites use 3rd party ads, and 'things happen' from
time to time. Bottom line, this is only one avenue of many, so I'd say
you're not as secure as you might think.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 21:34 UTC

Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

>>>Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.
>>
>>I am cautious about what domains I connect to.
>
>Doesn't matter. Most sites use 3rd party ads, and 'things happen' from
>time to time. Bottom line, this is only one avenue of many, so I'd say
>you're not as secure as you might think.

In other words, you are hell-bent on having the last word, so have at
it, boring Usenet person.

--
Joel Crump

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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 19 May 2022 23:01 UTC

On Thu, 19 May 2022 16:31:18 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>>>stuff, and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>>with. I apply updates religiously. There just isn't a really viable
>>>way in, for an attacker or their code.
>>
>>Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.
>
>
>I am cautious about what domains I connect to.

Me too. Being cautious minimizes the risk. That's not the same as
reducing the risk to zero.

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 by: Joel - Thu, 19 May 2022 23:05 UTC

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 May 2022 16:31:18 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you ever visited a web site? There's (potential) your way in.
>>
>>I am cautious about what domains I connect to.
>
>Me too. Being cautious minimizes the risk. That's not the same as
>reducing the risk to zero.

I know, it's just that at some point the probability of making a
mistake is so close to zero, that it's not worth worrying about. I
think it can be a matter of keeping it simple - just be on your toes,
act wisely, and you're almost certain to be OK.

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Joel Crump

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