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From: spa...@nospam.com (Andy Burnelli)
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Subject: Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 17:04:56 +0100
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:04 UTC

Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?

1. Webdav is _fantastic_ to mount Android as a drive on Windows over Wi-Fi!
net use X: \\192.168.0.2@8080\DavWWWRoot /USER:username password

2. When you do that, you get access to the _entire_ native phone!
Note that's even read access to the system partition on the phone.

3. However... I can't seem to get read access to the external sdcard yet.
I don't know why not yet - but I "thought" it might be "permissions"
<https://i.postimg.cc/sxzR0Pg8/webdav01.jpg> WebDav has no sd permission

4. Digging, I noticed that X-Plore has no sd card read permission either:
/storage/0000-0001 <== that is my SD Card which I renamed years ago
<https://i.postimg.cc/X7FS61HD/webdav02.jpg> X-plore has no permission

5. Yet, I can easily read/write the sd card using a File Manager.
<https://i.postimg.cc/BvmRBrbt/webdav03.jpg> File Manager has permission

6. And I can read/write the sd card using "My Files" too.
<https://i.postimg.cc/3xCsd4HX/webdav04.jpg> My Files has permission

7. The dilemma comes when I look in Android 12 settings at permissions:
<https://i.postimg.cc/Njm6ZXsc/webdav05.jpg> Permissions are the same

I can't see _any_ difference in the permissions between those four apps.
Hence my confusion.

What determines the WebDav server permissions on the external sd card
(it matters because I use WebDav to mount Android over WiFi as a drive).

Why can some apps read the external sd card and others can't when their
file permissions appear to be exactly the same in all cases above.

What's going on?

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Subject: Re: Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 03:12:20 +0100
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 20 May 2022 02:12 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> Why can some apps read the external sd card and others can't when their
> file permissions appear to be exactly the same in all cases above.

I solved the problem by giving up on the simpler WebDav server.

When I was very careful setting up a more complex WebDav server,
the folder permissions finally worked the way I wanted them to work.

Gory details (sufficient for anyone to reproduce my success) is here:
*Tutorial: Mounting smartphone sdcard & external sdcard onto Windows*
*over Wi-Fi as a driver letter using a free/ad-free Android WebDAV server*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/cAJKyBsOhfo>
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 by: Alan - Fri, 20 May 2022 03:54 UTC

On 2022-05-19 9:04 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?

Would you pay any attention of someone did?

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 by: Hank Rogers - Fri, 20 May 2022 04:30 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-05-19 9:04 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?
>
> Would you pay any attention of someone did?
>

Most wouldn’t give him the time of day.

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Subject: Re: Can someone please explain how permissions work between Android & Windows?
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sat, 21 May 2022 21:10 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> I solved the problem by giving up on the simpler WebDav server.

Thanks to a suggestion by "Big Al", I was able to _combine_ the advantage
of _two_ WebDAV servers, one to mount the internal sdcard over one port
over Wi-Fi and the other WebDAV server to mount the external sdcard over a
different port over Wi-Fi, for the best of both worlds!

Does it get any better than this?
<https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg>

Today I solved _all_ the problems I had run into, thanks to the advice from
other helpful intelligent people such as Andy Burns, Herbert Kleebauer,
Big Al, et. al, all of whom are who make Usenet a valuable adult
conversation where ideas are exchanged so we all benefit from the result.

1. Over Wi-fi
2. Using only widely available free tools
3. I can now easily mount the _entire_ Android device
4. both the internal sdcard (including the root partitions!)
5. and the external sdcard, simultaneously,
6. each as their own Windows drive letter
7. while at the same time being able to mirror the Android phone
8. and control the Android phone using the mouse & keyboard
9. while simultaneously sharing the two clipboards between them
10. And being able to slide files back and forth at will

My question to the group at large simply is whether there is anything else
that we could possibly want in terms of complete Android/Windows sharing?

Note all of this is done
a. WITHOUT any login to anything!
b. WITHOUT any connection to the Internet!
c. WITHOUT paying a penny for tools

Does it get any better than that?

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