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From: rob...@despammer.com (Rob H)
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 by: Rob H - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 11:24 UTC

These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired
mouse does.
Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the
system.
If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port,
but neither made any difference.
I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would
it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.

thanks

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 by: Yrrah - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:32 UTC

Rob H <rob@despammer.com>:
> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired
> mouse does. (...)

Can you still use the keyboard?

Yrrah

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From: Bea...@invalid.com (Big Al)
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Subject: Re: Mint 21.1 Cinnamon locking up
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 by: Big Al - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:54 UTC

On 7/16/23 07:24, this is what Rob H wrote:
> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze,
> or at least my wired mouse does.
> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I
> have to hard reboot the system.
> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a
> different usb port, but neither made any difference.
> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make
> any difference.
>
> thanks
I take it you don't have a spare mouse? Shame shame. I always have a spare especially if I find a mouse I like.
One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.👍
--
Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

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 by: Yrrah - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:04 UTC

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com>:
> I take it you don't have a spare mouse? Shame shame. I always have a spare especially if I find a mouse I like.
> One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.

Same here.

Yrrah

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 by: Paul - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:03 UTC

On 7/16/2023 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the system.
> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>
> thanks

I would find some other test environment for the mouse,
bring it over and see how it behaves. If two test cases
yield the same behavior, then yes, it's probably a hardware
problem.

My first PC, it has a weird issue with RAM. Any time exactly
768MB of memory (or more) is installed, it would become extremely
unstable and crash. Since I was running Windows at the time,
I assumed it was an OS issue (because at the time, there were
issues when more than 512MB was installed).

Well, one day, I got Linux running on it, and damn if it
didn't kernel panic on me in a matter of minutes. It
was extremely unstable in Linux too.

These two results, hinted it was a hardware issue. So I
started testing with various RAM configs. If I used
256+256+128+64, I could run Prime95 all day long, with
no errors at all. If I switched to 256+256+256, well,
I couldn't even get Prime95 started, because the OS
had already crashes. It would also crash nicely with 256+256+256+256.

This is why I like two test environments. They can either
be very slightly different (try LinuxMint and MXLinux, compare
behavior), or extremely different (a Pentium3 and a Zen3). The point
is, you want to see if in all cases, the same bad behavior
is present, hinting a new mouse should be on order.

Paul

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 by: Mike Easter - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:27 UTC

Big Al wrote:
> One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.

Do you mean you hate *mousepads* (the mat for a mouse) or you hate
touchpads/ trackpad the laptop 'pad' substitute for a mouse?

I luv a mouse, but I like some kind of pad for it.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Big Al - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:35 UTC

On 7/16/23 10:27, this is what Mike Easter wrote:
> Big Al wrote:
>> One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.
>
> Do you mean you hate *mousepads* (the mat for a mouse) or you hate touchpads/ trackpad the laptop 'pad' substitute for a
> mouse?
>
> I luv a mouse, but I like some kind of pad for it.
>
Yes. At the time mousepad was all I could think of, I just bought one too so it was on my mind. Touchpad should have
been it.
--
Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

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 by: Mike Easter - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:18 UTC

Big Al wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Big Al wrote:
>>> One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.
>>
>> Do you mean you hate *mousepads* (the mat for a mouse) or you hate
>> touchpads/ trackpad the laptop 'pad' substitute for a mouse?
>>
>> I luv a mouse, but I like some kind of pad for it.
>>
> Yes.  At the time mousepad was all I could think of, I just bought one
> too so it was on my mind.   Touchpad should have been it.

In the 'unhappy' situation where one has to actually put a laptop on
their lap and there is no place for a mousepad and mouse, one is stuck
w/ that touchpad. Also a rather warm lap.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Rob H - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 17:43 UTC

On 16/07/2023 13:32, Yrrah wrote:
> Rob H <rob@despammer.com>:
>
>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired
>> mouse does. (...)
>
> Can you still use the keyboard?
>
> Yrrah
Yes I can

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 by: Rob H - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 17:45 UTC

On 16/07/2023 15:03, Paul wrote:
> On 7/16/2023 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
>> wired mouse does.
>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
>> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
>> the system.
>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port,
>> but neither made any difference.
>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>
>> thanks
>
> I would find some other test environment for the mouse,
> bring it over and see how it behaves. If two test cases
> yield the same behavior, then yes, it's probably a hardware
> problem.
>
> My first PC, it has a weird issue with RAM. Any time exactly
> 768MB of memory (or more) is installed, it would become extremely
> unstable and crash. Since I was running Windows at the time,
> I assumed it was an OS issue (because at the time, there were
> issues when more than 512MB was installed).
>
> Well, one day, I got Linux running on it, and damn if it
> didn't kernel panic on me in a matter of minutes. It
> was extremely unstable in Linux too.
>
> These two results, hinted it was a hardware issue. So I
> started testing with various RAM configs. If I used
> 256+256+128+64, I could run Prime95 all day long, with
> no errors at all. If I switched to 256+256+256, well,
> I couldn't even get Prime95 started, because the OS
> had already crashes. It would also crash nicely with 256+256+256+256.
>
> This is why I like two test environments. They can either
> be very slightly different (try LinuxMint and MXLinux, compare
> behavior), or extremely different (a Pentium3 and a Zen3). The point
> is, you want to see if in all cases, the same bad behavior
> is present, hinting a new mouse should be on order.
>
>    Paul

Thank I'll swap the said mouse with another on another machine.

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On 16/07/2023 13:54, Big Al wrote:
> On 7/16/23 07:24, this is what Rob H wrote:
>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
>> wired mouse does.
>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
>> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
>> the system.
>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port,
>> but neither made any difference.
>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>
>> thanks
> I take it you don't have a spare mouse?   Shame shame.   I always have a
> spare especially if I find a mouse I like. One can never be without a
> mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.👍

I have another mouse, but as I have big hands , the said mouse is big.
The mouse on another desktop is just a small Amazon basics.
I have swapped it over to the Mint machine, and I'll just wait and see
how it goes.

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On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
> wired mouse does.
> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
> the system.
> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port,
> but neither made any difference.
> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>
> thanks
Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a
search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.

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 by: Rob H - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 19:41 UTC

On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
>> wired mouse does.
>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
>> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
>> the system.
>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port,
>> but neither made any difference.
>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>
>> thanks
> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a
> search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.

This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:

time: 12:05:17
Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID
v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0

Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001

Priority: 6

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 by: Nic - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 19:48 UTC

On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
>>> wired mouse does.
>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
>>> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
>>> the system.
>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb
>>> port, but neither made any difference.
>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>
>>> thanks
>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a
>> search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>
> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>
> time: 12:05:17
> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB
> HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>
> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>
> Priority: 6
It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a
wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.

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 by: Rob H - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 19:51 UTC

On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming
>>>> more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my
>>>> wired mouse does.
>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable
>>>> again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot
>>>> the system.
>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>>>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb
>>>> port, but neither made any difference.
>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>>>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a
>>> search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>
>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>
>> time: 12:05:17
>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB
>> HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>
>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>
>> Priority: 6
> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a
> wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.

I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the
motherboard of my desktop machine

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On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again,
>>>>> becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at
>>>>> least my wired mouse does.
>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes
>>>>> usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to
>>>>> hard reboot the system.
>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>>>>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb
>>>>> port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>>>>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do
>>>> a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>
>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>
>>> time: 12:05:17
>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB
>>> HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>
>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>
>>> Priority: 6
>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using
>> a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>
> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the
> motherboard of my desktop machine
So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.

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On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again,
>>>>>> becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at
>>>>>> least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes
>>>>>> usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to
>>>>>> hard reboot the system.
>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>>>>>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb
>>>>>> port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and
>>>>>> would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do
>>>>> a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>
>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>
>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB
>>>> HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>
>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>
>>>> Priority: 6
>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using
>>> a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>
>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the
>> motherboard of my desktop machine
> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.

Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond
to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.

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On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again,
>>>>>>> becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at
>>>>>>> least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes
>>>>>>> usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to
>>>>>>> hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried
>>>>>>> unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb
>>>>>>> port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years,
>>>>>>> and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any
>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do
>>>>>> a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>
>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0:
>>>>> USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>
>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>
>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were
>>>> using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>
>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the
>>> motherboard of my desktop machine
>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>
> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond
> to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.

Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't
work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.

Time: 18:56:37
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Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
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 by: Big Al - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:17 UTC

On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to
>>>>>>>> freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient,
>>>>>>>> and I have to hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using
>>>>>>>> a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it
>>>>>>>> would make any difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a search for the the most recent .log file
>>>>>>> after the hard reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on
>>>>>> usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a
>>>>> usb device.
>>>>
>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the motherboard of my desktop machine
>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>
>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>
> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't work either, o it must be something else which i
> causing it to happen.
>
> Time:    18:56:37
> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on
> usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
> Priority 6
>
Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.
--
Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

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On 17/07/2023 22:17, Big Al wrote:
> On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
>> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again,
>>>>>>>>> becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or
>>>>>>>>> at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes
>>>>>>>>> usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to
>>>>>>>>> hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have
>>>>>>>>> tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a
>>>>>>>>> different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years,
>>>>>>>>> and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any
>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring?
>>>>>>>> Do a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard
>>>>>>>> reboot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0:
>>>>>>> USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were
>>>>>> using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the
>>>>> motherboard of my desktop machine
>>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>>
>>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does
>>> respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>>
>> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't
>> work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.
>>
>> Time:    18:56:37
>> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11
>> Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
>> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
>> Priority 6
>>
> Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.

Hardware etc information:
rob@rob-Z97:~$ inxi -Fxxxrz
System:
Kernel: 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin vt: 7 dm:
LightDM 1.30.0
Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z97-HD3 v: x.x
serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: F5
date: 06/03/2014
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-4690 bits: 64 type: MCP
smt: <unsupported> arch: Haswell rev: 3 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3836 high: 3880 min/max: 800/3900 cores: 1: 3864
2: 3821 3: 3781 4: 3880 bogomips: 27999
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated
Graphics
vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel ports: active: none
empty: HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0412
class-ID: 0300
Device-2: AMD Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240/340 / Radeon 520] vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: radeon v: kernel pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 8 ports:
active: DVI-D-1,VGA-2 empty: HDMI-A-3 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID:
1002:6613
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X:
loaded: ati,modesetting,radeon unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: radeon
display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3200x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 846x285mm (33.3x11.2")
s-diag: 893mm (35.1")
Monitor-1: DVI-0 mapped: DVI-D-1 pos: primary,top-right
model: Samsung SyncMaster serial: <filter> res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
dpi: 96
size: 510x287mm (20.1x11.3") diag: 585mm (23") modes: max: 1920x1080
min: 720x400
Monitor-2: VGA-1 mapped: VGA-2 pos: bottom-l model: Dell E1715S
serial: <filter> res: 1280x1024 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 338x270mm
(13.3x10.6")
diag: 433mm (17") modes: max: 1280x1024 min: 720x400
OpenGL: renderer: OLAND ( LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 2.50 5.15.0-76-generic)
v: 4.5 Mesa 22.2.5-0ubuntu0.1~22.04.3 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c
class-ID: 0403
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driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8ca0
class-ID: 0403
Device-3: AMD Oland/Hainan/Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7000
Series]
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 8 GT/s
lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aab0 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-76-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: docker0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 95.01 GiB (6.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-07WN4A0
size: 931.51 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: 1A01
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 4B6Q scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 227.68 GiB used: 54.12 GiB (23.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc5
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 4 KiB (0.0%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdc1
ID-3: /home size: 228.17 GiB used: 40.89 GiB (17.9%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
file: /swapfile
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: radeon temp: 44.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
Packages: apt: 2741
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/100-ubnt-unifi.list
1: deb https://www.ui.com/downloads/unifi/debian unifi-6.5 ubiquiti
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/impish-security.list
1: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ivideon.list
1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/ivideon-archive-keyring.gpg]
http://packages.ivideon.com/ubuntu stable non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-3.6.list
1: deb [ arch=amd64,arm64
signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/mongodb-server-3.6.gpg ]
https://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu xenial/mongodb-org/3.6 multiverse
Active apt repos in:
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
1: deb http://packages.linuxmint.com vera main upstream import backport
2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy main restricted
universe multiverse
3: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates main
restricted universe multiverse
4: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports main
restricted universe multiverse
5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-security main
restricted universe multiverse
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/plexmediaserver.list
Info:
Processes: 274 Uptime: 3h 26m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.46 GiB
used: 8.07 GiB (52.2%) Init: systemd v: 249 runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 11.3.0 alt: 11/12/9 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: gnome-terminal
inxi: 3.3.13


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On 7/17/2023 5:26 PM, Rob H wrote:
> On 17/07/2023 22:17, Big Al wrote:
>> On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
>>> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>>>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the motherboard of my desktop machine
>>>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>>>
>>>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>>>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>>>
>>> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.
>>>
>>> Time:    18:56:37
>>> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
>>> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
>>> Priority 6
>>>
>> Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.
>
> Hardware etc information:
> rob@rob-Z97:~$ inxi -Fxxxrz
> System:
>   Kernel: 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0
>     Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0
>     Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy

If you have the boot menu set up, and you haven't been purging all
the old kernels, you can temporarily revert back to a previous
kernel and test your USB ports again.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/Tw3nfFsh/select-an-old-kernel-and-retest.gif

Paul

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On 2023-07-16, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 7/16/23 07:24, this is what Rob H wrote:
>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze,
>> or at least my wired mouse does.
>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I
>> have to hard reboot the system.
>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a
>> different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make
>> any difference.
>>
>> thanks
> I take it you don't have a spare mouse? Shame shame. I always have a spare especially if I find a mouse I like.
> One can never be without a mouse even on a laptop, I hate mouse pads.👍

Me too.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

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 by: Rob H - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:07 UTC

On 18/07/2023 03:48, Paul wrote:
> On 7/17/2023 5:26 PM, Rob H wrote:
>> On 17/07/2023 22:17, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
>>>> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>>>>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the motherboard of my desktop machine
>>>>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>>>>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>>>>
>>>> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.
>>>>
>>>> Time:    18:56:37
>>>> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
>>>> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
>>>> Priority 6
>>>>
>>> Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.
>>
>> Hardware etc information:
>> rob@rob-Z97:~$ inxi -Fxxxrz
>> System:
>>   Kernel: 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0
>>     Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0
>>     Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
>
> If you have the boot menu set up, and you haven't been purging all
> the old kernels, you can temporarily revert back to a previous
> kernel and test your USB ports again.
>
> [Picture]
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/Tw3nfFsh/select-an-old-kernel-and-retest.gif
>
> Paul

Thanks Paul.
I can't help thinking that the problem is being caused by a latest?
update , ie a later version kernel.
I have installed installed kernel version 5.19.0-41 from Update
Manager/Linux Kernels.

I don't know, so I will ask, does that mean that the system will always
boot or use the said kernel version, or do I have to do something else
as well.

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 by: Paul - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:09 UTC

On 7/18/2023 3:07 AM, Rob H wrote:
> On 18/07/2023 03:48, Paul wrote:
>> On 7/17/2023 5:26 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>> On 17/07/2023 22:17, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
>>>>> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the motherboard of my desktop machine
>>>>>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>>>>>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time:    18:56:37
>>>>> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
>>>>> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
>>>>> Priority 6
>>>>>
>>>> Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.
>>>
>>> Hardware etc information:
>>> rob@rob-Z97:~$ inxi -Fxxxrz
>>> System:
>>>    Kernel: 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0
>>>      Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0
>>>      Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
>>
>> If you have the boot menu set up, and you haven't been purging all
>> the old kernels, you can temporarily revert back to a previous
>> kernel and test your USB ports again.
>>
>>     [Picture]
>>
>>      https://i.postimg.cc/Tw3nfFsh/select-an-old-kernel-and-retest.gif
>>
>>    Paul
>
> Thanks Paul.
> I can't help thinking that the problem is being caused by a latest? update , ie a later version kernel.
> I have installed installed kernel version 5.19.0-41 from Update Manager/Linux Kernels.
>
> I don't know, so I will ask, does that mean that the system will always boot or use the said kernel version, or do I have to do something else as well.

When no menu is present during the boot sequence, it
should follow the default (single OS offering) line, and
not the Advanced Option items.

If you set up the Menu, then if you respond in time, you can
take control. If you instead, relax and just let it boot,
it chooses the Default line.

Setting up the Menu, is part of preparing for broken-ness.
And this is especially the case, if you are accelerating the
kernel choices and choosing whizzy ones.

This is why I'm recommending this step, as you can "join us
poor folk" with our old-kernels and see if your USB device
works better. I've partaken of whizzy kernels before, without
too much impact except for DKMS stuff no longer working.
(When stuff is added via DKMS, there is a kernel range
set of numbers and if your new kernel is outside the
DKMS item defined range, then the DKMS item cannot be applied.
Maybe this would include an NVidia driver, VirtualBox Additions,
and so on.)

Paul

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 by: Rob H - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:57 UTC

On 18/07/2023 10:09, Paul wrote:
> On 7/18/2023 3:07 AM, Rob H wrote:
>> On 18/07/2023 03:48, Paul wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2023 5:26 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>> On 17/07/2023 22:17, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/23 14:02, this is what Rob H wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 23:07, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 21:04, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:51 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:48, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 3:41 PM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2023 20:26, Nic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/23 7:24 AM, Rob H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These last few weeks I have found that every now and again, becoming more frequent now, my Mint system seems to freeze, or at least my wired mouse does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes if I leave it for a an hour or so,the mouse becomes usable again, but this is not always convenient, and I have to hard reboot the system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it helps , the mouse is a Kensigton wired mouse. I have tried unplugging and plugging back in, and also using a different usb port, but neither made any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had this same mouse for a long time now, maybe 7/8 years, and would it be time to get a new one, if it would make any difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there some system log file that might say what is occurring? Do a search for the the most recent .log file after the hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is all I could find in the hardware section of logs:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> time: 12:05:17
>>>>>>>>>>> Message: hid-generic 0003:1BCF:08A0.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID    v1.10 Mouse [HID 1bcf:08a0] on usb-0000:00:14.0-5/input0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kernel Device: +hid:0003:1BCF:08A0.0001
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Priority: 6
>>>>>>>>>> It looks like it is going to sleep. I thought you said you were using a wired mouse, this message has to do with a usb device.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am using a wired mouse which is plugged into a USB port on the motherboard of my desktop machine
>>>>>>>> So the message suggests to me the mouse is hibernating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well that is weird as I've never known that before, but why would it.
>>>>>>> Also, as I don't know how long I'd have to wait before it does respond to movement, it becomes a bit inconvenient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well the replacement mouse has also locked up, and the keyboard didn't work either, o it must be something else which i causing it to happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time:    18:56:37
>>>>>> Message:hid-generic 0003:04F2:0939.0003: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [PixArt USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:14.0-6/input0
>>>>>> kernel Device : +hid:0003:04F2:0939.0003
>>>>>> Priority 6
>>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the 's' key is intermittently not working too.
>>>>
>>>> Hardware etc information:
>>>> rob@rob-Z97:~$ inxi -Fxxxrz
>>>> System:
>>>>    Kernel: 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0
>>>>      Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0
>>>>      Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
>>>
>>> If you have the boot menu set up, and you haven't been purging all
>>> the old kernels, you can temporarily revert back to a previous
>>> kernel and test your USB ports again.
>>>
>>>     [Picture]
>>>
>>>      https://i.postimg.cc/Tw3nfFsh/select-an-old-kernel-and-retest.gif
>>>
>>>    Paul
>>
>> Thanks Paul.
>> I can't help thinking that the problem is being caused by a latest? update , ie a later version kernel.
>> I have installed installed kernel version 5.19.0-41 from Update Manager/Linux Kernels.
>>
>> I don't know, so I will ask, does that mean that the system will always boot or use the said kernel version, or do I have to do something else as well.
>
> When no menu is present during the boot sequence, it
> should follow the default (single OS offering) line, and
> not the Advanced Option items.
>
> If you set up the Menu, then if you respond in time, you can
> take control. If you instead, relax and just let it boot,
> it chooses the Default line.
>
> Setting up the Menu, is part of preparing for broken-ness.
> And this is especially the case, if you are accelerating the
> kernel choices and choosing whizzy ones.
>
> This is why I'm recommending this step, as you can "join us
> poor folk" with our old-kernels and see if your USB device
> works better. I've partaken of whizzy kernels before, without
> too much impact except for DKMS stuff no longer working.
> (When stuff is added via DKMS, there is a kernel range
> set of numbers and if your new kernel is outside the
> DKMS item defined range, then the DKMS item cannot be applied.
> Maybe this would include an NVidia driver, VirtualBox Additions,
> and so on.)
>
> Paul

Thanks, but how do I setup the menu as I've never used one before.

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