Is a free personal carddav or caldav server for Windows exist?
One that can sync vcd & ics with smart phone & the user home lan?

Lars Anders wrote:

> Is a free personal carddav or caldav server for Windows exist?
> One that can sync vcd & ics with smart phone & the user home lan?

Nextcloud server running in a VM on windows? Probably overkill.

On 7/13/2022 10:46 PM, Idaho Homo Joe wrote:
> On 7/13/2022 9:58 PM, Lars Anders wrote:
>> Is a free personal carddav or caldav server for Windows exist?
>> One that can sync vcd & ics with smart phone & the user home lan?
>
> Yes, there is!

There is Radicale but I don't know if it runs on Windows.
https://radicale.org/v3.html

This is a Radicale Alternatives for Windows page
https://alternativeto.net/software/radicale/?platform=windows

Which says these replace Radicale servers when on Windows
ownCloud https://owncloud.com/download-server/
Baikal https://sabre.io/baikal/
DAViCal https://www.davical.org/
FileAgo https://www.fileago.com/
Xandikos https://www.xandikos.org/

The owncloud comes with a server & desktop but I do not know if you can use
either or both to sync contacts & calendars among your devices.
https://download.owncloud.com/server/stable/owncloud-complete-latest.zip
https://download.owncloud.com/desktop/ownCloud/stable/2.10.1.7187/win/ownCloud-2.10.1.7187.x64.msi

On 14/07/2022 19:40, Heron wrote:

> There is Radicale but I don't know if it runs on Windows.
> https://radicale.org/v3.html

I looked but most of the radicale installation pages are for linux
https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-radicale-caldav-and-carddav-on-ubuntu-20-04/

But this says radicale is written in python
https://quintagroup.com/cms/python/radicale

The radicale web page implies it might run on Windows if you install python
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.10.5/python-3.10.5-amd64.exe

That radicale page says you then run these python commands.
python -m pip install --upgrade radicale
python -m radicale --storage-filesystem-folder=~/radicale/collections
http://localhost:5232

The rest of the configuration at https://radicale.org/v3.html is greek to
me but maybe if you know what you're doing or find Windows setup
instructions you might be ok.

This is setup instructions but most of the links it references are dead
https://specialistoff.net/page/497

It took this guy five hours to set it up on Windows so it may not be easy.
https://laptopmeister.com/radicale-server-in-windows/
--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 7/14/2022 12:40 PM, Heron wrote:

> There is Radicale but I don't know if it runs on Windows.
> https://radicale.org/v3.html
>
> This is a Radicale Alternatives for Windows page
> https://alternativeto.net/software/radicale/?platform=windows
>
> Which says these replace Radicale servers when on Windows
> ownCloud https://owncloud.com/download-server/
> Baikal https://sabre.io/baikal/
> DAViCal https://www.davical.org/
> FileAgo https://www.fileago.com/
> Xandikos https://www.xandikos.org/

Are you sure those urls contain downloads to install a Windows server?

Radicale https://radicale.org/v3.html
I didn't see a Windows Linux server (does it work on Windows?)

ownCloud https://owncloud.com/download-server/
I didn't see a Windows Linux server (does it work on Windows?)

All I saw for Windows was a desktop client.
Mac/Windows/Linux Desktop https://owncloud.com/desktop-app/
Apple/Android Client https://owncloud.com/mobile-apps/

Baikal https://sabre.io/baikal/
https://github.com/sabre-io/Baikal/releases
I didn't see a Windows Linux server (does it work on Windows?)

DAViCal https://www.davical.org/
It says "We definitely do not recommend using Windows for this unless you
are completely hobbled by silly internal IT policies and have to do so."

FileAgo https://www.fileago.com/
It says "30 days risk-free trial. No credit card required."

Xandikos https://www.xandikos.org/
I didn't see a Windows Linux server (does it work on Windows?)
--
J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com

On 7/14/2022 1:54 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 14/07/2022 19:40, Heron wrote:
>
>> There is Radicale but I don't know if it runs on Windows.
>> https://radicale.org/v3.html
>
> I looked but most of the radicale installation pages are for linux
> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-radicale-caldav-and-carddav-on-ubuntu-20-04/
>
> But this says radicale is written in python
> https://quintagroup.com/cms/python/radicale
>
> The radicale web page implies it might run on Windows if you install python
> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.10.5/python-3.10.5-amd64.exe
>
> That radicale page says you then run these python commands.
> python -m pip install --upgrade radicale
> python -m radicale --storage-filesystem-folder=~/radicale/collections
> http://localhost:5232
> The rest of the configuration at https://radicale.org/v3.html is greek to
> me but maybe if you know what you're doing or find Windows setup
> instructions you might be ok.
>
> This is setup instructions but most of the links it references are dead
> https://specialistoff.net/page/497
>
> It took this guy five hours to set it up on Windows so it may not be easy.
> https://laptopmeister.com/radicale-server-in-windows/

And you'll notice the guy who spent the five hours,
corrected this:

~/radicale/collections <=== A Linux reference

to this

C:\Desired\Path <=== A Windows reference

At least the five hour guy, actually did it. It's
seeing the details corrected, that makes you more believable.

And I can well believe it taking five hours to get a Python
project airborne. Not all the dependencies get computed, you
get "scipy missing" or "numpy missing" or you find out that
you need some 1.4GB download to get some graphics goodness,
and so on. Doing one fix after another fix after another fix,
the hours start to add up to real money.

If you did a Python PIP "HelloWorld", that might well take
only five minutes. But some projects are very complicated,
and for those, you have to use your imagination, what
a particular message is really telling you about your
install state.

The original pip and pip3, if you fall for those, they point
at an "overloaded server", and projects stopped being
pulled from those servers long ago. There seems to be a newer
pip used for Python now. I have not located the "origin"
of that code, so I could see what their design objectives were.

Paul

On 15/07/2022 07:13, Paul wrote:

> And you'll notice the guy who spent the five hours,
> corrected this:
>
> ~/radicale/collections <=== A Linux reference
>
> to this
>
> C:\Desired\Path <=== A Windows reference

It did seem odd that a tilde was used by Radicale on their Windows
instructions https://radicale.org/v3.html but I thought maybe Python
handled the tilde internally to the interpreter perhaps?

Or Radicale never tested their own main page Windows instructions.
> At least the five hour guy, actually did it. It's
> seeing the details corrected, that makes you more believable.

He seemed knowledgeable but he also had to deal with 200 Apple users in a
production environment with a budget of zero dollars to set up the Windows
CardDAV server (I didn't understand but he said it was because iOS doesn't
work with O365's GAL, whatever that means in plain normal English).
> And I can well believe it taking five hours to get a Python
> project airborne. Not all the dependencies get computed, you
> get "scipy missing" or "numpy missing" or you find out that
> you need some 1.4GB download to get some graphics goodness,
> and so on. Doing one fix after another fix after another fix,
> the hours start to add up to real money.

His first dependency was he said Radicale uses LDAP but he said LDAP can't
import contact information. So he said he had to first set up XAMPP
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/ to maintain a .htpasswd file.

After XAMPP, he said he set his 200 iOS devices required the use of SSL and
he said Power Shell could create the self signed certificate, but he used
OpenSSL instead to meet that second dependency.

Sometimes he called it xampp and other times he used xamp with only one P.

> If you did a Python PIP "HelloWorld", that might well take
> only five minutes. But some projects are very complicated,
> and for those, you have to use your imagination, what
> a particular message is really telling you about your
> install state.

As you surmised, it was one thing after another where he then installed
Windows Server 2012 R2 and Python 3, which I guess was his third and fourth
dependency.

The cutely named "Non Sucky Service Manager" was another dependency
apparently, where he said NSSM was to create and edit an automatic service
to run Radicale on server startup. (Is that non sucky service manager a
common tool on Windows for managing services upon bootup?)

There was one more dependency, which was a CalDAV Synchronizer client for
Outlook to upload contacts to the CardDAV server.

> The original pip and pip3, if you fall for those, they point
> at an "overloaded server", and projects stopped being
> pulled from those servers long ago. There seems to be a newer
> pip used for Python now. I have not located the "origin"
> of that code, so I could see what their design objectives were.

At least the 5-hour guy told us in the beginning what his design objectives
were, but he ran into just the kind of dependencies you said that he would.

He installed his Windows Radicale server from within Python using the
correct Windows path and not the tilde that was shown on the Radicale page.

python -m pip install --upgrade radicale == 2.1.*
python -m radicale --storage-filesystem-folder= C:\Desired\Path
http://localhost:5232/
C:\Xamp\apache\bin\htpasswd.exe -c C:\Path\to\create\htpasswd Admin
Enter Password
Re-Enter Password
C:\Xamp\apache\bin\htpasswd.exe C:\Path\to\create\htpasswd User
Enter Password
Re-Enter Password
openssl genrsa 2048 > C:\Path\to\radicale_server.key
openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -sha256 -days 365 -key
C:\Path\to\radicale_server.key -out C:\Path\to\radicale_server.cert
notepad C:\Path\to\config
python -m radicale �Vconfig C:\Path\to\config
[server]
hosts = 0.0.0.0:5232
max_connections = 5000
max_content_length = 100000000
timeout = 120
SSL = True
certificate = C:\Path\To\radicale_server.cert
key = C:\Path\to\radicale_server.key

[auth]
type = htpasswd
htpasswd_filename = C:\Path\to\users.htpasswd
htpasswd_encryption = md5 (Default Encryption is salted MD5, Bcrpyt is an
option)

[rights]
type = from_file
file = C:\Path\to\rights
[storage]
filesystem_folder = C:\Path\To\collections

[web]
type = internal

python -m radicale �Vconfig C:\Path\to\config

notepad C:\Path\to\rightsfile
[admin]
user: admin
collection:.*
permission: RWrw (Grants Read and Write permissions to everything)

[contacts]
user: user
collection: .*
permission: r (Grants Read access to just address books)

cd C:\Path\to\Collections-root
mklink /D User Admin

non sucky service manager parameters
Path: C:Path\To\python.exe
Startup directory: C:Path\To\python.exe
Arguments: -m radicale --config C:\Path\To\config

Install cardDAV client
Restart server
Start adding contacts
Add CardDAV account to the iPhone
Accept self signed certs
Contacts should start to flow
--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 14/07/2022 08:23, Andy Burns wrote:

>> Is a free personal carddav or caldav server for Windows exist?
>> One that can sync vcd & ics with smart phone & the user home lan?
>
> Nextcloud server running in a VM on windows? Probably overkill.

I couldn't find anywhere Nextcloud ran on Windows natively.

I did find Radicale runs on Windows but the instructions stunk.
https://laptopmeister.com/radicale-server-in-windows/

For example, the very first line after "Installation Steps" is this:
*I will assume you have already installed Windows Server 2012 R2 or above.

I've never even heard of "Windows Server 2012" and even if I did, I would
think 2012 is old software. Don't they have anything newer to offer?

What's the current version of "Windows Server" and what is it anyway?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/

From that, the current version seems to be Windows Server 2022 (duh).
But there is only a "Free trial" so it won't help most of us, will it?

What "Windows Server" would you install if you were trying to follow those
instructions to set up Radicale when the instructions date back to 2012?
--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote:

> I couldn't find anywhere Nextcloud ran on Windows natively.

That's why I said in a VM ...

On 7/14/2022 3:06 PM, J.B. Wood wrote:
> On 7/14/2022 12:40 PM, Heron wrote:
>
>> There is Radicale but I don't know if it runs on Windows.
>> https://radicale.org/v3.html
>>
>> This is a Radicale Alternatives for Windows page https://alternativeto.net/software/radicale/?platform=windows
>>
>> Which says these replace Radicale servers when on Windows
>> ownCloud https://owncloud.com/download-server/

Apparently, some NAS boxes have a function like that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/piynil/any_issues_with_upgrading_to_dsm_7_and/

Paul