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* Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsBoris
+* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsVanguardLH
|+* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsJohn Johnson
||+* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsVanguardLH
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||`* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsMayayana
|| `- Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsMark Lloyd
|+* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsBoris
||`- Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsVanguardLH
|`- Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emailsBoris
`* Re: Edge - "Check this out" prepends the subject on emails...winston
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 by: Boris - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 02:41 UTC

When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share, Default mail
app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
followed by the title of the URL.

For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee (American
Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube

How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
subject when sharing URLs?

Windows 10
Windows Live Mail 2011

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 by: VanguardLH - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 04:35 UTC

Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share, Default mail
> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
> followed by the title of the URL.
>
> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee (American
> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>
> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
> subject when sharing URLs?
>
> Windows 10
> Windows Live Mail 2011

You didn't give the URL to the Youtube video. I searched on your
string, and found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8NsoN4S7IE

You didn't mention just how you are sharing this video. Could be you
are using the Share element in the video page (i.e., Youtube's Share
button), or some context menu entry or toolbar button for an add-on you
installed in Edge-C.

You mention Windows Live Mail 2011. Obviously that died over a decade
ago. You'll be hard pressed waiting for someone who managed to figure
out how to get it installed in Windows 10, or maybe you did an upgrade
to Windows 10 instead of a fresh install. You aren't even using the
latest version of Windows Live Mail which is 2012. There are many free
and far superior e-mail clients than Windows Live Mail. In fact, does
WLM 2011 (or even 2012) support OAUTH2 that is becoming a requirement to
log into your e-mail services? Google has started demanding e-mail
clients support OAUTH2 (although maybe their app passwords still work as
long as you agree to enable the nuisancesome 2FA option that grafts your
smartphone to your desktop). Microsoft, I believe, started using OAUTH2
several years ago, and they might move to requiring it (as the pretense
that OAUTH2 makes for a more secure e-mail client which is a lie).

When I tested using MS Edge-C 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64 21H2
at the Youtube video page, and clicked Youtube's Share button in the
video page, and select Email, my e-mail app opens (emClient) to a
new-mail compose window. The Youtube URL gets pasted into the body of
the message, but the To and Subject headers are blank. I was NOT logged
into my Google account when I visited Youtube.

You don't mention just how you are "sharing" the video, like if you are
using Youtube's Share button, or some context menu or add-on in Edge.

You mention using MS Edge-C (presumably you are using the new Chromium
variant of Edge that uses Google's Chromium rendering engine and
Google's V8 scripting engine, and not some ancient version of Edge still
using Microsoft's HTMLEdge rendering engine and scripting engine), but
no mention of version of MS Edge-C nor what add-ons you installed in it.

Not only does the Subject header in my e-mail client not have "Check
this out", but it also does not have the title of the video. For me,
the new-mail compose window's Subject is completely blank.

I logged into Youtube to click on Youtube's Share button, but still got
an e-mail new-mail compose window with a blank Subject. I went through
all my Youtube settings, but did not find one that specifies what, if
anything, to include in the Subject header of an e-mail used for sharing
(sending) the URL of the Youtube video page.

Could the the pre-filling of the Subject header is a "feature" of WLM
that you are still using. Have you tried using a different e-mail
client, and making it the default e-mail program, to test what happens
when however you share the Youtube video?

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 by: John Johnson - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 05:53 UTC

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share, Default mail
>> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
>> followed by the title of the URL.
>>
>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee (American
>> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>
>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
>> subject when sharing URLs?
>>
>> Windows 10
>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>
> You didn't give the URL to the Youtube video.

That doesn't matter. It happens with any URL.
Youtube is just an example.

> You didn't mention just how you are sharing this video. Could be you
> are using the Share element in the video page (i.e., Youtube's Share
> button), or some context menu entry or toolbar button for an add-on you
> installed in Edge-C.

Edge has a built in "..." (menu icon) / Share / Default Mail App
No add-on is needed.

> You mention Windows Live Mail 2011.

It happens with any mail client.

> When I tested using MS Edge-C 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64 21H2
> at the Youtube video page, and clicked Youtube's Share button in the
> video page, and select Email, my e-mail app opens (emClient) to a
> new-mail compose window. The Youtube URL gets pasted into the body of
> the message, but the To and Subject headers are blank. I was NOT logged
> into my Google account when I visited Youtube.

This time use Edge's built-in, "..." / Share / Default Mail App

> You don't mention just how you are "sharing" the video, like if you are
> using Youtube's Share button, or some context menu or add-on in Edge.

It happens with any URL. Try it with https://duckduckgo.com/

> Could the the pre-filling of the Subject header is a "feature" of WLM
> that you are still using.

It happens with any mail client. Try it with the latest Thunderbird as
your default mail client.

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 by: VanguardLH - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 09:00 UTC

John Johnson <johnjohnson@goodbyespam.invalid> wrote:

> Edge has a built in "..." (menu icon) / Share / Default Mail App

The OP didn't say /how/ he was sharing. You're right in that Edge-C has
a Share function. When I use Edge's Share, yep, the "Check this out -
<webdoctitle>" appears in the Subject header for the default e-mail
client.

So, it is a problem of using Edge's Share function. If the OP uses
Youtube's Share button in their web doc, the Subject is blank.

Of course, just copying the address bar in the web browser, and pasting
into a new-message compose window in your e-mail client eliminates
having to use however an internal "share" function is defined. After
all, the Share function in Edge, and Youtube's Share button, are doing
just that.

In Edge:
- Click on "..." in Edge.
- Click on "Share".
- Click on Default mail program.
- Open the new-message compose window in my e-mail client where the URL
is automatically added to the body.
- Have to edit the Subject differently from what Edge put in there.

Or I can use Copy/Paste:
- Click in the address bar of the web browser (which by default
highlights the entire string)
- Hit Ctrl+C to copy the URL.
- Click a shortcut to load my e-mail client. (*)
- Click New to open the new-message compose window. (*)
- Hit Ctrl+V in the body to add the URL.
- Edit the Subject (it's blank to start).
(*) These can be combined into a single step if you create a shortcut to
mailto:// which opens the new-message compose window in your e-mail
client.

I don't see the integration (share function) within Edge as being a
great alternative to the manual method to send the URL via e-mail.
Maybe it would be a simpler method when sharing via other mechanisms.

I found no setting in Edge to alter what it automatically inserts in the
Subject header of a new e-mail when using its Share function. Edge
wants to pretty the Subject header.

Alas, Firefox, my primary web browser, does have a similar function
under the File menu -> E-mail link, but it prettifies the Subject
header, too, by inserting the web doc's title into the Subject header.
I took a quit and not thorough through about:config, but didn't see a
setting for what to insert in the Subject header.

I don't have Google Chrome, or other web browsers, to see what they do
to the Subject header in a new-message compose window when using their
Share, Email Link, or similar function.

If the OP wants the integrated style of a Share mechanism instead of
manual copying/pasting, and doesn't want to erase the Subject header to
then insert his desired string, he should use Youtube's Share button.

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 by: Mayayana - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 11:54 UTC

"John Johnson" <johnjohnson@goodbyespam.invalid> wrote

| Edge has a built in "..." (menu icon) / Share / Default Mail App
| No add-on is needed.
| | > You mention Windows Live Mail 2011.
| | It happens with any mail client.
|

Then just don't share via Edge. Copy the URL from the address
bar and paste it into a real email. Then also type in why your
friend should see this youtube video. If that seems like too much
trouble then maybe it's not worth sending the link in the first place?

Personally, when I get a link like that, with no explanation
of why I should take the trouble to check it out, I "delete
with prejudice".

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 by: VanguardLH - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:17 UTC

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

> Alas, Firefox, my primary web browser, does have a similar function
> under the File menu -> E-mail link, but it prettifies the Subject
> header, too, by inserting the web doc's title into the Subject header.
> I took a quit and not thorough through about:config, but didn't see a
^^^^___ quick
> setting for what to insert in the Subject header.

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 by: Mark Lloyd - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:53 UTC

On 7/30/22 06:54, Mayayana wrote:
> "John Johnson" <johnjohnson@goodbyespam.invalid> wrote
>
> | Edge has a built in "..." (menu icon) / Share / Default Mail App
> | No add-on is needed.
> |
> | > You mention Windows Live Mail 2011.
> |
> | It happens with any mail client.
> |
>
> Then just don't share via Edge. Copy the URL from the address
> bar and paste it into a real email. Then also type in why your
> friend should see this youtube video. If that seems like too much
> trouble then maybe it's not worth sending the link in the first place?
>
> Personally, when I get a link like that, with no explanation
> of why I should take the trouble to check it out, I "delete
> with prejudice".

I seldom use those built in sharing functions. If I want to send
something to someone, I want to do it rather than have the PC pretend to
be me.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities" -- Voltaire

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 by: ...winston - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 18:33 UTC

Boris wrote:
> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share, Default mail
> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
> followed by the title of the URL.
>
> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee (American
> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>
> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
> subject when sharing URLs?
>
> Windows 10
> Windows Live Mail 2011
>

To answer your question.
The 'Check this out' insert is hard coded into the Edge Chromium app.
- i.e. one doesn't get rid of it since no options in Edge, Edge
Development option settings, Group Policy, or the Registry exist to
remove or override.

To comment on others comments about WLM.
- The 'Check this out' annoyance has no relation to WLM(any version)
or any other product(e.g. Outlook)
- WLM11 should be replaced with WLM12(while both WLM11/12 are no
longer supported, WLM11 was only left as an available option to download
when WLM12 was released for Windows Vista compatibility. Any Windows o/s
after Vista where a user decides to use WLM should be WLM12(e.g.
Win7/10/11). The unfortunate part for anyone desiring to use WLM on
Win7/10/11 is the need to obtain it from 3rd party sources or via web
archive...the latter can be problematic since with the backend non
Exchange platform MSFT server still present, some archive links are dead
ends(the WL 2012 Essentials installer no longer present).

Your only option to avoid the 'Check this out' *feature* is to not use
the Share option by creating your own email message and entering your
own desired Subject field text.

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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 by: sticks - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 19:57 UTC

On 7/30/2022 1:33 PM, ...winston wrote:
> Boris wrote:
>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share, Default
>> mail
>> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
>> followed by the title of the URL.
>>
>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee
>> (American
>> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>
>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
>> subject when sharing URLs?
>>
>> Windows 10
>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>>
>
> To answer your question.
>  The 'Check this out' insert is hard coded into the Edge Chromium app.
>   - i.e. one doesn't get rid of it since no options in Edge, Edge
> Development option settings, Group Policy, or the Registry exist to
> remove or override.
>
> To comment on others comments about WLM.
>  - The 'Check this out' annoyance has no relation to WLM(any version)
> or any other product(e.g. Outlook)
>  - WLM11 should be replaced with WLM12(while both WLM11/12 are no
> longer supported, WLM11 was only left as an available option to download
> when WLM12 was released for Windows Vista compatibility. Any Windows o/s
> after Vista where a user decides to use WLM should be WLM12(e.g.
> Win7/10/11). The unfortunate part for anyone desiring to use WLM on
> Win7/10/11 is the need to obtain it from 3rd party sources or via web
> archive...the latter can be problematic since with the backend non
> Exchange platform MSFT server still present, some archive links are dead
> ends(the WL 2012 Essentials installer no longer present).
>
> Your only option to avoid the 'Check this out' *feature* is to not use
> the Share option by creating your own email message and entering your
> own desired Subject field text.
>
>

Which would actually take more time than swiping from right to left to
highlight the words you don't want at the start of the subject of the
email and clicking the delete key before sending.

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 by: Boris - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 02:50 UTC

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:mfajv5y6c0t5$.dlg@v.nguard.lh:

> Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share,
>> Default mail app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email
>> "Check this out", followed by the title of the URL.
>>
>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee
>> (American Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>
>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the
>> email subject when sharing URLs?
>>
>> Windows 10
>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>
> You didn't give the URL to the Youtube video.

Not necessary. As John Johnson says, it happens with any URL, with any
email client, when sharing via Edge. YouTube was just an example.

I searched on your
> string, and found:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8NsoN4S7IE
>
> You didn't mention just how you are sharing this video. Could be you
> are using the Share element in the video page (i.e., Youtube's Share
> button),

Please read my first paragraph carefully. It does state the clicks I make
to share when using Edge, "...and *Edge always* puts in the subject of the
email...", not YouTube.

Also, YouTube does not have an icon titled 'Default mail app'. Edge does.

or some context menu entry or toolbar button for an add-on
> you installed in Edge-C.
>
> You mention Windows Live Mail 2011. Obviously that died over a decade
> ago. You'll be hard pressed waiting for someone who managed to figure
> out how to get it installed in Windows 10,

I did. It was no biggee.

or maybe you did an upgrade
> to Windows 10 instead of a fresh install.

No upgrade. The machine is a Dell that came with Windows 10 Home Premium
factory installed, shipped 9/30/2017. Windows Mail was on it, and I tried
it, didn't like it, so I installed Windows Live Essentials 2011. I had
saved the setup file a few years earlier when it was still available. The
file is wlsetup-all.exe, 220,149 KB. I launched it and let it install
Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Movie Maker, and Windows Live Photo
Gallery. I've use them all and all work fine.

You aren't even using the
> latest version of Windows Live Mail which is 2012. There are many
> free and far superior e-mail clients than Windows Live Mail.

They are superior in ways that matter not to me.

In fact,
> does WLM 2011 (or even 2012) support OAUTH2 that is becoming a
> requirement to log into your e-mail services? Google has started
> demanding e-mail clients support OAUTH2 (although maybe their app
> passwords still work as long as you agree to enable the nuisancesome
> 2FA option that grafts your smartphone to your desktop). Microsoft, I
> believe, started using OAUTH2 several years ago, and they might move
> to requiring it (as the pretense that OAUTH2 makes for a more secure
> e-mail client which is a lie).

You're way off topic. This isn't about WLM. It's about Edge. I did know
that if you replied, you'd bitch about WLM again. By the way, I still like
POP3.

>
> When I tested using MS Edge-C 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64
> 21H2 at the Youtube video page, and clicked Youtube's Share button in
> the video page, and select Email, my e-mail app opens (emClient) to a
> new-mail compose window. The Youtube URL gets pasted into the body of
> the message, but the To and Subject headers are blank.

I have Edge 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64. Same thing happens here
*if* I use the YouTube share button. No surprise. But I'm not asking
YouTube to do the sharing. I'm asking Edge.

>I was NOT
> logged into my Google account when I visited Youtube.

I don't have a Google account.

>
> You don't mention just how you are "sharing" the video, like if you
> are using Youtube's Share button, or some context menu or add-on in
> Edge.

I answered this criticism the first time you made it in your reply. Scroll
back to the top of this post.
>
> You mention using MS Edge-C (presumably you are using the new Chromium
> variant of Edge that uses Google's Chromium rendering engine and
> Google's V8 scripting engine, and not some ancient version of Edge
> still using Microsoft's HTMLEdge rendering engine and scripting
> engine), but no mention of version of MS Edge-C nor what add-ons you
> installed in it.

On the Windows 10 Home x64 machine in this post, I have Edge Version
103.0.1264.77 (Official build) (64-bit). And, on my Windows 7 SP1 machine
(from which I'm posting this OP and all replies), I also have Edge Version
103.0.1264.77 (Official build) (64-bit). Both versions of Edge report
"Microsoft Edge is up to date." However, there are some grapghical and
setting differences between this same version when on Windows 7 and Windows
10. But, both act the same way with emailing links. They create "Check
this out" in the email subject, when using the Edge Share function.

But, the Edge on my Windows 7 allows me to create a tab that does launch my
WLM 2011 and does not add "Check this out". I explain this at the end of
this post.

>
> Not only does the Subject header in my e-mail client not have "Check
> this out", but it also does not have the title of the video. For me,
> the new-mail compose window's Subject is completely blank...

Of course, when using YouTube share. Same here.

>
> I logged into Youtube to click on Youtube's Share button, but still
> got an e-mail new-mail compose window with a blank Subject. I went
> through all my Youtube settings, but did not find one that specifies
> what, if anything, to include in the Subject header of an e-mail used
> for sharing (sending) the URL of the Youtube video page.

You're on a wild goose chase. That's not the goose I'm chasing.

>
> Could the the pre-filling of the Subject header is a "feature" of WLM
> that you are still using.

No. If it was, I'd have asked long ago.

Have you tried using a different e-mail
> client, and making it the default e-mail program, to test what happens
> when however you share the Youtube video?

As John Johnson has said, the email client matters not. And, the URL also
matters not. YouTube has nothing to do with this.

I do want to say that I've found an answer to my question. But it's
different for different installs of the same version of Edge. Seems to
depend on the Windows verson upon which Edge is installed.

For Edge version 103.0.1264.77, if installed on Windows 7, I was able to go
to any URL, place it on the Favorites bar, then go back and Edit the URL
to:

javascript:location.href='mailto:?SUBJECT=%27+document.title+%27&BODY=%27
+escape(location.href);

and rename the tab to Email link, or anyting you want. I've done this on
many Chrome based browsers that don't have emailing links feature built in.

If the same version of Edge is installed on Windows 10 Home, 21H2, as
represented in this post, the javascript is the same, but it must be
assigned to the Home button. I don't see a way to assign it to it's own
tab. I've assigned the script to the Home button in Windows 10, and it
works great. If I want to 'go Home', I just click on New Tab, and I'm sent
to my Home page.

Before you (typically) complain that the poster has not given enough
information, you should read the post more carefully. And, rather than
complain about what software others use and like, accept that others may
use and like different software than you.

I did look up emClient. Not my cup of tea, more than I need, and not good
reviews. Too much updating that breaks things.

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 by: Boris - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 03:04 UTC

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:mfajv5y6c0t5$.dlg@v.nguard.lh:

> Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share,
>> Default mail app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email
>> "Check this out", followed by the title of the URL.
>>
>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee
>> (American Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>
>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the
>> email subject when sharing URLs?
>>
>> Windows 10
>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>
> You didn't give the URL to the Youtube video. I searched on your
> string, and found:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8NsoN4S7IE
>
> You didn't mention just how you are sharing this video. Could be you
> are using the Share element in the video page (i.e., Youtube's Share
> button), or some context menu entry or toolbar button for an add-on
> you installed in Edge-C.
>
> You mention Windows Live Mail 2011. Obviously that died over a decade
> ago. You'll be hard pressed waiting for someone who managed to figure
> out how to get it installed in Windows 10, or maybe you did an upgrade
> to Windows 10 instead of a fresh install. You aren't even using the
> latest version of Windows Live Mail which is 2012.

I forgot to mention that I have Windows Live Mail 2012 installed on my
wife's Windows 10 Home, factory installed, laptop. Not an upgrade from
Windows 7. Works great.

I have heard that WLM can be successfully installed on a factory install
of Windows 11. Who knows, though. Not sure when I'll go to Windows 11
to find out.

There are many
> free and far superior e-mail clients than Windows Live Mail. In fact,
> does WLM 2011 (or even 2012) support OAUTH2 that is becoming a
> requirement to log into your e-mail services? Google has started
> demanding e-mail clients support OAUTH2 (although maybe their app
> passwords still work as long as you agree to enable the nuisancesome
> 2FA option that grafts your smartphone to your desktop). Microsoft, I
> believe, started using OAUTH2 several years ago, and they might move
> to requiring it (as the pretense that OAUTH2 makes for a more secure
> e-mail client which is a lie).
>
> When I tested using MS Edge-C 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64
> 21H2 at the Youtube video page, and clicked Youtube's Share button in
> the video page, and select Email, my e-mail app opens (emClient) to a
> new-mail compose window. The Youtube URL gets pasted into the body of
> the message, but the To and Subject headers are blank. I was NOT
> logged into my Google account when I visited Youtube.
>
> You don't mention just how you are "sharing" the video, like if you
> are using Youtube's Share button, or some context menu or add-on in
> Edge.
>
> You mention using MS Edge-C (presumably you are using the new Chromium
> variant of Edge that uses Google's Chromium rendering engine and
> Google's V8 scripting engine, and not some ancient version of Edge
> still using Microsoft's HTMLEdge rendering engine and scripting
> engine), but no mention of version of MS Edge-C nor what add-ons you
> installed in it.
>
> Not only does the Subject header in my e-mail client not have "Check
> this out", but it also does not have the title of the video. For me,
> the new-mail compose window's Subject is completely blank.
>
> I logged into Youtube to click on Youtube's Share button, but still
> got an e-mail new-mail compose window with a blank Subject. I went
> through all my Youtube settings, but did not find one that specifies
> what, if anything, to include in the Subject header of an e-mail used
> for sharing (sending) the URL of the Youtube video page.
>
> Could the the pre-filling of the Subject header is a "feature" of WLM
> that you are still using. Have you tried using a different e-mail
> client, and making it the default e-mail program, to test what happens
> when however you share the Youtube video?

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 by: VanguardLH - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 04:05 UTC

Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>> In fact, does WLM 2011 (or even 2012) support OAUTH2 that is becoming
>> a requirement to log into your e-mail services?
>
> You're way off topic. This isn't about WLM. It's about Edge. I did
> know that if you replied, you'd bitch about WLM again. By the way, I
> still like POP3.

No web browser uses OAUTH2. Just e-mail clients.

> I have Edge 103.0.1264.77 on Windows 10 Home x64. Same thing happens
> here *if* I use the YouTube share button. No surprise. But I'm not
> asking YouTube to do the sharing. I'm asking Edge.

The Youtube Share button does not populate the Subject header in the
new-message compose window in the local e-mail client.

>> You don't mention just how you are "sharing" the video, like if you
>> are using Youtube's Share button, or some context menu or add-on in
>> Edge.
>
> I answered this criticism the first time you made it in your reply.
> Scroll back to the top of this post.

This was my first reply to you. I cannot address comments you add in
later replies.

Your starter article was submitted at 9:41PM on 7/29/2022 (biased to my
timezone). My reply to you was at 11:35 PM on 7/29/2022. My reply to
John was at 4 AM on 7/30/2022. Your next reply to anyone was 17 hours
later. How could I address a topic that had not yet been offered?

>> Not only does the Subject header in my e-mail client not have "Check
>> this out", but it also does not have the title of the video. For me,
>> the new-mail compose window's Subject is completely blank...
>
> Of course, when using YouTube share. Same here.

As mentioned, both Edge and Firefox prettify the Subject header when
using their "share" mechanism. If you don't want the Subject
pre-filled, don't use those web browsers. I don't have Chrome to test.

>> I logged into Youtube to click on Youtube's Share button, but still
>> got an e-mail new-mail compose window with a blank Subject. I went
>> through all my Youtube settings, but did not find one that specifies
>> what, if anything, to include in the Subject header of an e-mail used
>> for sharing (sending) the URL of the Youtube video page.
>
> You're on a wild goose chase. That's not the goose I'm chasing.

That's what happens when you don't describe HOW to performed an action.

> As John Johnson has said, the email client matters not. And, the URL also
> matters not. YouTube has nothing to do with this.

And neither does the e-mail client NOW that someone mentioned you're
probably using the Share mechanism in Edge.

> I do want to say that I've found an answer to my question. But it's
> different for different installs of the same version of Edge. Seems
> to depend on the Windows verson upon which Edge is installed.

The prettified Subject header doesn't happen by Edge when its Share
function is used on different versions of Windows?

My guess is the web browser's Share/EmailLink feature merely uses the
mailto:// URL to send the arguments to whatever is currently assigned as
the e-mail client.

https://developer.yoast.com/blog/guide-mailto-links/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6068

The web clients are adding the subject="webdoctitle" argument to the
mailto URL.

> For Edge version 103.0.1264.77, if installed on Windows 7, I was able
> to go to any URL, place it on the Favorites bar, then go back and
> Edit the URL to:
>
> javascript:location.href='mailto:?SUBJECT=%27+document.title+%27&BODY=%27
> +escape(location.href);

I'm not sure the bookmark needs to be Javascripted.

> Before you (typically) complain that the poster has not given enough
> information, you should read the post more carefully.

I did for what information you chose to provide. My reply cannot
address comments you add LATER hence why I probed how you commited the
sharing action.

> And, rather than complain about what software others use and like,
> accept that others may use and like different software than you.

The manual method of copy/paste of the URL in the address bar was also
suggested by Mayanana.

> I did look up emClient. Not my cup of tea, more than I need, and not good
> reviews. Too much updating that breaks things.

Looks like it is the fault of the web clients adding the subject
argument to the mailto URL. I didn't find Edge or Firefox let you
specify how they construct the mailto URL.

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 by: VanguardLH - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 04:16 UTC

sticks <wolverine.01@charter.net> wrote:

> ...winston wrote:
>
>> Your only option to avoid the 'Check this out' *feature* is to not use
>> the Share option by creating your own email message and entering your
>> own desired Subject field text.
>
> Which would actually take more time than swiping from right to left to
> highlight the words you don't want at the start of the subject of the
> email and clicking the delete key before sending.

Boris didn't say he wanted to keep any of the pre-filled string in the
Subject header. As you mention, Boris could drag the mouse to highlight
the entire Subject header to then enter whatever he wanted.
Triple-clicking likely also selects (highlights) the entire Subject
string: triple-click in the Subject, and just start entering whatever
you want in the Subject header.

Youtube's Share button leaves the Subject blank. The web browsers'
Share/EmailLink function makes non-blank the Subject. It is possible
the user forgets to put a non-blank string in the Subject: they could
end up clicking Send with a blank Subject. A blank Subject can run
afoul of anti-spam filters.

While my e-mail providers don't let me define a rule checking if the
Subject is blank, they may flag a message with a blank Subject as spam,
and dump it in the Junk/Spam folder. I do have a client-side rule that
looks for messages with blank Subjects: if found, they get marked as
read, and deleted.

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 by: ...winston - Mon, 1 Aug 2022 17:51 UTC

sticks wrote:
> On 7/30/2022 1:33 PM, ...winston wrote:
>> Boris wrote:
>>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share,
>>> Default mail
>>> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this out",
>>> followed by the title of the URL.
>>>
>>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee
>>> (American
>>> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>>
>>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the email
>>> subject when sharing URLs?
>>>
>>> Windows 10
>>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>>>
>>
>> To answer your question.
>>   The 'Check this out' insert is hard coded into the Edge Chromium app.
>>    - i.e. one doesn't get rid of it since no options in Edge, Edge
>> Development option settings, Group Policy, or the Registry exist to
>> remove or override.
>>
>> To comment on others comments about WLM.
>>   - The 'Check this out' annoyance has no relation to WLM(any version)
>> or any other product(e.g. Outlook)
>>   - WLM11 should be replaced with WLM12(while both WLM11/12 are no
>> longer supported, WLM11 was only left as an available option to
>> download when WLM12 was released for Windows Vista compatibility. Any
>> Windows o/s after Vista where a user decides to use WLM should be
>> WLM12(e.g. Win7/10/11). The unfortunate part for anyone desiring to
>> use WLM on Win7/10/11 is the need to obtain it from 3rd party sources
>> or via web archive...the latter can be problematic since with the
>> backend non Exchange platform MSFT server still present, some archive
>> links are dead ends(the WL 2012 Essentials installer no longer present).
>>
>> Your only option to avoid the 'Check this out' *feature* is to not use
>> the Share option by creating your own email message and entering your
>> own desired Subject field text.
>>
>>
>
> Which would actually take more time than swiping from right to left to
> highlight the words you don't want at the start of the subject of the
> email and clicking the delete key before sending.

Yes, that option was mentioned earlier.
But doing so, doesn't avoid the 'Check this out' annoyance nor the two
or three clicks before having access to the email and swipe followed by
deletion.
-i.e. The answer to op's question "How do I get rid of the 'Check this
out' thing.
=> You don't when using Edge's Share feature

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 by: Boris - Tue, 2 Aug 2022 01:27 UTC

"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in
news:tc93q8$12e42$1@dont-email.me:

> sticks wrote:
>> On 7/30/2022 1:33 PM, ...winston wrote:
>>> Boris wrote:
>>>> When using Edge, and I want to send a URL link, I press Share,
>>>> Default mail
>>>> app, and Edge always puts in the subject of the email "Check this
>>>> out", followed by the title of the URL.
>>>>
>>>> For instance: Check this out - The Highwaymen - Me and BobbyMcGee
>>>> (American
>>>> Outlaws at Nassau Coliseum, 1990) - YouTube
>>>>
>>>> How do I get rid of the "Check this out" thing, which prepends the
>>>> email subject when sharing URLs?
>>>>
>>>> Windows 10
>>>> Windows Live Mail 2011
>>>>
>>>
>>> To answer your question.
>>>   The 'Check this out' insert is hard coded into the Edge Chromium
>>> app.    - i.e. one doesn't get rid of it since no options in Edge,
>>> Edge Development option settings, Group Policy, or the Registry
>>> exist to remove or override.
>>>
>>> To comment on others comments about WLM.
>>>   - The 'Check this out' annoyance has no relation to WLM(any
>>> version) or any other product(e.g. Outlook)
>>>   - WLM11 should be replaced with WLM12(while both WLM11/12 are no
>>> longer supported, WLM11 was only left as an available option to
>>> download when WLM12 was released for Windows Vista compatibility.
>>> Any Windows o/s after Vista where a user decides to use WLM should
>>> be WLM12(e.g. Win7/10/11). The unfortunate part for anyone desiring
>>> to use WLM on Win7/10/11 is the need to obtain it from 3rd party
>>> sources or via web archive...the latter can be problematic since
>>> with the backend non Exchange platform MSFT server still present,
>>> some archive links are dead ends(the WL 2012 Essentials installer no
>>> longer present).
>>>
>>> Your only option to avoid the 'Check this out' *feature* is to not
>>> use the Share option by creating your own email message and entering
>>> your own desired Subject field text.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Which would actually take more time than swiping from right to left
>> to highlight the words you don't want at the start of the subject of
>> the email and clicking the delete key before sending.
>
> Yes, that option was mentioned earlier.
> But doing so, doesn't avoid the 'Check this out' annoyance nor the two
> or three clicks before having access to the email and swipe followed
> by deletion.
> -i.e. The answer to op's question "How do I get rid of the 'Check
> this
> out' thing.
> => You don't when using Edge's Share feature
>

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