Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?

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On 05/08/2023 09:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
> Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?
>

Yes, VirtualBox install.

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On 05/08/2023 09:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
> Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?

I'm currently using LMDE 5 with Cinnamon and finding it just as good for
my domestic and small office situation as LM.

Because it may well become unsupported in less than a year's time, I am
only using it as a secondary system and 'Live' from a HDD rather than a
conventional install. Debian's Live scripts are more versatile than
Ubuntu's Casper ones and it is much easier to Save Changes on LMDE than
on LM. (I have set a password and some bookmarks point to key
directories on my primary system, which is LM 19.3. )

With kind regards,
David in Co Longford

On 05/08/2023 11:09, David Catterall wrote:
> On 05/08/2023 09:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?
>
> I'm currently using LMDE 5 with Cinnamon and finding it just as good for
> my domestic and small office situation as LM.
>
> Because it may well become unsupported in less than a year's time, I am
> only using it as a secondary system and 'Live' from a HDD rather than a
> conventional install. Debian's Live scripts are more versatile than
> Ubuntu's Casper ones and it is much easier to Save Changes on LMDE than
> on LM. (I have set a password and some bookmarks point to key
> directories on my primary system, which is LM 19.3. )

Interesting, but why do you think it'll become unsupported? From the LM
blog it looks like they are working on LMDE 6. Or were you referring to
only 32-bit support?

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On 05/08/2023 11:26, Jeff Layman wrote:

> why do you think it'll become unsupported? From the LM blog it looks
> like they are working on LMDE 6.

I was referring to LMDE 5 .

D.

Jeff Layman wrote:
> Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?
>
Not what you said/asked, but...

LM the Ub has 'policy'/configuration advantages over Ub, ie snap,
flatpak, Mint tools
LM the Deb has advantages and disadvantages compared to other Deb
deriv/s. It has LM tools, it is a LM Cinnamon; as a Deb stable it has
advantages and disadvantages compared to other Debs such as those which
are testing.

Deb testing is more 'up-to-date' and also more 'rolling' than Deb
stable, eg compare/contrast the Sparky Deb/s which come in various
DE/WMs and in stable vs testing.

Both LMDE and Sparky have advantages over 'base' Debs in terms of
free/non-free but now Deb is becoming 'looser' re non-free opportunities
for use.

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On 2023-08-05, David Catterall wrote:
> [...] I have set a password and some bookmarks point to key
> directories on my primary system, which is LM 19.3.

Why're you running an EOL version as "primary system" ?

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On 07/08/2023 15:08, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Why're you running an EOL version as "primary system" ?

Hi Dan,

It only became EOL last April and I haven't got around to upgrading yet. :-D

When I do, I think I'll go for LMDE 6 and in the meantime use my Live
‘Poor Man's Install’ of LMDE for any risky behaviour!

Cheers,
David in Co Longford.

On 2023-08-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Anyone here using Debian Edition in preference to the Ubuntu-based LM?
>

Not LMDE, but I recently installed Debian 12.1 from the Live USB Cinnamon
USB. It now includes the non-free repository by default. Not a whole lot
different than installing Linux Mint Cinnamon 21. But this is the first
install that I've used that defaults to kernel 6.1.xxx. So I guess it's more
on the "edge" than Linux Mint. (I think "Bookworm" is the new Debian Stable,
though, not the testing version.)

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RonB wrote:
> Not LMDE, but I recently installed Debian 12.1 from the Live USB
> Cinnamon USB. It now includes the non-free repository by default. Not
> a whole lot different than installing Linux Mint Cinnamon 21. But
> this is the first install that I've used that defaults to kernel
> 6.1.xxx. So I guess it's more on the "edge" than Linux Mint. (I think
> "Bookworm" is the new Debian Stable, though, not the testing
> version.)

Speaking of 'edge', the LMDE 6 plans include:

> In parallel to LMDE 6 we’re also planning to release an EDGE ISO for
> Linux Mint 21.2. This ISO will feature a kernel 6.2 and make it
> easier to boot Mint on brand new hardware.

And, Sparky Linux's current roller testing v is 6.3

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On 2023-08-10, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>> Not LMDE, but I recently installed Debian 12.1 from the Live USB
>> Cinnamon USB. It now includes the non-free repository by default. Not
>> a whole lot different than installing Linux Mint Cinnamon 21. But
>> this is the first install that I've used that defaults to kernel
>> 6.1.xxx. So I guess it's more on the "edge" than Linux Mint. (I think
>> "Bookworm" is the new Debian Stable, though, not the testing
>> version.)
>
> Speaking of 'edge', the LMDE 6 plans include:
>
>> In parallel to LMDE 6 we’re also planning to release an EDGE ISO for
>> Linux Mint 21.2. This ISO will feature a kernel 6.2 and make it
>> easier to boot Mint on brand new hardware.

I guess this is more important for those who use cutting edge hardware. I'm
pretty much the opposite but it's still interesting. I'll probably try out
LMDE 6 when it comes out — not sure about the Edge version, seems kind of
opposite of Linux Mint's stable release tradition. (But I understand why
they're doing it.)

> And, Sparky Linux's current roller testing v is 6.3

I might take a look at this one to see how it works on the old, underpowered
laptops I still have (but need to get rid of).

Thanks for the heads up.

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RonB wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>> And, Sparky Linux's current roller testing v is 6.3
>
> I might take a look at this one to see how it works on the old, underpowered
> laptops I still have (but need to get rid of).
>
Sparky has a lot of choices, two groups, the stable and the testing
roller and lots of different DEs, or a WM or a CLI. No default Cinnamon.

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Mike Easter

On 2023-08-10, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>>> And, Sparky Linux's current roller testing v is 6.3
>>
>> I might take a look at this one to see how it works on the old, underpowered
>> laptops I still have (but need to get rid of).
>>
> Sparky has a lot of choices, two groups, the stable and the testing
> roller and lots of different DEs, or a WM or a CLI. No default Cinnamon.

I've downloaded the Stable Mate version and will try it out. Thanks.

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