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Thunderbird stopped flying

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From: pinner...@gmail.com (pinnerite)
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Subject: Thunderbird stopped flying
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 20:18:58 +0100
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by: pinnerite - Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:18 UTC

Today I installed a Thunderbird update version 102.15.1.

This afternoon, I can receive emails but cannot send.

I can send and receive messages to/from alt.comp.test NG so it cannot be caused by firewalls etc.

I wondered if it could be the default outging SMPT server. That seems OK.
Changing it another made no difference.

When I click Send, the top menu ond the Subject field grey out.

TIA

Alan

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From: mm+use...@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: Re: Thunderbird stopped flying
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by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:25 UTC

Am 14.09.2023 schrieb pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com>:

> Today I installed a Thunderbird update version 102.15.1.
>
> This afternoon, I can receive emails but cannot send.
>
> I can send and receive messages to/from alt.comp.test NG so it cannot
> be caused by firewalls etc.

Usenet uses 119/563 and mail uses 587/465 and maybe 25, all TCP.
Check if you can reach you server with
telnet <server-IP> <port>

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by: pinnerite - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:56 UTC

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:25:13 +0200
Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Am 14.09.2023 schrieb pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com>:
>
> > Today I installed a Thunderbird update version 102.15.1.
> >
> > This afternoon, I can receive emails but cannot send.
> >
> > I can send and receive messages to/from alt.comp.test NG so it cannot
> > be caused by firewalls etc.
>
> Usenet uses 119/563 and mail uses 587/465 and maybe 25, all TCP.
> Check if you can reach you server with
> telnet <server-IP> <port>
>

It returns that the 465 is open!

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by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 11:04 UTC

Am 15.09.2023 schrieb pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com>:

> It returns that the 465 is open!

Then firewall isn't the problem.
Try to send an email again.
Maybe install Wireshark and do sniffing. You should see the TCP
handshake to the SMTP sever.

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by: pinnerite - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:16 UTC

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:04:08 +0200
Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Am 15.09.2023 schrieb pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com>:
>
> > It returns that the 465 is open!
>
> Then firewall isn't the problem.
> Try to send an email again.
> Maybe install Wireshark and do sniffing. You should see the TCP
> handshake to the SMTP sever.
>

I did as you said.
Started it sniffing.
Tried to send an email ..... and it went and so has another!
I don't get it.
I'm frightened it won't last. :(

Thank you,

Alan

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by: Edmund - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:49 UTC

On 9/15/23 16:16, pinnerite wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:04:08 +0200
> Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 15.09.2023 schrieb pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> It returns that the 465 is open!
>>
>> Then firewall isn't the problem.
>> Try to send an email again.
>> Maybe install Wireshark and do sniffing. You should see the TCP
>> handshake to the SMTP sever.
>>
>
> I did as you said.
> Started it sniffing.
> Tried to send an email ..... and it went and so has another!
> I don't get it.
> I'm frightened it won't last. :(
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan

Reboot your router!
Not kidding.

Edmund

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Subject	Author
Thunderbird stopped flying	pinnerite
Re: Thunderbird stopped flying	Marco Moock
Re: Thunderbird stopped flying	pinnerite
Re: Thunderbird stopped flying	Marco Moock
Re: Thunderbird stopped flying	pinnerite
Re: Thunderbird stopped flying	Edmund