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* Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
+- Re: Draw a route in a mapAndy Burns
+- Re: Draw a route in a mapHerbert Kleebauer
+* Re: Draw a route in a mapVanguardLH
|`* Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
| `* Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
|  +* Re: Draw a route in a mapAndy Burns
|  |`* Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
|  | +* Re: Draw a route in a mapAndy Burns
|  | |`- Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
|  | +- Re: Draw a route in a mapmicky
|  | `* Re: Draw a route in a mapFrank Slootweg
|  |  `* Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E.R.
|  |   `* Re: Draw a route in a mapmicky
|  |    `- Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E.R.
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|   `* Re: Draw a route in a mapCarlos E. R.
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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 09:59 UTC

Hi,

I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
the first to the last.

I have bought something that is coming from China and they are updating
where it is each day, and I'm curious to map the route they take. Of
course I have no idea what transport they are using, but never mind.

Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.

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Carlos E.R.

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:05 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote

> I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
> the first to the last.
>
> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.

No, it can do more than that, e.g.

<https://google.com/maps/dir/london/paris/berlin/rome>

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 by: Herbert Kleebauer - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:13 UTC

On 24.03.2023 10:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
> the first to the last.
>
> I have bought something that is coming from China and they are updating
> where it is each day, and I'm curious to map the route they take. Of
> course I have no idea what transport they are using, but never mind.
>
> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.

Try https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/

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 by: VanguardLH - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 11:21 UTC

"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.

There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the
way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.

When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange,
drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 12:32 UTC

On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>
> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the
> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
> its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
>
> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange,
> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.

Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 13:07 UTC

On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>
>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you want the
>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>
>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To rearrange,
>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>
> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>

LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.

Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.

OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.

<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 13:19 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.

It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea

> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 13:30 UTC

On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>
>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>
> It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
> China to S.Korea

Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.

To me, even a straight line would be good. Or a suggestion of
possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:53 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
> the first to the last.

Hi Carlos,
This answer isn't a direct answer - but it could directly answer it
depending on the power of the web & Windows applications listed below.

You apparently need a route that is for vehicles, but for you perhaps
(and certainly for others), the base capability of "drawing a route
on Windows", "saving to your phone" & then "routing" does exist
(but note the caveat that I'm hiking and you are likely driving).

Mostly I use caltopo to draw a route I download to my phone to route...
but (and this is a biggie), what I use it for is to draw a route on a
*topographical* map & save to my phone so that I can follow that map
(and this is another biggie) by routing on foot.
<https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=37.9442,16.61133&z=5&b=mbt>
<https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#4/40.01/-100.06>
Those web sites are so powerful, I wouldn't doubt if they actually do
road routing also, given a few waypoints, but you'd have to check.

Generally I load gpx results into a "visual routing" Android app,
although I wrote a tutorial a while ago on "verbal routing" apps.
Avenza: <https://www.avenzamaps.com/maps/how-it-works.html>
PaperMaps: <https://www.paper-maps.com/>

There is also excellent Windows software that draws routes, but again,
I've never tested any of them outside backcountry hiking in the USA.

Google Earth (which does fantastic topographical routing if you know how!)
<https://www.google.com/earth/about/versions/#download-pro>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.earth>

QGIS
<https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html>

GDal
<http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/v2/osgeo4w-setup.exe>

GPS Babel
<https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>

Added sci.geo.satellite-nav
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to faithfully add value for Windows mapping apps.

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 15:17 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> To me, even a straight line would be good. Or a suggestion of
> possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.

You can create your own map at <https://mymaps.google.com>

type a city name, it'll drop a pushpin

add lines, click and drag them, it seems to turn them into great circle
routes, e.g.

<https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1fU18uwjnkHIwGMM4t4FLiW8AhXefSDA&ll=29.588703817370344%2C61.500708&z=4>

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:03 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
> On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>>
>>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you want the
>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>>
>>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
>>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To rearrange,
>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>>
>> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>>
>
>
> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>
> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
>
> OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
>
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
>
>
Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes within
China to some other countries.

Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat the
latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
- possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country the
single line may apply until local to your country tracking.

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:21 UTC

On 2023-03-24 16:17, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> To me, even a straight line would be good. Or a suggestion of
>> possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.
>
> You can create your own map at <https://mymaps.google.com>
>
> type a city name, it'll drop a pushpin
>
> add lines, click and drag them, it seems to turn them into great circle
> routes, e.g.
>
> <https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1fU18uwjnkHIwGMM4t4FLiW8AhXefSDA&ll=29.588703817370344%2C61.500708&z=4>

Hey! That's just the thing :-)

Creation wants one to login first, though. Will try later.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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 by: Carlos E. R. - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:00 UTC

On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
>> On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>>>
>>>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you want the
>>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>>>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>>>
>>>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
>>>> menu
>>>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To rearrange,
>>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>>>
>>> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>
>> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
>>
>> OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
>>
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
>>
> Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
> Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
> search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes within
> China to some other countries.
>
> Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
> the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
>  - possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
> destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
> the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
>

They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery
time astonishes me.

Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a profit.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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 by: micky - Fri, 24 Mar 2023 23:24 UTC

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:30:00 +0100, "Carlos
E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>
>> It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
>> China to S.Korea
>
>Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
>
>To me, even a straight line would be good.

In google maps, right click on spot, then bottom choice is Meeasure
Distance, and then consecutive spots. It makes lines and adds up
distances.

> Or a suggestion of
>possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.

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 by: Brian Gregory - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 00:38 UTC

On 24/03/2023 18:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
>>> On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you want
>>>>> the
>>>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>>>>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
>>>>> menu
>>>>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To
>>>>> rearrange,
>>>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>>>>
>>>> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>
>>> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
>>>
>>> OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
>>>
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
>>>
>> Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
>> Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
>> search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
>> within China to some other countries.
>>
>> Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
>> the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
>>   - possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
>> destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
>> the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
>>
>
> They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
> bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery
> time astonishes me.
>
> Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a profit.

I think China heavily subsidises their postal and other international
carrier services in order to ensure they continue towards total world
domination of all manufacturing.

--
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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 07:19 UTC

Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 11:00 AM:
> On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
>>> On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you want the
>>>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>>>>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
>>>>> menu
>>>>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To rearrange,
>>>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>>>>
>>>> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>
>>> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
>>>
>>> OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
>>>
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
>>>
>>>
>> Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
>> Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
>> search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
>> within China to some other countries.
>>
>> Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
>> the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
>>   - possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
>> destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
>> the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
>>
>
> They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
> bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery time
> astonishes me.
>
> Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a profit.
>
>
While China companies do receive lower shipping rates(subsidized by the
end destination country)...but that subsidy also depends on the end
country destination.
In 2021 lower global shipping fees to European countries ended,
allowing those affected countries to raise their pricing and not pay
subsidies.

Subsidization standards and pricing(including discounted amounts) was
originally done via the UPU(Universal Posting Union, an international
postal organization for developed countries). Like Europe, the U.S. ended
discounted pricing for China(as a result China raised their costs(Express
Mail Service to outbound U.S. destinations about 13% for the first 0.5 Kg
shipped ~$4; additional weights are much less).

The avg hourly wage in China is about $25 yuan/hour approx. equal to
$3.70/hour U.S. That pc that took a few hours(if at all to build) cost
less than $10 of labor to build.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 11:41 UTC

On 2023-03-25 08:19, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 11:00 AM:
>> On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
>>>> On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon).  If you
>>>>>> want the
>>>>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
>>>>>> its left.  That is when using a desktop web browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the
>>>>>> 3-dot menu
>>>>>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop.  To
>>>>>> rearrange,
>>>>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>>
>>>> Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
>>>>
>>>> OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
>>>>
>>> Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
>>> Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
>>> search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
>>> within China to some other countries.
>>>
>>> Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
>>> the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
>>>   - possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
>>> destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
>>> the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
>>>
>>
>> They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
>> bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery
>> time astonishes me.
>>
>> Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a
>> profit.
>>
>>
> While China companies do receive lower shipping rates(subsidized by the
> end destination country)...but that subsidy also depends on the end
> country destination.
>  In 2021 lower global shipping fees to European countries ended,
> allowing those affected countries to raise their pricing and not pay
> subsidies.
>
> Subsidization standards and pricing(including discounted amounts) was
> originally done via the UPU(Universal Posting Union, an international
> postal organization for developed countries). Like Europe, the U.S.
> ended discounted pricing for China(as a result China raised their
> costs(Express Mail Service to outbound U.S. destinations about 13% for
> the first 0.5 Kg shipped ~$4; additional weights are much less).
>
> The avg hourly wage in China is about $25 yuan/hour approx. equal to
> $3.70/hour U.S.  That pc that took a few hours(if at all to build) cost
> less than $10 of labor to build.
>

Yes, that makes sense.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 15:03 UTC

Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >
> >
> >> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
> >
> > It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
> > China to S.Korea
>
> Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.

It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by
Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.

[...]

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On Mar 24, 2023, Andy Burnelli wrote (in article
<news:tvkdhn$34qs2$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
>> the first to the last.
>
> Hi Carlos,
> This answer isn't a direct answer - but it could directly answer it
> depending on the power of the web & Windows applications listed below.
>
> You apparently need a route that is for vehicles, but for you perhaps
> (and certainly for others), the base capability of "drawing a route
> on Windows", "saving to your phone" & then "routing" does exist
> (but note the caveat that I'm hiking and you are likely driving).
>
> Mostly I use caltopo to draw a route I download to my phone to route...
> but (and this is a biggie), what I use it for is to draw a route on a
> *topographical* map & save to my phone so that I can follow that map
> (and this is another biggie) by routing on foot.
> <https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=37.9442,16.61133&z=5&b=mbt>
> <https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#4/40.01/-100.06>
> Those web sites are so powerful, I wouldn't doubt if they actually do
> road routing also, given a few waypoints, but you'd have to check.
>
> Generally I load gpx results into a "visual routing" Android app,
> although I wrote a tutorial a while ago on "verbal routing" apps.
> Avenza: <https://www.avenzamaps.com/maps/how-it-works.html>
> PaperMaps: <https://www.paper-maps.com/>
>
> There is also excellent Windows software that draws routes, but again,
> I've never tested any of them outside backcountry hiking in the USA.
>
> Google Earth (which does fantastic topographical routing if you know how!)
> <https://www.google.com/earth/about/versions/#download-pro>
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.earth>
>
> QGIS
> <https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html>
>
> GDal
> <http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/v2/osgeo4w-setup.exe>
>
> GPS Babel
> <https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>
>
> Added sci.geo.satellite-nav

Do they work in countries outside the us map app hegemony?

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:44 UTC

On 2023-03-25 16:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>
>>> It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
>>> China to S.Korea
>>
>> Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
>
> It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by
> Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
>
> [...]

The map posted by Andy Burns is very good. The caveat is that it
requires one to login to create one.

The method posted by micky is also interesting, but I haven't got around
to testing it yet.

The method posted by Fritz Wuehler is nice and easy, but it just marks
the cities (1, 2, 3, 4), does not join them with lines, unless I am
missing some option somewhere.

It is using openstreet map, which seems to print the city names in the
language and script of the place, which is not readable to me. Maybe,
again, that is some option somewhere.

All good. Now I must go out to catch some dinner in the supermarket :-)

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: micky - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:12 UTC

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:44:43 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2023-03-25 16:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>>
>>>> It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
>>>> China to S.Korea
>>>
>>> Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
>>
>> It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by
>> Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
>>
>> [...]
>
>The map posted by Andy Burns is very good. The caveat is that it
>requires one to login to create one.
>
>The method posted by micky is also interesting, but I haven't got around
>to testing it yet.

Of course you don't have to go simply starting to ending place. If the
highway doglegs or zigzags, you can put in as many segments as you want.

I've used it a lot in town, like to see how far it was for my father
when he walked to work, choosing the route he would have taken.

>The method posted by Fritz Wuehler is nice and easy, but it just marks
>the cities (1, 2, 3, 4), does not join them with lines, unless I am
>missing some option somewhere.
>
>It is using openstreet map, which seems to print the city names in the
>language and script of the place, which is not readable to me. Maybe,

You don't read Chinese? And yet you shop there. How imperialistic!

>again, that is some option somewhere.
>
>
>All good. Now I must go out to catch some dinner in the supermarket :-)

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 25 Mar 2023 21:50 UTC

On 2023-03-25 22:12, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:44:43 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-03-25 16:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
>>>>> China to S.Korea
>>>>
>>>> Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
>>>
>>> It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by
>>> Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> The map posted by Andy Burns is very good. The caveat is that it
>> requires one to login to create one.
>>
>> The method posted by micky is also interesting, but I haven't got around
>> to testing it yet.
>
> Of course you don't have to go simply starting to ending place. If the
> highway doglegs or zigzags, you can put in as many segments as you want.
>
> I've used it a lot in town, like to see how far it was for my father
> when he walked to work, choosing the route he would have taken.

Oh, but I have no idea of the actual route. This is a laptop shipped
from China to me, and I got an URL that lists where it gets to and
departs from. So, I'm just curious to see the cities in a world map and
approximate distances. It is just for my entertainment.

>
>> The method posted by Fritz Wuehler is nice and easy, but it just marks
>> the cities (1, 2, 3, 4), does not join them with lines, unless I am
>> missing some option somewhere.
>>
>> It is using openstreet map, which seems to print the city names in the
>> language and script of the place, which is not readable to me. Maybe,
>
> You don't read Chinese? And yet you shop there. How imperialistic!

:-D

The Lenovo web page is fully in Spanish, and really good quality
Spanish. No hint of them being Chinese. Actually, I thought the
customization would be done locally.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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