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+* Re: Ping Char Jackson Plex LibraryAuric__
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 by: jetjock - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:10 UTC

Char,

This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: Auric__ - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:35 UTC

jetjock wrote:

> This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
> contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
> that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!

IIRC Char is female... but "Charlotte/Charlene/Char* Jackson" can't be
anything remotely resembling unique. Also, there's no guarantee her real name
even remotely resembles "Char Jackson". Just sayin'.

--
Life belongs to those who do not fear to lose it.

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 by: jetjock - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 02:12 UTC

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:35:27 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
<not.my.real@email.address> wrote:

>jetjock wrote:
>
>> This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
>> contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
>> that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!
>
>IIRC Char is female... but "Charlotte/Charlene/Char* Jackson" can't be
>anything remotely resembling unique. Also, there's no guarantee her real name
>even remotely resembles "Char Jackson". Just sayin'.

All true!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: Char Jackson - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 06:51 UTC

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>Char,
>
> This conversation is kind of off-topic here.

It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?

>Is there a way to
>contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
>that you?

I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.

>Libraries are giving me fits!!

Did you follow the steps here?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/

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 by: jetjock - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:36 UTC

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:51:49 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
>>Char,
>>
>> This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>
>It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
>getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
>
>>Is there a way to
>>contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
>>that you?
>
>I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
>
>>Libraries are giving me fits!!
>
>Did you follow the steps here?
>https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/

Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
afterwards.

1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
every photo on the drive?

2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
the files from the "File System". And that option doesn't even work.
I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!

Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 17:30 UTC

Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
> >Char,
> >
> > This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>
> It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
> getting ready to.

As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.

But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.

So carry on.

[...]

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 by: Char Jackson - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:42 UTC

On 20 Sep 2023 17:30:36 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Char,
>> >
>> > This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>>
>> It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
>> getting ready to.
>
> As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.
>
> But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
>because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
>Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.
>
> So carry on.
>
>[...]

OK, looks like we have at least one lurker, so let's go. :)

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 by: Char Jackson - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 19:07 UTC

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:36:02 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:51:49 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Char,
>>>
>>> This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>>
>>It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
>>getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
>>
>>>Is there a way to
>>>contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
>>>that you?
>>
>>I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
>>
>>>Libraries are giving me fits!!
>>
>>Did you follow the steps here?
>>https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
>
>Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
>afterwards.
>
>1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
>every photo on the drive?

Don't give Plex access to the entire drive. Really, it's as simple as that.

Whether it's photos, movies, TV programs, misc videos, music, etc., the first
step is to create a new (and thus empty) folder on your hard drive. When you
create your new library, point it at the corresponding new folder. I have
separate folders as follows, with each of them linked to its own Plex library:

_Plex Movies
_Plex TV
_Plex Video
_Plex Music

I currently don't have a folder for photos, but you get the idea. I use the
leading underscore to force these folders to float to the top of the File
Explorer display, and I include the word Plex in each folder name to make it
obvious what they belong to.

With the folders created and the Plex libraries each pointed to its respective
folder, the next thing to do is to drop some files into the correct folder.
Before you get in too deep, decide if the files in those folders will be *moved*
there or *copied* there. For me, the three video folders get their files moved
there, so that I can (optionally) delete them after I've seen them. I don't want
to delete any music after I've heard it, so I maintain a music hierarchy outside
of the Plex library and I drop a copy of just some of my music into the Plex
music folder. I may get rid of the whole Plex music library, though, since I
very rarely seem to use it.

>2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
>individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
>the files from the "File System".

That's correct. If you use the Plex interface to delete something, it will be
deleted from the file system and placed into the Recycle Bin. If you just want
to remove something from a Plex library, without deleting it from the file
system, then you'd use File Explorer or similar tool to do so. The next time
Plex runs its sync script, it'll see that one or more files have been removed
and it will clean up its user interface. That scan runs automatically, about
once per hour, but you can run it manually at any time.

>And that option doesn't even work.
>I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!

I'd need more details before I could offer any useful advice. Deleting items via
the Plex user interface works fine here.

>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.

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 by: jetjock - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 14:49 UTC

On 20 Sep 2023 17:30:36 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Char,
>> >
>> > This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>>
>> It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
>> getting ready to.
>
> As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.
>
> But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
>because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
>Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.
>
> So carry on.
>
>[...]

Thanks for your blessing! Means a lot coming from a regular here. :-)

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: jetjock - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:17 UTC

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:07:54 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:36:02 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:51:49 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:10:45 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Char,
>>>>
>>>> This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
>>>
>>>It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
>>>getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
>>>
>>>>Is there a way to
>>>>contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
>>>>that you?
>>>
>>>I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
>>>
>>>>Libraries are giving me fits!!
>>>
>>>Did you follow the steps here?
>>>https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
>>
>>Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
>>afterwards.
>>
>>1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
>>every photo on the drive?
>
>Don't give Plex access to the entire drive. Really, it's as simple as that.
>
>Whether it's photos, movies, TV programs, misc videos, music, etc., the first
>step is to create a new (and thus empty) folder on your hard drive. When you
>create your new library, point it at the corresponding new folder. I have
>separate folders as follows, with each of them linked to its own Plex library:
>
>_Plex Movies
>_Plex TV
>_Plex Video
>_Plex Music
>
>I currently don't have a folder for photos, but you get the idea. I use the
>leading underscore to force these folders to float to the top of the File
>Explorer display, and I include the word Plex in each folder name to make it
>obvious what they belong to.

I built my folders the same way. They do show at the top in my file
manager, but Plex puts them at the bottom! :-)
>
>With the folders created and the Plex libraries each pointed to its respective
>folder, the next thing to do is to drop some files into the correct folder.
>Before you get in too deep, decide if the files in those folders will be *moved*
>there or *copied* there. For me, the three video folders get their files moved
>there, so that I can (optionally) delete them after I've seen them. I don't want
>to delete any music after I've heard it, so I maintain a music hierarchy outside
>of the Plex library and I drop a copy of just some of my music into the Plex
>music folder. I may get rid of the whole Plex music library, though, since I
>very rarely seem to use it.
>
>>2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
>>individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
>>the files from the "File System".
>
>That's correct. If you use the Plex interface to delete something, it will be
>deleted from the file system and placed into the Recycle Bin. If you just want
>to remove something from a Plex library, without deleting it from the file
>system, then you'd use File Explorer or similar tool to do so. The next time
>Plex runs its sync script, it'll see that one or more files have been removed
>and it will clean up its user interface. That scan runs automatically, about
>once per hour, but you can run it manually at any time.

Thanks. At least now I know how to remove something from the library.
>
>>And that option doesn't even work.
>>I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!
>
>I'd need more details before I could offer any useful advice. Deleting items via
>the Plex user interface works fine here.

Just deleted the whole library and started over. Not a problem
anymore! :-)

You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
>
>>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.

Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:23 UTC

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:17:06 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
>showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
>(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
>to ask though, right?

I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
that it wouldn't be in there.

>>>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>>>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
>
>Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
>again!

You're welcome. Enjoy!

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 by: jetjock - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 20:12 UTC

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:23:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:17:06 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
>>You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
>>showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
>>(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
>>to ask though, right?
>
>I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
>instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
>possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
>that it wouldn't be in there.

I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
questions than answered ones.
>
>>>>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>>>>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
>>
>>Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
>>again!

I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>
>You're welcome. Enjoy!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
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>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or

I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.

>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.

I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
>>
>>You're welcome. Enjoy!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:10 UTC

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:12:54 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:23:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:17:06 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
>>>showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
>>>(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
>>>to ask though, right?
>>
>>I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
>>instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
>>possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
>>that it wouldn't be in there.
>
>I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
>provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
>a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
>questions than answered ones.

Good to know, thanks. I haven't needed support for what I do with it. I'm mostly
dealing with movies and TV series, where I convert everything to mkv, if it's
not already in that format.

>>>>>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>>>>>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
>>>
>>>Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
>>>again!
>
>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.

If those WiFi speeds are from/to the Internet, they're irrelevant for what
you're doing. You need to know what kind of speed you're getting between the
Plex server and the Fire Stick. Maybe you can temporarily move the two closer
together, as a test? Is the Fire Stick able to stream anything else? You need to
determine whether it's a WiFi issue, a Fire Stick issue, or something else.

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 by: jetjock - Fri, 22 Sep 2023 14:33 UTC

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 18:10:13 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:12:54 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:23:22 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:17:06 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
>>>>showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
>>>>(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
>>>>to ask though, right?
>>>
>>>I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
>>>instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
>>>possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
>>>that it wouldn't be in there.
>>
>>I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
>>provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
>>a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
>>questions than answered ones.
>
>Good to know, thanks. I haven't needed support for what I do with it. I'm mostly
>dealing with movies and TV series, where I convert everything to mkv, if it's
>not already in that format.
>
>>>>>>Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
>>>>>>if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
>>>>
>>>>Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
>>>>again!
>>
>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>
>If those WiFi speeds are from/to the Internet, they're irrelevant for what
>you're doing. You need to know what kind of speed you're getting between the
>Plex server and the Fire Stick. Maybe you can temporarily move the two closer
>together, as a test?

Not practical in my case.

> Is the Fire Stick able to stream anything else? You need to
>determine whether it's a WiFi issue, a Fire Stick issue, or something else.

Fire Stick can stream other programs, but not without some buffering.
Pretty sure it's our WiFi being very unstable. Will try another WiFi
analyzer and see if it works better than the one I have.

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: jetjock - Fri, 22 Sep 2023 14:38 UTC

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <q48pgi5807qjlviv00u18ev3hbrjuae0qo@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
>2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>[]
>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>
>I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
>things with them, such as upload to Twitter.

Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
>
>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>
>I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
>you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
>meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
>your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.

By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(

>>>
>>>You're welcome. Enjoy!
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: Char Jackson - Fri, 22 Sep 2023 16:22 UTC

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 09:38:13 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <q48pgi5807qjlviv00u18ev3hbrjuae0qo@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
>>2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>>[]
>>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>>
>>I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
>>things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
>
>Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
>likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
>are converted to mp4.
>>
>>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>>
>>I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
>>you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
>>meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
>>your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
>
>By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
>does.

To put a little more detail into that, when you try to stream from the Plex
server to the Fire Stick, there are two WiFi streams involved. The first is
between the Plex server and the WiFi access point, and the second is between the
Fire Stick and the access point. If either one of them is weak, you'll have
problems. If both are weak, you may not be able to make it work satisfactorily
at all. Both of those connections will very likely be using the same WiFi
channel, so you'd also be dealing with that kind of contention and interference,
not to mention the shared aspect of community WiFi and the uncertainties of what
your neighbors are doing at any moment on the same WiFi channel.

I'd want to eliminate all of that uncertainty by bringing the network into your
living space. Create a LAN where you live, so that the things you want to do are
only on your LAN, and give the LAN an Internet connection. That's what I would
most likely do, but I'm not prepared to walk you through all of the details and
any ongoing support, so you'll want to keep things simple.

>I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
>buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
>having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
>WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
>up-down speed was what it was referencing.

No, it's talking about the two WiFi links that make up the connection from Plex
to Fire Stick.

>But, since I've never had
>to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
>community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
>computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(

What equipment is available to you, if anything? What is inside your house,
apartment, condo, whatever? You said the router isn't there, but perhaps you
have an access point? Better yet, maybe you have an access point with an
available Ethernet port?

Switching gears, this is a bit drastic, but I'd check to see if a computer could
be placed near(er) to the TV, then use a wired Ethernet connection* or an ad hoc
WiFi connection. WiFi, in that case, wouldn't have to travel all the way back to
the community access point and make a round trip back to your Fire Stick.
Instead, it would only travel between the computer and the Fire Stick. The
downside would be that the Fire Stick would lose its Internet connection. There
are ways around that, but by then things get more complex and money could be
involved.

*If a wired Ethernet connection is a possibility, it would likely require
replacing the Fire Stick with a Roku. You may not want to entertain that
expense.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 22 Sep 2023 19:16 UTC

In message <ki9rgit8e9dm4f8u22758ri94ljglfm24m@4ax.com> at Fri, 22 Sep
2023 09:38:13, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <q48pgi5807qjlviv00u18ev3hbrjuae0qo@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
>>2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>>[]
>>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>>
>>I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
>>things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
>
>Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
>likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
>are converted to mp4.

One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
and what's inside can be lots of different flavours. What cameras
produce "live", due to limited processor power and lack of ability to
look ahead far, isn't necessarily what TV shows are (with plenty of
opportunity to process).
>>
>>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>>
>>I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
>>you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
>>meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
>>your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
>
>By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
>does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
>buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
>having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
>WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
>up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had

Others have answered that - it's not the speed of the signal from the
box to the internet, but assorted (and probably shared) links within the
community).

>to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
>community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
>computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(

Probably wouldn't help, but trying one of the common addresses -
192.168.x.y, where x.y can be 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 254.?, or various
other possibilities - or, 10.0.0.2 - might get you to the web interface
of the "router". (Which, if it's anything like a UK one, will give you
some top level information; to get further in, you'll need the password
which here would be on a slide-out panel in the "router", along with the
name and password of the wifi.)
>
>>>>
>>>>You're welcome. Enjoy!
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>
> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Q. How much is 2 + 2?
A. Thank you so much for asking your question.
Are you still having this problem? I'll be delighted to help you. Please
restate the problem twice and include your Windows version along with
all error logs.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-1

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 by: Paul - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 01:28 UTC

On 9/22/2023 3:16 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
> and what's inside can be lots of different flavours.

There are "containers" and "CODECs".

A given "container" cannot use all CODEC types.
If you use certain editing applications, this
will annoy you, when you go to save, and the tool
slaps your fingers and tells you that CODEC can't
be used in this container choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska ,mkv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave .avi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP4_file_format .mp4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats

If you ask FFMPEG for "what things it supports" on the command line,
that can serve as an encyclopedia of multimedia info for you. That, and
the web site they provide.

You can, as the builder of FFMPEG, switch off support for some things.
This is why, when you operate FFMPEG, it "dumps a paragraph of stuff"
to the terminal. That paragraph includes the words for all the
things it has compiled in. In Linux, NVDEC and NVENC are missing,
because they are non-free hardware features, and the violate the
esthetic of the Linusians. If you want those to be included in
your Linux version of FFMPEG, you have to build it yourself (which I did!).
The Linux version of NVENC is a tiny bit faster than the Windows
version of it :-)

Paul

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:13 UTC

In message <uelf0n$ge8o$1@dont-email.me> at Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:28:54,
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>On 9/22/2023 3:16 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
>> and what's inside can be lots of different flavours.
>
>There are "containers" and "CODECs".
>
>A given "container" cannot use all CODEC types.

But it can contain several, sometimes quite varied.

>If you use certain editing applications, this
>will annoy you, when you go to save, and the tool
>slaps your fingers and tells you that CODEC can't
>be used in this container choice.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska ,mkv
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave .avi
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP4_file_format .mp4
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats

Thanks for the links. Noted (though quite possibly will never look!).
>
>If you ask FFMPEG for "what things it supports" on the command line,
>that can serve as an encyclopedia of multimedia info for you. That, and
>the web site they provide.

I think the days I will use ffmpeg from the command line are long behind
me, unless I get _very_ frustrated! I do use it a lot, but unknowingly -
there are copies of it on my machine in folders associated with:
Shotcut, SuperSimple Video Converter, pazera audio extractor, Winamp,
yt-dlp, Skype, and EdgeWebView.
>
>You can, as the builder of FFMPEG, switch off support for some things.
>This is why, when you operate FFMPEG, it "dumps a paragraph of stuff"
>to the terminal. That paragraph includes the words for all the
>things it has compiled in. In Linux, NVDEC and NVENC are missing,
>because they are non-free hardware features, and the violate the
>esthetic of the Linusians. If you want those to be included in
>your Linux version of FFMPEG, you have to build it yourself (which I did!).
>The Linux version of NVENC is a tiny bit faster than the Windows
>version of it :-)
>
> Paul

I haven't compiled/built anything for many years!

Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think I'm
right in that the formats (including whatever container they choose)
created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones available,
because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the camera
(processor and memory for look-ahead).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"There is no such thing as bad weather - only the wrong clothes." - Billy
Connolly, in his World Tour of England, Ireland and Wales, 4 March 2002 (BBC1).

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 by: Paul - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:26 UTC

On 9/23/2023 8:13 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think I'm right in that the formats (including whatever container they choose) created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones available, because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the camera (processor and memory for look-ahead).

Cameras can make rather nice things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class

"Formats

Uncompressed YUV formats YUY2, NV12
DV formats SD-DV, SDL-DV, and HD-DV (525-60, 625-50, 1125–60, 1250-50)
Frame-based
Video stream formats like
MPEG-2 TS
H.264
MPEG-4 SL
SMPTE VC1
VP8
MJPEG
"

There was a time, when power and area considerations
made ideas like that impossible. But they can do it now.

The thing is, frameserve subsystem in W10/W11, their design
choice was to use the uncompressed formats, and this is
actually driving the design of webcams, backwards. If a developer
had considered eliminating the uncompressed formats, they can't
now, because they have to support at least one format that
works with "frameserve". In this blog entry, there is a diagram
at the bottom, showing one case of how they got around that limitation.

https://alax.info/blog/1686

One of the objectives of producing a compressed format,
is so the output can be "used directly for some purpose".

Same as digital TV tuners produce a "useful output", at 2MB/sec.
It's ready to be recorded right onto a disk drive, no number
crunching required. It came across the airwaves, ready to use.
It's a bitstream, with FEC (forward error correction).

Paul

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 by: jetjock - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 18:11 UTC

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:16:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <ki9rgit8e9dm4f8u22758ri94ljglfm24m@4ax.com> at Fri, 22 Sep
>2023 09:38:13, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <q48pgi5807qjlviv00u18ev3hbrjuae0qo@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
>>>2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>>>[]
>>>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>>>
>>>I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
>>>things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
>>
>>Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
>>likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
>>are converted to mp4.
>
>One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
>and what's inside can be lots of different flavours. What cameras
>produce "live", due to limited processor power and lack of ability to
>look ahead far, isn't necessarily what TV shows are (with plenty of
>opportunity to process).
>>>
>>>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
>>>you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
>>>meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
>>>your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
>>
>>By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
>>does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
>>buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
>>having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
>>WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
>>up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had
>
>Others have answered that - it's not the speed of the signal from the
>box to the internet, but assorted (and probably shared) links within the
>community).
>
>>to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
>>community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
>>computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
>
>Probably wouldn't help, but trying one of the common addresses -
>192.168.x.y, where x.y can be 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 254.?, or various
>other possibilities - or, 10.0.0.2 - might get you to the web interface
>of the "router". (Which, if it's anything like a UK one, will give you
>some top level information; to get further in, you'll need the password
>which here would be on a slide-out panel in the "router", along with the
>name and password of the wifi.)

I've tried all of those, plus several more with no luck. Tried
ipconfig /all and got this:

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : TAP-Windows Adapter V9
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-89-15-F2-A5
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : attlocal.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection
(2) I218-V
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{8915F2A5-B28C-4887-8AE7-CA3062ADBD5D}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{8FC5C10D-FA8D-4C4D-AB4A-E5C4629FFF7F}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{6C49B77A-3650-45E9-A564-6F02A5DE3898}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C80BE3CC-5DF6-4AFA-BB0E-40188A548357}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.attlocal.net:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{303C90CE-E7DB-4196-8A1C-8544547025D1}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #6
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Maybe all that will mean more to someone here that it does to me. All
it means to me is that I can't find an IP address to access the router
to move it to the best channel.

When I did a WiFi scan it showed me on channel one today with a spike
of -40db. Yesterday, it was another channel. The phone app I used is
very flaky lately and nothing but one ad after another, so don't put
too much stock in what it says! Will see if I can't find a better one,
but since I can't change the channel, probably won't help much! :-(

C:\Users\Mike>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You're welcome. Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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 by: jetjock - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 18:28 UTC

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:22:29 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 09:38:13 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <q48pgi5807qjlviv00u18ev3hbrjuae0qo@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
>>>2023 15:12:54, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> writes
>>>[]
>>>>I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
>>>
>>>I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
>>>things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
>>
>>Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
>>likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
>>are converted to mp4.
>>>
>>>>rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
>>>>spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
>>>>supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
>>>>reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
>>>you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
>>>meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
>>>your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
>>
>>By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
>>does.
>
>To put a little more detail into that, when you try to stream from the Plex
>server to the Fire Stick, there are two WiFi streams involved. The first is
>between the Plex server and the WiFi access point, and the second is between the
>Fire Stick and the access point. If either one of them is weak, you'll have
>problems. If both are weak, you may not be able to make it work satisfactorily
>at all. Both of those connections will very likely be using the same WiFi
>channel, so you'd also be dealing with that kind of contention and interference,
>not to mention the shared aspect of community WiFi and the uncertainties of what
>your neighbors are doing at any moment on the same WiFi channel.
>
>I'd want to eliminate all of that uncertainty by bringing the network into your
>living space. Create a LAN where you live, so that the things you want to do are
>only on your LAN, and give the LAN an Internet connection. That's what I would
>most likely do, but I'm not prepared to walk you through all of the details and
>any ongoing support, so you'll want to keep things simple.

I do have a LAN with a strong (apparently-full 5 bars in start tray)
signal. Understand that you are not in the IT business! :-) You've
already given me a whole lot of help.

I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
system as I understand it.

Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point
which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)
>
>>I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
>>buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
>>having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
>>WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
>>up-down speed was what it was referencing.
>
>No, it's talking about the two WiFi links that make up the connection from Plex
>to Fire Stick.
>
>>But, since I've never had
>>to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
>>community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
>>computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
>
>What equipment is available to you, if anything? What is inside your house,
>apartment, condo, whatever? You said the router isn't there, but perhaps you
>have an access point? Better yet, maybe you have an access point with an
>available Ethernet port?

See above.
>
>Switching gears, this is a bit drastic, but I'd check to see if a computer could
>be placed near(er) to the TV, then use a wired Ethernet connection* or an ad hoc
>WiFi connection. WiFi, in that case, wouldn't have to travel all the way back to
>the community access point and make a round trip back to your Fire Stick.
>Instead, it would only travel between the computer and the Fire Stick. The
>downside would be that the Fire Stick would lose its Internet connection. There
>are ways around that, but by then things get more complex and money could be
>involved.
>
>*If a wired Ethernet connection is a possibility, it would likely require
>replacing the Fire Stick with a Roku. You may not want to entertain that
>expense.

I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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In message <uen3kd$s38m$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:26:52,
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>On 9/23/2023 8:13 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think
>>I'm right in that the formats (including whatever container they
>>choose) created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones
>>available, because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the
>>camera (processor and memory for look-ahead).
>
>Cameras can make rather nice things.

But probably not all can make all the standard allows, especially older
cameras. The camera I'm currently using has a driver CD that says it's
for 98...XP, though I don't use the driver disc, I just take the SD card
out of it and put it in the laptop. (Easier than looking round for a
suitable cable - and I'd worry about wearing out the socket in the
camera anyway - IME they're not great.)
[]
>There was a time, when power and area considerations
>made ideas like that impossible. But they can do it now.
>
>The thing is, frameserve subsystem in W10/W11, their design

Reading this in the '7 'group (-:
[]
>Same as digital TV tuners produce a "useful output", at 2MB/sec.
>It's ready to be recorded right onto a disk drive, no number
>crunching required. It came across the airwaves, ready to use.
>It's a bitstream, with FEC (forward error correction).

All the (few) TV prog.s I've recorded in the last year or so I've
yt-dlp'd from the "available for X days/weeks/whatever after broadcast"
page on the broadcaster's website (mostly BBC). Oh, now you mention it,
my TV box does have a USB socket on it - and I think I did use that
once. That produced .ts files (which my VLC plays).
>
> Paul
--
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they
don't want to hear. - Preface to "Animal Farm"

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 by: Char Jackson - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:31 UTC

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 13:28:28 -0500, jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:

>I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
>WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
>able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
>system as I understand it.
>
>Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
>There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
>apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
>common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
>password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point

Possibly one of the models on this page:
https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/products/wireless-access-points/

>which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
>have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
>can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
>tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
>can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
>they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)

No, but it's a nice thought. :)

When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a connected
PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't connected to a network
at that time, so no useful info was obtained.) In the ipconfig output, you
should see your own IP address, plus the IP address of the DHCP server and the
Default Gateway. (Plus DNS address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)

All 3 of those addresses will be on the same subnet, with the latter two most
likely being the same address. They don't have to be the same, but they usually
are. The gateway address should be the router that serves your cottage, and
possibly other cottages. The ceiling-mounted access point very likely has an IP
address that's also in that same subnet. Obviously, you don't need to know it in
order to use the access point (because you use an access point at layer 2 of the
OSI model and IP addresses live above that at layer 3, but who cares, right?)

Because I'm weird that way, when I'm connected to that WiFi system I'd run a
utility called an IP scanner. When it finishes, it provides a list of every IP
address that it found on your subnet, plus some basic info about each of those
IP addresses. The access point will probably show up in that list, as will the
router.

I haven't said anything about the modem because, technically, the modem is not
on your LAN. It's almost certainly on the WAN side of the router that serves
your cottage, even if it's in the same plastic case as the router. You still
might be able to access it, though, just for the sake of info. If it was a
standard cable modem, it would likely be at http://168.192.100.1 but I'm
guessing it's not a standard cable modem. If you can get the make/model, you
might find a default address for it. It won't be an address that's on your LAN
subnet, since it's on the far side of the router.

>I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
>for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
>and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
>address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
>time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.

I've never optimized anything. Maybe I should, but everything plays just fine.

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