Hi,

I’ve got a… problem? feature request? anyway, an issue with a
sendmail 8.14.9 installation that runs in “queue only + queue
runner” mode:

# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L sm-mta -bd -odq -q12m

When I send two mails and then trigger a queue run manually
(sudo sendmail -v -q) or the -q12m hits the second mail is
ALWAYS delivered before the first.

I need this to be changed so the oldest mails are tried first.

So far, so good. I found QueueSortOrder and when I use…

$ sudo mailq -O QueueSortOrder=time

… I get the correct order, but…

$ sudo sendmail -O QueueSortOrder=time -v -q

… still sends them in the reverse order. Same for =modification.

Is this possible at all? A bug in the old version, since fixed?
Any advice?

Thanks in advance,
//mirabilos (from IRC)
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Thorsten Glaser wrote:

> When I send two mails and then trigger a queue run manually
> (sudo sendmail -v -q) or the -q12m hits the second mail is
> ALWAYS delivered before the first.

What's the time difference between sending those two mails?
If it's not at least 1s then you basically get random ordering

Check the timestamps in the queue:
grep '^T' /var/spool/mq*/qf*
(use the right queue path for your setup)

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Claus Aßmann dixit:

>What's the time difference between sending those two mails?
>If it's not at least 1s then you basically get random ordering

Oh. It seems I had two issues: no QueueSortOrder in the normal
case (where several seconds to minutes were between the mails)
and sending them to fast when manually trying whether adding
QueueSortOrder fixes things. Now…

$ sudo sendmail -O QueueSortOrder=time -v -q

… sends the mails in the submission order, when I send them
with some delay.

Thanks!

Now to figure out how to put that into the .mc instead of
just hacking up the .cf…

bye,
//mirabilos
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Thorsten Glaser wrote:

> $ sudo sendmail -O QueueSortOrder=time -v -q

> Now to figure out how to put that into the .mc instead of
> just hacking up the .cf

See cf/README

confQUEUE_SORT_ORDER QueueSortOrder [Priority] Queue sort algorithm:
Priority, Host, Filename, Random,
Modification, or Time.

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