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 by: olcott - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:59 UTC

On 7/27/2021 12:34 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> .. due to the infinite recursion missed by Strachey blowing the stack of
> any turing machine simulator with finite memory (stack) size. One
> simply needs to detect out of memory when more than one instance of the
> decider is present in the call stack.
>

This seems correct. I accomplished the same thing differently in my
current paper.

To the best of my knowledge I am the first to derive the key insight
that the conventional HP counter-examples specify infinite recursion to
any simulating halt decider.

It looks like the original specification provided in
the Linz text may be infinitely recursive in that each
TM requires its own input. ...(Olcott:2016)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307509556_Self_Modifying_Turing_Machine_SMTM_Solution_to_the_Halting_Problem_concrete_example

> This is a troll.
>
> Message ends.
>
> /Flibble
>

This is my current paper:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation

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