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From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
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by: Ed Cryer - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:32 UTC

I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot
automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can
re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
but ...

Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?

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by: Andy Burns - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:36 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?

bcdedit /bootsequence ?

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by: Big Al - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 12:51 UTC

On 7/25/23 07:32, this is what Ed Cryer wrote:
> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the
> list. I can re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
> but ...
>
> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>
> Ed
Install Linux and use the grub menu. You get a list to chose from but no action means it boots the last use OS. My
windows can boot 3 times and I don't care.
--
Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

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by: Ed Cryer - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 17:01 UTC

Andy Burns wrote:
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>
> bcdedit /bootsequence ?
>
>

Thanks for your interest.
I ran that command and got this message;

C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /bootsequence
The entry list data is not valid as specified.
Run "bcdedit /?" for command line assistance.
The operation completed successfully.

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by: Andy Burns - Tue, 25 Jul 2023 18:09 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> Thanks for your interest.
> I ran that command and got this message;
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /bootsequence
> The entry list data is not valid as specified.
> Run "bcdedit /?" for command line assistance.
> The operation completed successfully.

You need to find the GUID of your relevant bootable partition

with bcdedit /enum

then provide it with bcdedit /bootsequence {GUID}

that should take effect for the next boot only ...

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by: wasbit - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 09:27 UTC

On 25/07/2023 12:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot
> automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can
> re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
> but ...
>
> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>

I have the same problem being able to boot into Windows 8.1, 10 or 11 so use
EasyBCD - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
Free for personal use.

--
Regards
wasbit

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by: Ed Cryer - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:04 UTC

wasbit wrote:
> On 25/07/2023 12:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
>> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot
>> automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can
>> re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
>> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
>> but ...
>>
>> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>>
>
> I have the same problem being able to boot into Windows 8.1, 10 or 11 so
> use
> EasyBCD - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
> Free for personal use.
>

That's a cute little piece of software. I'm trying to think of a word
opposite to "bloatware", but can't get better than "small, efficient and
unobtrusive".
It takes only 10 seconds to go through the whole process; load, change
default, exit.

You have to remember to change it back afterwards, unless there's a
one-off usage switch that I've missed.

Thanks,

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by: Andy Burns - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:10 UTC

Ed Cryer wrote:

> You have to remember to change it back afterwards, unless there's a
> one-off usage switch that I've missed.

You get that with the method I suggested ...

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by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:18 UTC

On 2023-07-25 13:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot
> automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can
> re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
> but ...
>
> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?

Is there a program in Windows to edit the EFI boot sequence?

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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by: Paul - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:53 UTC

On 7/26/2023 7:18 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2023-07-25 13:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
>> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
>> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
>> but ...
>>
>> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>
> Is there a program in Windows to edit the EFI boot sequence?
>

You mean an efibootmgr port for Windows ?

The problem there, is figuring out what the hell you're editing,
and whether the result is actually what you wanted.

Playing with EasyBCD is "much more comforting" for a Windows user :-)

The OPs "orbit" described in the post, smells of EasyBCD.

If a wider orbit is involved, that's when you might go looking for a port.

I would need to see a worked example of a multiboot (mixed Win/Linux)
before I could be convinced to test it. My BIOS for example, has
a "horrible row of icons", meant to resemble efibootmgr, and
I just avert my eyes when I see that :-) Such a mess. There might
be an icon there, to boot from an SD card... when I don't even have
an SD card reader slot.

Paul

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by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:46 UTC

On 2023-07-26 14:53, Paul wrote:
> On 7/26/2023 7:18 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-07-25 13:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> I have Win10, Win10 Pro, Win7, Macrium, all on the boot list.
>>> This creates a slight problem with M$ updates, which reboot automatically. The reboot always goes to Win10, top of the list. I can re-order the list, but the top entry is the reboot default.
>>> I can sit by the machine and manually choose from the POST list
>>> but ...
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a way to set temporarily the reboot OS internally?
>>
>> Is there a program in Windows to edit the EFI boot sequence?
>>
>
> You mean an efibootmgr port for Windows ?

Yes.

> The problem there, is figuring out what the hell you're editing,
> and whether the result is actually what you wanted.
>
> Playing with EasyBCD is "much more comforting" for a Windows user :-)

Yes, but I understand that you can only play with the partition
contents, not the EFI boot menu entries.

It is my understanding the W10/11 includes software, maybe produced by
the manufacturer, to change UEFI settings from inside Windows.

> The OPs "orbit" described in the post, smells of EasyBCD.
>
> If a wider orbit is involved, that's when you might go looking for a port.
>
> I would need to see a worked example of a multiboot (mixed Win/Linux)
> before I could be convinced to test it. My BIOS for example, has
> a "horrible row of icons", meant to resemble efibootmgr, and
> I just avert my eyes when I see that :-) Such a mess. There might
> be an icon there, to boot from an SD card... when I don't even have
> an SD card reader slot.

Look a what a my Lenovo laptops says:

Laicolasse:~ # efibootmgr
BootCurrent: 0001
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0001,0000,0002,001A,001B,001C,001D,001E,001F,0020,0021,0022
Boot0000* opensuse_beta-secureboot
Boot0001* opensuse_main-secureboot
Boot0002* opensuse-secureboot
Boot0010 Setup
Boot0011 Boot Menu
Boot0012 Diagnostic Splash Screen
Boot0013 Lenovo Diagnostics
Boot0014 Asset Information
Boot0015 Regulatory Information
Boot0016 ThinkShield secure wipe
Boot0017 ThinkShield Passwordless Power-On Device Manager
Boot0018 Startup Interrupt Menu
Boot0019 Rescue and Recovery
Boot001A* USB CD
Boot001B* USB FDD
Boot001C* NVMe0
Boot001D* USB HDD
Boot001E* PXE BOOT
Boot001F* LENOVO CLOUD
Boot0020* ON-PREMISE
Boot0021 Other CD
Boot0022 Other HDD
Boot0023* Boot Next Boot Option
Laicolasse:~ #

That's a lot of cryptic boot options, from number 10 upwards. They
belong to the firmware, they are static. And there currently nothing on
USB, no CD, no other HD.

Look at another machine:

Isengard:~ # efibootmgr
BootCurrent: 0001
Timeout: 6 seconds
BootOrder: 0001,0004,0010,000F,0002,0003,0000,0005,0006,0007
Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager
Boot0001* main-os-secureboot
Boot0002* UEFI: IP4 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Boot0003* UEFI: IP6 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Boot0004* UEFI: KINGSTON SMS200S3120G, Partition 1
Boot0005* UEFI:CD/DVD Drive
Boot0006* UEFI:Removable Device
Boot0007* UEFI:Network Device
Boot000F* UEFI: JetFlashTranscend 8GB 1100, Partition 1
Boot0010* UEFI OS
Isengard:~ #

And that machine doesn't really have Windows.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Bones: "The man's DEAD, Jim!"

computers / alt.comp.os.windows-10 / Reboot with several OS's

Subject	Author
Reboot with several OS's	Ed Cryer
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Andy Burns
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Ed Cryer
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Andy Burns
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Big Al
Re: Reboot with several OS's	wasbit
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Ed Cryer
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Andy Burns
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Carlos E.R.
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Paul
Re: Reboot with several OS's	Carlos E.R.