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 by: rms - Thu, 12 May 2022 18:53 UTC

>Can I switch an Ashes of War from one weapon to another? What if I
>find a better weapon than my starting sword?

Try new weapons for sure. You'll get more and more smithing stones as
you get farther along to experiment with. roundtable blacksmith works with
ashesofwar.

>Or is this what AoW duplication is for? Not sure how to do that yet.

I think you need a 'Lost ashes' to do duplication. they are found
occasionally. Similar in concept to using the turtle mausoleums to
duplicate major boss Remembrances so you can get both boss weapons.

-pw

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 11:31:57 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:12:38 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> >
>> > I was going to ask if you've started using these weapon skills, as they
>> >can be extremely powerful alt-fire modes. I've been using 'sword of night
>> >and flame' lately, which has two separate alt-fire attacks, one a burst of
>> >flame the other a beam of magic. To use it, I hold down the left trigger
>> >L2, then press either R1 or R2 to unleash the special attacks. Different
>> >ashesofwar have slightly different activation keypresses, so experiment, and
>> >they can be inactive if you have a shield equipped in the other hand with
>> >its own skill. Also I frequently use two swords now instead of a sword &
>> >shield, as they attack at the same time, dealing 2x the damage. It is
>> >possible to switch out ashes of war from what a weapon may have already, you
>> >can do that at the blacksmith in roundtablehold.
>> *--
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can I switch an Ashes of War from one weapon to another? What if I
>> find a better weapon than my starting sword?
>
>Yes. Though there's some weapons that you can't change the weapon
>art on at all. Some of those can be pretty good.
>
>> Or is this what AoW duplication is for? Not sure how to do that yet.
>
>If you wanted the same weapon art on different weapons so you can
>switch between them for different situations, or you didn't have more
>than one of a particular type you wanted like blood and want to dual
>wield.
>
>- Justisaur

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Got it! I am just a little paranoid to try these things in the
interface and don't want to lose anything I worked so hard to get,
expecially since I am using the KB and mouse (don't ask me why, but
the interface isn't exactly intuitive).

Thanks, and away I go!

-pw

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:29:16 -0600, "rms"
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>> Finally beat the PITB Bloody
>>Finger Nerijus
>
> If you haven't talked to the Finger Hunter under the bridge to the south
>of the dragon near the beginning area, do so.
>
>rms
>
Man, I gotta kill a dragon athe Raya Lucaria Academy to get the
Glinstone Key to enter the academy?

or sneak by it?? I dunno about that.

I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face! No
matter if I went from the north (upstream) or started downstream by
the lake, and no matter how far back I backed up, at most it would
appear as a spec in the distance and I would get killed in a a few
seconds.

In fact, when I finally did kill it, Yura was nowhere to be found! I
did it all by myself!

Why I outta.....! :-)

Thanks,

-pw

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 by: rms - Thu, 12 May 2022 22:00 UTC

>I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
>whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face!

If spoken to beforehand he would've been there to help :) He has a
questline and keep an eye out for him. There are many dragon bosses in the
game, many of which you'll be able to summon ash help for. I mostly rode by
on my horse for a quick slash or two, then circled around and repeat.

rms

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 16:00:19 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
>>whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face!
>
> If spoken to beforehand he would've been there to help :) He has a
>questline and keep an eye out for him. There are many dragon bosses in the
>game, many of which you'll be able to summon ash help for. I mostly rode by
>on my horse for a quick slash or two, then circled around and repeat.
>
>rms

*--

I got the Glinstone key from behind the dragon. Entered the Academy.
Looks very tough. So I guess I will not fulfill the quest right now
and put it on hold when I have a bunch of time and when I don't have
many runes to lose for good :-)

But beating that dragon gives me a dragon heart and 14,000 runes.
Tempted!

Thanks!

-pw

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 16:00:19 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
>>whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face!
>
> If spoken to beforehand he would've been there to help :) He has a
>questline and keep an eye out for him. There are many dragon bosses in the
>game, many of which you'll be able to summon ash help for. I mostly rode by
>on my horse for a quick slash or two, then circled around and repeat.
>
>rms

*--

That is what I have been doing alot, but this dragon's fire breath
goes for about a mile! :-)

-pw

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 16:00:19 -0600, "rms"
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>>I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
>>whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face!
>
> If spoken to beforehand he would've been there to help :) He has a
>questline and keep an eye out for him. There are many dragon bosses in the
>game, many of which you'll be able to summon ash help for. I mostly rode by
>on my horse for a quick slash or two, then circled around and repeat.
>
>rms

*--

Well, I got it down to 1/3 health twice before running out of health
both times. Spirit wolves no help, flame sling no help. I have to be
about 15 feet away from the target before it hits it.

Hmmm... Not ready for dragons yet, not this one.

-pw

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 16:00:19 -0600, "rms"
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>>I ust spoke to Yura. Don't get me going on that POS! He was no help
>>whatsoever with my 15 or more tries to kill what's his face!
>
> If spoken to beforehand he would've been there to help :) He has a
>questline and keep an eye out for him. There are many dragon bosses in the
>game, many of which you'll be able to summon ash help for. I mostly rode by
>on my horse for a quick slash or two, then circled around and repeat.
>
>rms

So Yuri, by the seaside SOG, gave me a hard time about messing with
dragons and then said fight all the dragons I like. I think something
happened to me but I don't see anything new in my inventory.

What is going on there?

-pw

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 by: rms - Sat, 14 May 2022 20:48 UTC

>So Yuri, by the seaside SOG, gave me a hard time about messing with
>dragons and then said fight all the dragons I like. I think something
>happened to me but I don't see anything new in my inventory.

After you beat that dragon he'll congratulate you and give a prize :)
just look up 'side quests elden ring' to see his and other NPC quests and
where they'll show up next. BTW I don't think you actually *have* to kill
the dragon, the item you need is in his nest under the tree.

rms

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 by: rms - Sat, 14 May 2022 21:07 UTC

I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen

rms

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On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:48:01 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>So Yuri, by the seaside SOG, gave me a hard time about messing with
>>dragons and then said fight all the dragons I like. I think something
>>happened to me but I don't see anything new in my inventory.
>
> After you beat that dragon he'll congratulate you and give a prize :)
>just look up 'side quests elden ring' to see his and other NPC quests and
>where they'll show up next. BTW I don't think you actually *have* to kill
>the dragon, the item you need is in his nest under the tree.
>
>rms

*---

Okay! Thanks. You mean the dragon at Argheel Lake, right. I got it
down to 1/2 health twice but got burned to death. It flies a lot away
from it's nest so I will look when it is a ways away.

I have done better with a dragon at Liurna of the Lakes. I ain't ready
for prime time yet. But the crabs are wimps now!

Thanks!!

-pw

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On Sat, 14 May 2022 15:07:22 -0600, "rms"
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>I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
>an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
>died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
>dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
>got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
>it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
>bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
>
>rms

*--

All that is way over my head! You speaking Greek? :-)

-pw

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On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:07:25 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
> I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
> an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
> died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
> dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
> got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
> it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
> bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
>
> rms

You're ahead of me I think. I just beat Morgott. I've seen a lot of mentions
how hard she is.

- Justisaur

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On Sat, 14 May 2022 19:23:06 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:07:25 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
>> I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
>> an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
>> died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
>> dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
>> got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
>> it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
>> bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
>>
>> rms
>
>You're ahead of me I think. I just beat Morgott. I've seen a lot of mentions
>how hard she is.
>
>- Justisaur
>
>

*---

"We won't lie: Morgott the Omen King is quite possibly one of the
hardest fights in all of Elden Ring, and that's saying something."

Wow Justisaur!!

-pw

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 by: Justisaur - Mon, 16 May 2022 02:25 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:49:12 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2022 19:23:06 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:07:25 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
> >> I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
> >> an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
> >> died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
> >> dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
> >> got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
> >> it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
> >> bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
> >>
> >> rms
> >
> >You're ahead of me I think. I just beat Morgott. I've seen a lot of mentions
> >how hard she is.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> >
> >
> *---
>
> "We won't lie: Morgott the Omen King is quite possibly one of the
> hardest fights in all of Elden Ring, and that's saying something."

Really? Seemed easy, first try for him. I did use a spirit ash though (always
do that or summon real people.) Godfrey took me 2 right before. I have a
harder time with a lot of regular mobs. The 3 Lyendel knights on the way
up to Godfrey were a real pain, I died at least 3 times there the first time,
and I had to go through there several times as I couldn't find the way to Mt.
of Giants after, and died a lot there. The Mt. of Giants bosses have been
somewhat hard, each 2-4 deaths, and are hp sponges so it takes awhile.

I'd probably rate for the intended level Margit and that damn Putrid Tree
Spirit in War-Dead Catacombs as tied for worst boss for me so far. It probably
took me over 50 tries for each. That first Crucible Knight was a lot too, but
I just figured I needed to come back later and kept trying a few times every
so often until I finally got him.

The Twin Gargoyles was really bad on my Str & Faith characters though,
and even the Regal Ancestral Spirit insanely difficult on my Str character.
While they weren't pushovers on my Int, they only took 2-3 tries.

- Justisaur

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 by: PW - Mon, 16 May 2022 03:49 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 19:25:05 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:49:12 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 19:23:06 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
>> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:07:25 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
>> >> I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
>> >> an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
>> >> died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
>> >> dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
>> >> got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
>> >> it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
>> >> bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
>> >>
>> >> rms
>> >
>> >You're ahead of me I think. I just beat Morgott. I've seen a lot of mentions
>> >how hard she is.
>> >
>> >- Justisaur
>> >
>> >
>> *---
>>
>> "We won't lie: Morgott the Omen King is quite possibly one of the
>> hardest fights in all of Elden Ring, and that's saying something."
>
>Really? Seemed easy, first try for him. I did use a spirit ash though (always
>do that or summon real people.) Godfrey took me 2 right before. I have a
>harder time with a lot of regular mobs. The 3 Lyendel knights on the way
>up to Godfrey were a real pain, I died at least 3 times there the first time,
>and I had to go through there several times as I couldn't find the way to Mt.
>of Giants after, and died a lot there. The Mt. of Giants bosses have been
>somewhat hard, each 2-4 deaths, and are hp sponges so it takes awhile.
>
>I'd probably rate for the intended level Margit and that damn Putrid Tree
>Spirit in War-Dead Catacombs as tied for worst boss for me so far. It probably
>took me over 50 tries for each. That first Crucible Knight was a lot too, but
>I just figured I needed to come back later and kept trying a few times every
>so often until I finally got him.
>
>The Twin Gargoyles was really bad on my Str & Faith characters though,
>and even the Regal Ancestral Spirit insanely difficult on my Str character.
>While they weren't pushovers on my Int, they only took 2-3 tries.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

I have decided to pass on Margit and Stormveil Castle. From what I
have read, there is no reason for me to deal with either.

Nothing much in reward. Maybe I would learn something though.

-pw

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 by: PW - Mon, 16 May 2022 03:51 UTC

On Sat, 14 May 2022 14:48:01 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>So Yuri, by the seaside SOG, gave me a hard time about messing with
>>dragons and then said fight all the dragons I like. I think something
>>happened to me but I don't see anything new in my inventory.
>
> After you beat that dragon he'll congratulate you and give a prize :)
>just look up 'side quests elden ring' to see his and other NPC quests and
>where they'll show up next. BTW I don't think you actually *have* to kill
>the dragon, the item you need is in his nest under the tree.
>
>rms

*--

I saw nothing under the tree in the nest. I didn't beat it, but I did
get it far enough away for a while to search around. I only found a
dragon fly whatever.

-pw

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:49:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:

> I have decided to pass on Margit and Stormveil Castle. From what I
> have read, there is no reason for me to deal with either.
>
> Nothing much in reward. Maybe I would learn something though.

Godslayer spellbook comes from there behind a stone key Imp. It has
the black flame which is similar to the fire sling, except it can also
stun enemies. The iron whetblade also behind another stone key imp
which is very useful as it lets you choose which physical stat a weapon
scales off of when you apply an art of war. There's also two golden
seeds which go toward more flasks, and a number of NPC quests
that start there.

I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
Jellyfish works pretty well for him.

- Justisaur

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 by: rms - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:33 UTC

>I saw nothing under the tree in the nest. I didn't beat it, but I did
>get it far enough away for a while to search around. I only found a
>dragon fly whatever.

Oh I'm confusing my dragons! Agheel is an optional boss. If you want to
explore the Lucaria Academy you'll need a key that *another* dragon has, in
a different lake west of the Academy complex. This is all much farther
north.

In my own game, I've beaten a late game optional boss 'Mogh', explored a bit
more of Mountain Top of the Giants, finished a character 'Varre' 's
questline. I hope I'm nearing the end :)

rms

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 by: rms - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:42 UTC

>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.

Yeah don't skip Margit. You can summon both an npc & ashes, and take a
hit occasionally and then run away. BTW did you encounter Patches yet in
Murkwater cave? He sells an item that is very useful in the Margit
fight.... (There's a similar one for the Mogh Lord of Blood fight)

rms

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 by: PW - Mon, 16 May 2022 17:16 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:49:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>
>> I have decided to pass on Margit and Stormveil Castle. From what I
>> have read, there is no reason for me to deal with either.
>>
>> Nothing much in reward. Maybe I would learn something though.
>
>Godslayer spellbook comes from there behind a stone key Imp. It has
>the black flame which is similar to the fire sling, except it can also
>stun enemies. The iron whetblade also behind another stone key imp
>which is very useful as it lets you choose which physical stat a weapon
>scales off of when you apply an art of war. There's also two golden
>seeds which go toward more flasks, and a number of NPC quests
>that start there.
>
>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Well I have read about the Black Flame.

I can only die trying, right? I will make sure that I don't have may
runes to lose.

I do have Margit's Shackle now. And maybe I read that there is a back
door to the castle without going through Margit.

-pw

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On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:42:19 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
>
> Yeah don't skip Margit. You can summon both an npc & ashes, and take a
>hit occasionally and then run away. BTW did you encounter Patches yet in
>Murkwater cave? He sells an item that is very useful in the Margit
>fight.... (There's a similar one for the Mogh Lord of Blood fight)
>
>rms

*---

I gots the shackle!! I did not kill Patches. I did some research
first!

I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!

-pw

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 by: rms - Mon, 16 May 2022 20:48 UTC

>And maybe I read that there is a back
>door to the castle without going through Margit.

There is a backdoor, but it doesn't access the main castle areas, afaik,
but does have an important item for someone you'll meet at the nearby grace
site. BTW that margit shackle is incredibly useful to find hidden doors and
to trigger certain fire traps in catacombs -- so useful that I keep it in
the quickaccess selection and use it every time I enter ruins or caves,
catacombs, buildings, to avoid missing something.

rms

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 by: Justisaur - Tue, 17 May 2022 14:19 UTC

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:18:49 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:42:19 -0600, "rms"
> <rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>
> >>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
> >>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
> >>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
> >>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
> >
> > Yeah don't skip Margit. You can summon both an npc & ashes, and take a
> >hit occasionally and then run away. BTW did you encounter Patches yet in
> >Murkwater cave? He sells an item that is very useful in the Margit
> >fight.... (There's a similar one for the Mogh Lord of Blood fight)
> >
> >rms
> *---
>
> I gots the shackle!! I did not kill Patches. I did some research
> first!
>
> I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
> one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!

FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.

The shackle will help with Margit, but I'd save it until after he's down
past half health, or maybe after your summons die. it only worked twice
when I tried it and my summons broke it. It should give you time to heal,
and get one big charged heavy off on him if no one is plinking him.

- Justisaur

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 by: PW - Tue, 17 May 2022 15:44 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 07:19:44 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:18:49 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:42:19 -0600, "rms"
>> <rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>> >>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>> >>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>> >>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
>> >
>> > Yeah don't skip Margit. You can summon both an npc & ashes, and take a
>> >hit occasionally and then run away. BTW did you encounter Patches yet in
>> >Murkwater cave? He sells an item that is very useful in the Margit
>> >fight.... (There's a similar one for the Mogh Lord of Blood fight)
>> >
>> >rms
>> *---
>>
>> I gots the shackle!! I did not kill Patches. I did some research
>> first!
>>
>> I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
>> one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!
>
>FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.
>
>The shackle will help with Margit, but I'd save it until after he's down
>past half health, or maybe after your summons die. it only worked twice
>when I tried it and my summons broke it. It should give you time to heal,
>and get one big charged heavy off on him if no one is plinking him.
>
>- Justisaur

*--
I am not sure what you mean by your last comment.

I do not have any lightning incarnations. Just fire stuff which, from
what I read, doesn't work on dragons.

Thanks for the Margit tip. I will set aside a couple ours tomorrow
just for that. I remember you saying you were not impressed with the
shackle.

I don't have any good spirit ashes either. Don't know where to look
for some good ones and also lightning stuff.

-pw

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