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 by: PW - Tue, 17 May 2022 16:00 UTC

>
>FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.

*---

I get it. I have the lightening spear incantation. I just swapped it
for urgent heal which doesn't seem to do much any way.

I have 18 mind (and 24 faith) but my FP seems to get used up quickly.

Thanks!

-pw

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 by: PW - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:15 UTC

>> I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
>> one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!
>
>FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.
>
>The shackle will help with Margit, but I'd save it until after he's down
>past half health, or maybe after your summons die. it only worked twice
>when I tried it and my summons broke it. It should give you time to heal,
>and get one big charged heavy off on him if no one is plinking him.
>
>- Justisaur
*---

Well guys. I killed the dragon! Very strange this time. I feel I
did not do very much this time. I just used my upgraded starting
weapon on horseback, sometimes with the electrify incantation. But
mostly without it.

Quick strikes and ride away before I got melted. The lightining spear
didn't do much when it actually hit the dragon. In fact, in order to
it to be somewhat effective the couple times it actually hit the
dragon, I had to be on the ground and very close. Dangerously close.
The range was about 20 feet. And I was off my mount and vulternable.

Not much help.

But, instead of the Wolf Ash Spirits, I tried the Jellyfish for the
first time. It never really got close to the dragon with it's spray
but it did live longer than the wolves.

I need to look up the Jellyfish. What was very weird, is that I did
alot less to take down the dragon. In fact, I was doing nothing when
it's healthbar went down from about 1/3 to nothing. I just watched it
die from a distance and then finished it off after the health bar
disappeared.

Strange.

So now I have a dragon heart to do something with. And I got a bunch
of runes for killing it.

I tried to find Yuri (?) but he was gone. Last time I had a
conversation it ended with something like kill all the dragons I want.

My Mind is at 18 and Faith is at 24. My FP doesn't last long. Goes
quick. I think I have my flasks set to 5 or 6 HP and 2 FP.

Don't know what to level up next which will be 78.

-pw

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 by: Justisaur - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:20 UTC

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 7:15:32 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >> I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
> >> one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!
> >
> >FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.
> >
> >The shackle will help with Margit, but I'd save it until after he's down
> >past half health, or maybe after your summons die. it only worked twice
> >when I tried it and my summons broke it. It should give you time to heal,
> >and get one big charged heavy off on him if no one is plinking him.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *---
>
> Well guys. I killed the dragon! Very strange this time. I feel I
> did not do very much this time. I just used my upgraded starting
> weapon on horseback, sometimes with the electrify incantation. But
> mostly without it.
>
> Quick strikes and ride away before I got melted. The lightining spear
> didn't do much when it actually hit the dragon. In fact, in order to
> it to be somewhat effective the couple times it actually hit the
> dragon, I had to be on the ground and very close. Dangerously close.
> The range was about 20 feet. And I was off my mount and vulternable.
>
> Not much help.
>
> But, instead of the Wolf Ash Spirits, I tried the Jellyfish for the
> first time. It never really got close to the dragon with it's spray
> but it did live longer than the wolves.
>
> I need to look up the Jellyfish. What was very weird, is that I did
> alot less to take down the dragon. In fact, I was doing nothing when
> it's healthbar went down from about 1/3 to nothing. I just watched it
> die from a distance and then finished it off after the health bar
> disappeared.
>
> Strange.
>
> So now I have a dragon heart to do something with. And I got a bunch
> of runes for killing it.
>
> I tried to find Yuri (?) but he was gone. Last time I had a
> conversation it ended with something like kill all the dragons I want.
>
> My Mind is at 18 and Faith is at 24. My FP doesn't last long. Goes
> quick. I think I have my flasks set to 5 or 6 HP and 2 FP.
>
> Don't know what to level up next which will be 78.

The Jellyfish's spit is poison, it does very little direct damage, but
poison does % damage, so it probably poisoned the dragon and killed it.

You can 'spend' the dragon heart at the dragon chapel to get faith/arcane
dragon incantations, and the dragon seal. The rot breath is crazy good
against many bosses, but you need to invest a bit in arcane to use it,
or you can eventually get a mimic helm that gives you 8.

As you're mostly str so far arcane might be spreading a bit too thin with
faith too, some arcane can go a long way though.

I'd say if you can kill that dragon, you might be able to kill the tree sentinel
(golden knight on a horse) at the beginning, he drops a pretty good str/fai
weapon (though I find it a bit slow.)

As to what to invest in, I'd get your mind up to 21 at least, maybe as much as 30
I'd probably stick either to str or faith primarily until you find a good str/fai
weapon like the above mentioned one. I'd aim for 40 each at least. There's some
pretty good ones along the way. You'll probably want some endurance as
most str/fai weapons are heavy and use a lot. 20 to start to aim toward and
see how that is.

- Justisaur

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 by: PW - Thu, 19 May 2022 03:27 UTC

On Wed, 18 May 2022 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 7:15:32 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> >> I am still having a heck of a time with dragons like the Agheel Lake
>> >> one. Not sure if Confessors are built to take them on!
>> >
>> >FYI dragons are very vulnerable to lightning. Hint. Hint.
>> >
>> >The shackle will help with Margit, but I'd save it until after he's down
>> >past half health, or maybe after your summons die. it only worked twice
>> >when I tried it and my summons broke it. It should give you time to heal,
>> >and get one big charged heavy off on him if no one is plinking him.
>> >
>> >- Justisaur
>> *---
>>
>> Well guys. I killed the dragon! Very strange this time. I feel I
>> did not do very much this time. I just used my upgraded starting
>> weapon on horseback, sometimes with the electrify incantation. But
>> mostly without it.
>>
>> Quick strikes and ride away before I got melted. The lightining spear
>> didn't do much when it actually hit the dragon. In fact, in order to
>> it to be somewhat effective the couple times it actually hit the
>> dragon, I had to be on the ground and very close. Dangerously close.
>> The range was about 20 feet. And I was off my mount and vulternable.
>>
>> Not much help.
>>
>> But, instead of the Wolf Ash Spirits, I tried the Jellyfish for the
>> first time. It never really got close to the dragon with it's spray
>> but it did live longer than the wolves.
>>
>> I need to look up the Jellyfish. What was very weird, is that I did
>> alot less to take down the dragon. In fact, I was doing nothing when
>> it's healthbar went down from about 1/3 to nothing. I just watched it
>> die from a distance and then finished it off after the health bar
>> disappeared.
>>
>> Strange.
>>
>> So now I have a dragon heart to do something with. And I got a bunch
>> of runes for killing it.
>>
>> I tried to find Yuri (?) but he was gone. Last time I had a
>> conversation it ended with something like kill all the dragons I want.
>>
>> My Mind is at 18 and Faith is at 24. My FP doesn't last long. Goes
>> quick. I think I have my flasks set to 5 or 6 HP and 2 FP.
>>
>> Don't know what to level up next which will be 78.
>
>The Jellyfish's spit is poison, it does very little direct damage, but
>poison does % damage, so it probably poisoned the dragon and killed it.
>
>You can 'spend' the dragon heart at the dragon chapel to get faith/arcane
>dragon incantations, and the dragon seal. The rot breath is crazy good
>against many bosses, but you need to invest a bit in arcane to use it,
>or you can eventually get a mimic helm that gives you 8.
>
>As you're mostly str so far arcane might be spreading a bit too thin with
>faith too, some arcane can go a long way though.
>
>I'd say if you can kill that dragon, you might be able to kill the tree sentinel
>(golden knight on a horse) at the beginning, he drops a pretty good str/fai
>weapon (though I find it a bit slow.)
>
>As to what to invest in, I'd get your mind up to 21 at least, maybe as much as 30
>I'd probably stick either to str or faith primarily until you find a good str/fai
>weapon like the above mentioned one. I'd aim for 40 each at least. There's some
>pretty good ones along the way. You'll probably want some endurance as
>most str/fai weapons are heavy and use a lot. 20 to start to aim toward and
>see how that is.
>
>- Justisaur

**----

That is really good info Justisaur!

I just cleaned out Castle Morne in WP but I gave up on the fast boss
at the end. The best I did was to get him down to about 1/3 HP.

I know the boss is part of a quest but I can't use the Grafted Blade
Greatsword. Way too heavy. Needs 40 str and I have 38 I think but it
weighs 21!

Min is now 19, faith 24, end 16, dex 17 arcane still stuck at
beginning 9 as with int. vigor 25. lvl 78.

I have my starting broadsword to +5 and I like it alot because it is
very fast and I can electrify it. I have a bunch of other good
weapons too no but they are pretty slow and don't do a whole lot more
damage.

Thanks again,

-pw

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 by: PW - Thu, 19 May 2022 22:52 UTC

On Wed, 18 May 2022 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur <
>You can 'spend' the dragon heart at the dragon chapel to get faith/arcane
>dragon incantations, and the dragon seal. The rot breath is crazy good
>against many bosses, but you need to invest a bit in arcane to use it,
>or you can eventually get a mimic helm that gives you 8.

I went to the Church Of Dragon Communion. I do not see myself having
enough Arcane to use any of those 3 things for a long time.

>
>As you're mostly str so far arcane might be spreading a bit too thin with
>faith too, some arcane can go a long way though.
>
>I'd say if you can kill that dragon, you might be able to kill the tree sentinel
>(golden knight on a horse) at the beginning, he drops a pretty good str/fai
>weapon (though I find it a bit slow.)
>

Done. I just used my Quality Broadsword + 5 on Torrent. No
incantations of Ashes of War. Straight up :-)

Took me a few times and good thing the Church of Elleh SoG is there
and that the TS rides away so I can retrieve my runes. I just kept
waiting for him to ride off with his back to me and kept attacking.
Didn't take as long as the Nightrider (?) on the way to Castle Morne.

I don't think I am going to use the Golden Halberd I got from him
(even though I have the stats for it) since I have better weapons like
Bloodhound's Fang, Curved Greatsowr, Greataxe,.. and faster ones like
my Broadsword.

What does the number + next to the weapons stat mean? Golden Halberd
134 +40.

>As to what to invest in, I'd get your mind up to 21 at least, maybe as much as 30
>I'd probably stick either to str or faith primarily until you find a good str/fai
>weapon like the above mentioned one. I'd aim for 40 each at least. There's some
>pretty good ones along the way. You'll probably want some endurance as
>most str/fai weapons are heavy and use a lot. 20 to start to aim toward and
>see how that is.
>
>- Justisaur

Working on it and having fun doing so! I just increased Vigor but
next are Faith and Mind (I think). Thanks!

-pw

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 by: rms - Fri, 20 May 2022 00:21 UTC

>Didn't take as long as the Nightrider (?) on the way to Castle Morne.

If you're beating those Nighttime mini-bosses you're as good as anybody.
And as far as runes go, a reminder they represent time invested in the game,
so when you get anywhere near your next upgrade level requirement, consider
backing off and 'farming' to get to your next level. I'm finding more and
more that this becomes important, when I lose runes that’s about the one
thing that makes me frustrated.

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 18:21:47 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>Didn't take as long as the Nightrider (?) on the way to Castle Morne.
>
> If you're beating those Nighttime mini-bosses you're as good as anybody.

Thanks for the compliment rms!! What I have been doing with these two
and others that are not the crazy fast ones, is to take my time on
horseback (if I can) and not rush. Just backoff, let them cool off,
and then surprise attack them again. That is what I finally did with
the dragon at the lake.

I only used one HP flask for the Tree Sentinal and that was because I
hit the wrong key :-)

However, I did die 3 or 4 times before because I was too close and he
trapped me under his horse. Live and learn!

>And as far as runes go, a reminder they represent time invested in the game,
>so when you get anywhere near your next upgrade level requirement, consider
>backing off and 'farming' to get to your next level. I'm finding more and
>more that this becomes important, when I lose runes thatÂ’s about the one
>thing that makes me frustrated.
>
>rms

I am doing that now too! I need almost 40,000 for my next level! And
it still takes a long time to get runes. It is not like these
mini-bosses reward one with tons of runes.

When I am 1/2 way or so to my next level, head to the bridge to fill
iln the gap! :-)

-pw

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On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:33:56 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>I saw nothing under the tree in the nest. I didn't beat it, but I did
>>get it far enough away for a while to search around. I only found a
>>dragon fly whatever.
>
> Oh I'm confusing my dragons! Agheel is an optional boss. If you want to
>explore the Lucaria Academy you'll need a key that *another* dragon has, in
>a different lake west of the Academy complex. This is all much farther
>north.
>
>In my own game, I've beaten a late game optional boss 'Mogh', explored a bit
>more of Mountain Top of the Giants, finished a character 'Varre' 's
>questline. I hope I'm nearing the end :)
>
>rms

*-

I think I saw it at LOTL but I do not see it on this list:

https://dotesports.com/general/news/all-dragon-locations-in-elden-ring

-pw

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 by: rms - Sat, 21 May 2022 20:02 UTC

BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab

This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
might ones I might be missing:
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!

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 by: rms - Sat, 21 May 2022 20:08 UTC

>I know where the bridge is with the dragon on it but for the life of
>me Google will not tell me where the FORK is! I did find a couple of
>videos and it looks exactly where I have been but I gone in all
>directions and it is pretty dire. Not much around there.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Interactive+Map?id=4542&lat=-166.703&lng=152.891&zoom=8&code=mapA

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On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
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>BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab

Man, that is in Caelib. I do not survive very long there! Big,
weird, strong enemies.

But - I think I am going to go there next or soon. I don't have much
to lose right now.

Oh great: "
Elden Ring Abandoned Cave Guide: How to Beat the Cleanrot Knight duo
Perhaps one of the worst caves in all of The Lands Between. " from
https://www.vg247.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave

Nah - not for me right now!

>
>This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>might ones I might be missing:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>
>rms

Good point about getting it early in the game! Thanks for the info on
Talismans.

-pw

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On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
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>BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>
>This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>might ones I might be missing:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>
>rms

*--

I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/

-pw

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 by: PW - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:43 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>
>This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>might ones I might be missing:
>https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>
>rms

*--

The only one of these I have experienced so far is a little poison:

https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-every-status-effect-ranked-by-how-annoying-they-are/

No thanks!! :-)

-pw

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Sun, 22 May 2022 04:01 UTC

On 5/21/2022 7:24 PM, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>
>> BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>>
>> This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>> equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>> might ones I might be missing:
>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>> Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>> high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>>
>
> I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
> https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/
>
Go in the cave and find out!! :P

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 by: rms - Sun, 22 May 2022 19:48 UTC

One very last 'farming' tip. Doing this netted me ~2Million runes in
~40minutes. This video explains exactly how to do it easily:
"A Perfectly Optimized 3 Million+ Per Hour Rune Farm"
https://youtu.be/4TSBjKJd9R0

rms

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 by: PW - Sun, 22 May 2022 20:40 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 21:01:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 5/21/2022 7:24 PM, PW wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
>> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>>
>>> BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>>>
>>> This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>>> equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>>> might ones I might be missing:
>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>>> Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>>> high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>>>
>>
>> I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
>> https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/
>>
>Go in the cave and find out!! :P
*---

You first DT!!! :-)

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On 5/22/2022 1:40 PM, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2022 21:01:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2022 7:24 PM, PW wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
>>> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>>>>
>>>> This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>>>> equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>>>> might ones I might be missing:
>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>>>> Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>>>> high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
>>> https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/
>>>
>> Go in the cave and find out!! :P
>
> You first DT!!! :-)

I have enough experience traveling the multiverse to get others to do
things like that for me. :D

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 by: PW - Sun, 22 May 2022 23:28 UTC

>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
>
>- Justisaur
*--

Got him! Almost the first time but took me a few more tries.

And didn't use the shackle. I did try it a couple of times earlier
but it got me killed trying to use it. Too confusing to switch
everything around under pressure. Just the Electrify Armament
Incantation. The NPC lasted 3/4 through the battle. My wolves did
great!

I only refreshed my HP twice. Lots to do under pressure! I don't even
think I used my shield because everything was so fast!

All right! 9000 Runes. Lost 7K that I went into with but I didn't
even try to get them back. No biggie.

What a trip! :-)

Now off to the castle!

-pw

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 by: PW - Mon, 23 May 2022 00:24 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 17:28:22 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

>
>>I'd think you could take on Margit by now, it might take a few tries.
>>You can summon sorcerer Rogier right outside the fog wall.
>>You may be able to upgrade some spirit ashes by now, the
>>Jellyfish works pretty well for him.
>>
>>- Justisaur
>*--
>
>Got him! Almost the first time but took me a few more tries.
>
>And didn't use the shackle. I did try it a couple of times earlier
>but it got me killed trying to use it. Too confusing to switch
>everything around under pressure. Just the Electrify Armament
>Incantation. The NPC lasted 3/4 through the battle. My wolves did
>great!
>
>I only refreshed my HP twice. Lots to do under pressure! I don't even
>think I used my shield because everything was so fast!
>
>All right! 9000 Runes. Lost 7K that I went into with but I didn't
>even try to get them back. No biggie.
>
>What a trip! :-)
>
>Now off to the castle!
>
>-pw

*--

Supposedly after defeating Margit, I got another Talisman pouch(?). I
pressed E but I see only one in my inventory. I have just three
talismans but I cannot use another. Only Leave or Discard are the
options.

And, shortly after, the game crashed. When I restarted it I had no
runes. Then after getting some I think the ones I lost eventually
added back in to my total but maybe I was imagining things.

This webpage says I was supposed to receive a Talisman Pouch and
12,000 runes. I only received 9000 runes!

At the top of the screen in the compass there is a rune icon but I
cannot find it on the map. I usually see it where I lost it.

https://vulkk.com/2022/02/25/how-to-defeat-margit-the-fell-omen-boss-in-elden-ring/

So I did not get a talisman pouch and I only received 9/12K runes!!

And the page says for beating Margit I was also supposed to receive
some type of acheivement.

I wonder what is going on? I only have three talismans but I would
like to use more than one since I supposedly got another pouch but I
do not think I did. I only see one in my inventory.

-pw

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 by: PW - Mon, 23 May 2022 00:25 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:03:44 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2022 1:40 PM, PW wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 21:01:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/21/2022 7:24 PM, PW wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
>>>> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>>>>>
>>>>> This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>>>>> equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>>>>> might ones I might be missing:
>>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>>>>> Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>>>>> high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
>>>> https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/
>>>>
>>> Go in the cave and find out!! :P
>>
>> You first DT!!! :-)
>
>I have enough experience traveling the multiverse to get others to do
>things like that for me. :D

*--

Then if you are traveling at the speed of light, if you put your
headlights on, do they do anything?

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 by: PW - Mon, 23 May 2022 00:58 UTC

On Sun, 22 May 2022 18:24:35 -0600, PW <
>Supposedly after defeating Margit, I got another Talisman pouch(?). I
>pressed E but I see only one in my inventory. I have just three
>talismans but I cannot use another. Only Leave or Discard are the
>options.
>
>And, shortly after, the game crashed. When I restarted it I had no
>runes. Then after getting some I think the ones I lost eventually
>added back in to my total but maybe I was imagining things.
>
>This webpage says I was supposed to receive a Talisman Pouch and
>12,000 runes. I only received 9000 runes!
>
>At the top of the screen in the compass there is a rune icon but I
>cannot find it on the map. I usually see it where I lost it.
>
>https://vulkk.com/2022/02/25/how-to-defeat-margit-the-fell-omen-boss-in-elden-ring/
>
>So I did not get a talisman pouch and I only received 9/12K runes!!
>
>And the page says for beating Margit I was also supposed to receive
>some type of acheivement.
>
>I wonder what is going on? I only have three talismans but I would
>like to use more than one since I supposedly got another pouch but I
>do not think I did. I only see one in my inventory.
>
>-pw

*--

I rebooted and restarted the game. I now see another slot for a
talisman!

But I did just read that there is a talisman pouch glitch in ER.

Not sure if I was really supposed to get 12,000 runes or 9,000 runes.

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On 5/22/2022 5:25 PM, PW wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2022 14:03:44 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2022 1:40 PM, PW wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 21:01:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/21/2022 7:24 PM, PW wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 14:02:59 -0600, "rms"
>>>>> <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW on subject of getting more Runes:
>>>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/golden+scarab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This talisman provides ~20% more runes from all enemy kills when you have it
>>>>>> equipped. I only just found out about it from looking at list to see what I
>>>>>> might ones I might be missing:
>>>>>> https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Talismans
>>>>>> Like all those catacombs there's a mini-boss fight to get it, but put it
>>>>>> high on your list for searching for. Better to get it earlier in the game!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't even know what Scarlet Rot is!!
>>>>> https://www.thegamer.com/elden-ring-abandoned-cave-dungeon-guide/
>>>>>
>>>> Go in the cave and find out!! :P
>>>
>>> You first DT!!! :-)
>>
>> I have enough experience traveling the multiverse to get others to do
>> things like that for me. :D
>
> Then if you are traveling at the speed of light, if you put your
> headlights on, do they do anything?

Depends on the universe. The effect in some is ... decidedly weird.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 5:58:32 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:

> Not sure if I was really supposed to get 12,000 runes or 9,000 runes.

Summons (not spirits) take a bit off the total to compensate for making
it easier. So if you had Rogier it would drop it down a bit.

- Justisaur

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On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:23:07 PM UTC-7, Justisaur wrote:
> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:07:25 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
> > I've just hit my first, what feels like a brick wall, in this Melania fight,
> > an optional boss late in the game. All my boss fights previously, even if I
> > died at first felt doable; but this one both my Mimic Tear ashes and me are
> > dead before she's down even halfway in her first phase, and that's when I
> > got lucky and trapped her in a corner. My present build i guess won't cut
> > it for her, i'll come back to it later i think. trying the Tiche ash,
> > bloodhound step and something or other else are suggestions i've seen
> >

I'm on Melania now. 9 tries so far, got to 2nd phase twice. I've tried Tiche -
I missed him somehow so went back and got him. He's got far fewer hp than
the Mimic Tear, so I'm not sure, he does seem to dish it out a bit faster. I tried
bloodhound step and while I was only mostly able to avoid being hit, I'd die
if I tried to do anything but slide away, and she's so fast she's right on top of
me again in a second.

My last 2 fights she did 3 back to back waterfoul dances and wiped me out.
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to survive that, though it seems random as a
couple times she didn't even use it.

None of my spells seem to be effective, except for one of the frost ones
is o.k. Also the death's poker which does frost is very effective, I got
her down to 1/2 health on the 2nd phase one time with it, but it's slow
so leaves me vulnerable. I could try hoarfrost stomp on something
as that's quicker, or maybe the ice spear, but neither do anywhere near
the damage of the ghostflame frost from death's poker, which can
get me 2-3k, and a pretty big chunk when the frost buildup completes.

I'll probably give it a few more tries, then see if anyone's available to
summon and if not, I'll head off and come back later too. I haven't
really looked much into fighting her yet online either, she's supposedly
vulnerable to rot and bloodloss, but I don't have a way to apply either
effectively. I could use arrows/pots I guess, but they haven't been
effective when I've tried in the past. I don't have the arc for those.

- Justisaur

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On Mon, 23 May 2022 08:53:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 5:58:32 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>
>> Not sure if I was really supposed to get 12,000 runes or 9,000 runes.
>
>Summons (not spirits) take a bit off the total to compensate for making
>it easier. So if you had Rogier it would drop it down a bit.
>
>- Justisaur

*---

Middlemen, eh? How about that!

Thanks. I would probably never have found that out. Did Yuri get his
cut from me defeating Bloody Finger all by myself? He didn't even
show up for the fight! :-)

-pw

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