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* Free Game: Daggerfall (again)Spalls Hurgenson
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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Fri, 20 May 2022 16:29 UTC

GOG is having a sale on Bethesda games, and are sweetening the deal by
giving away Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall

(Elder Scrolls 1: Arena is also free, but has been that way for years.
Still, if you're interested:
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_arena)

This offer is probably a lot less enticing than the marketing morons
at GOG think, since the game has been free on Steam for the last
month. Still, if you'd rather own the game on GOG (or just want it on
multiple platforms), now's your chance.

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 by: PW - Fri, 20 May 2022 17:40 UTC

On Fri, 20 May 2022 12:29:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>GOG is having a sale on Bethesda games, and are sweetening the deal by
>giving away Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
>
>(Elder Scrolls 1: Arena is also free, but has been that way for years.
>Still, if you're interested:
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_arena)
>
>This offer is probably a lot less enticing than the marketing morons
>at GOG think, since the game has been free on Steam for the last
>month. Still, if you'd rather own the game on GOG (or just want it on
>multiple platforms), now's your chance.
>

*--

Thanks! I just got it through Steam as I can't stand the GOG
interface.

What is Free To Play, again? Do I have to buy stuff? Is it on-line
only?

-pw

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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Sat, 21 May 2022 00:48 UTC

On Fri, 20 May 2022 11:40:34 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 May 2022 12:29:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>>GOG is having a sale on Bethesda games, and are sweetening the deal by
>>giving away Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
>>https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall

>What is Free To Play, again? Do I have to buy stuff? Is it on-line
>only?

There is no hard-and-fast definition of "free-to-play". It could be
exactly what it sounds like: here is a game, you can play it for free,
no strings attached, everything is included".

More often than not, however, it is associated with games where the
core game is free but there are a lot of extras that you still have to
pay for to get the complete experience. A lot of MMORPGs have switched
to this model: get the base game for free, but if you want an
expansion? Open your wallet. Need more character slots? Cha-ching!
Extra weapons, cosmetics, etc? Not free. And so on.

In rare cases I've seen free-to-play associated with games that offer
free trials; 'play this game free... but only for the first week.
After that, you'll need to pay us a subscription fee if you wanna keep
at it.'

"Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall" falls in the first category; download it
from their website and its yours forever (well, so long as you don't
delete the installer). Even if next week GOG/Bethesda decide to start
charging $59.99/hour for the privilege of playing the game, you can
still play it for as long as you want without paying a cent. But more
often than not, 'free-to-play' is used to refer to the second
definition above.

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 by: JAB - Sat, 21 May 2022 07:31 UTC

On 21/05/2022 01:48, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2022 11:40:34 -0600, PW
> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 12:29:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>> <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> GOG is having a sale on Bethesda games, and are sweetening the deal by
>>> giving away Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
>>> https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
>
>> What is Free To Play, again? Do I have to buy stuff? Is it on-line
>> only?
>
> There is no hard-and-fast definition of "free-to-play". It could be
> exactly what it sounds like: here is a game, you can play it for free,
> no strings attached, everything is included".
>
> More often than not, however, it is associated with games where the
> core game is free but there are a lot of extras that you still have to
> pay for to get the complete experience. A lot of MMORPGs have switched
> to this model: get the base game for free, but if you want an
> expansion? Open your wallet. Need more character slots? Cha-ching!
> Extra weapons, cosmetics, etc? Not free. And so on.
>
> In rare cases I've seen free-to-play associated with games that offer
> free trials; 'play this game free... but only for the first week.
> After that, you'll need to pay us a subscription fee if you wanna keep
> at it.'
>
> "Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall" falls in the first category; download it
> from their website and its yours forever (well, so long as you don't
> delete the installer). Even if next week GOG/Bethesda decide to start
> charging $59.99/hour for the privilege of playing the game, you can
> still play it for as long as you want without paying a cent. But more
> often than not, 'free-to-play' is used to refer to the second
> definition above.
>

I tend to only use free-to-play for those that include some sort of
micro-transactions* in them. So even something like Crusader Kings II
where the base game is free but the are a lot of expansions to me it's
still just free.

When it comes to free-to-play games there is as you say a lot of
variation in how that's implemented. Probably the worst example I've
seen was the mobile version of Dungeon Keeper. In the UK the advertising
standards authority told them to remove the free-to-play description as
although it technical was it was basically unplayable without spending
money. Having played it they had a point as I uninstalled it after about
half-and-hour when it became apparently what they meant by free-to-play.

Personally I think the whole idea has been bad for the industry as a
whole not only because it encourages some dubious tactics from companies
but also that it's lead to the idea of you play one game and one game
only or player engagement to give it its nice title.

*Micro seems to have got very large over the years.

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 by: Mike S. - Sat, 21 May 2022 12:56 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:31:55 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

>I tend to only use free-to-play for those that include some sort of
>micro-transactions* in them. So even something like Crusader Kings II
>where the base game is free but the are a lot of expansions to me it's
>still just free.

This is exactly my definition as well but I would not fault someone
for using a different one.

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 by: Mike S. - Sat, 21 May 2022 13:07 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:31:55 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

>I tend to only use free-to-play for those that include some sort of
>micro-transactions* in them. So even something like Crusader Kings II
>where the base game is free but the are a lot of expansions to me it's
>still just free.

Just to be clear...

DaggerFall is free.

Lord of the Rings Online is free to play.

World of Warcraft lets you play till level 20 but then you must get a
sub to continue so I would call that free to try.

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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Sat, 21 May 2022 16:33 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:31:55 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
>On 21/05/2022 01:48, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 11:40:34 -0600, PW
>> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

>>> What is Free To Play, again? Do I have to buy stuff? Is it on-line
>>> only?

>> There is no hard-and-fast definition of "free-to-play".

>I tend to only use free-to-play for those that include some sort of
>micro-transactions* in them. So even something like Crusader Kings II
>where the base game is free but the are a lot of expansions to me it's
>still just free.
>
With me, it sort of on the number and type of expansions, and how
complete the base game is without them. "Star Wars: The Old Republic"
(at least at the time I played it, several years ago) straddled the
line; you got /a lot/ of core gameplay, and most of it was really well
done... but if you wanted an extra character, or more room to store
your loot (things I, as a grumpy old gamer, remember being something
games used to include gratis), you had to pay extra. There were also a
lot of extraneous cosmetics and pay-to-win (or at least,
'pay-to-avoid-grind') microtransactions.

Or take "Fortnite" (please). Its free-to-play mode is a complete and -
judging by the number of players - solid experience, but it pushes
hard on microtransactions for cosmetics, and there's an entire
secondary gamemode that you need to buy.

Are these free games? Free-to-play? Free-to-try? Everyone's idea of
what makes a game 'complete' will differ, of course. So where a game
falls in each category will be very subjective. And, lacking any
officially or legally defined term, publishers will take advantage of
this in their marketing.

>Personally I think the whole idea has been bad for the industry as a
>whole not only because it encourages some dubious tactics from companies
>but also that it's lead to the idea of you play one game and one game
>only or player engagement to give it its nice title.

>*Micro seems to have got very large over the years.

From what I recall, revenue from so-called microtransactions makes up
more than half of what big-name publishers collect every year.

Is it bad for the industry? From the perspective of the gamer, sure.
Features that used to be core to a game - or even secondary, but fun
stuff, like 'big head mode' - are being stripped away so they can be
purchased separately. The mechanics of the game are tweaked to make
anti-grinding microtransactions more popular. Story and atmosphere are
sacrificed as whole chunks of the game are resold as DLC ("Mass Effect
3" being the prime example). And there's a constant, unwelcome
pressure to buy-buy-buy being embedded into the games that fits poorly
with the experience (not to mention, its also an unhealthy level of
commercialism).

But games are an expensive and risky investment for publishers; you
can pour hundreds of millions of dollars into one and then - for no
clear reason - the game will flop (see "Anthem", for example).
Microtransactions help alleviate some of that risk; instead of the
boom-or-bust cycle, they provide a constant trickle of income that
can, in the long term, more than offset any losses from an
unpredictibly unpopular game. It also has the added benefit of
allowing data collection, and 'locking down' fickle customers who
might otherwise flit away to some other game. So from the perspective
of the industry, microtransactions are great. Which is, of course, why
they've come to dominate the market.

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Subject: Re: Free Game: Daggerfall (again)
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Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 20:52:17 -0600
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 by: PW - Sun, 22 May 2022 02:52 UTC

On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:07:06 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:31:55 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
>
>>I tend to only use free-to-play for those that include some sort of
>>micro-transactions* in them. So even something like Crusader Kings II
>>where the base game is free but the are a lot of expansions to me it's
>>still just free.
>
>Just to be clear...
>
>DaggerFall is free.
>
>Lord of the Rings Online is free to play.
>
>World of Warcraft lets you play till level 20 but then you must get a
>sub to continue so I would call that free to try.

*--

I think that clears it up for me Mike.

Thanks!

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