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* Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message RoutingAllanH
`* Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push messagePaul
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Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing Service

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From: nos...@unokix.invalid (AllanH)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing
Service
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 10:43:55 -0500
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 by: AllanH - Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:43 UTC

This is a service that I decided to disable.
For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled.
Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it
disabled?
Thanks...

Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing Service

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Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message
Routing Service
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:16:08 -0400
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 by: Paul - Fri, 25 Aug 2023 23:16 UTC

On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
> This is a service that I decided to disable.
> For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
> It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
> I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled.
> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
> Thanks...

Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.

https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/

It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
you over the head with a chair. Classy.

https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/

"I check the Error Log and find:
Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
"

This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the
automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).

There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6

Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
Delete the key referencing the MDM.
Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
gpupdate /force

But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.

Could we stop the service, disable it, then

sc delete servicename

I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.

Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.

Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
repair damage from a user-hammering.

Paul

Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routi

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 by: candycane - Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:19 UTC

Pa> It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
Pa> just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
Pa> a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
Pa> you over the head with a chair. Classy.

They try so hard to force their own will onto you, then pretend it's your
fault for wanting customization when their closed mindedness breaks stuff.

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Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing Service

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From: nos...@unokix.invalid (AllanH)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message
Routing Service
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 04:35:13 -0500
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 by: AllanH - Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:35 UTC

On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
>> This is a service that I decided to disable.
>> For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
>> It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
>> I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled.
>> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
>> Thanks...
>
> Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.
>
> https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/
>
> It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
> just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
> a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
> you over the head with a chair. Classy.
>
> https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/
>
> "I check the Error Log and find:
> Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
> MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
> "
>
> This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the
> automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
> this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
> is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).
>
> There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.
>
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6
>
> Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
> Delete the key referencing the MDM.
> Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
> gpupdate /force
>
> But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
> are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
> happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.
>
> Could we stop the service, disable it, then
>
> sc delete servicename
>
> I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.
>
> Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
> as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.
>
> Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
> so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
> repair damage from a user-hammering.
>
> Paul

Thanks for your reply.
The Enrollments key on my computer doesn't match that description either.
Since that service is never in the Running status anyway, I'll just
leave it as Manual.

Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing Service

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From: nos...@unokix.invalid (AllanH)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message
Routing Service
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 02:54:02 -0500
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 by: AllanH - Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:54 UTC

On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
>> This is a service that I decided to disable.
>> For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
>> It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
>> I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled.
>> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
>> Thanks...
>
> Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.
>
> https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/
>
> It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
> just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
> a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
> you over the head with a chair. Classy.
>
> https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/
>
> "I check the Error Log and find:
> Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
> MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
> "
>
> This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the
> automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
> this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
> is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).
>
> There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.
>
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6
>
> Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
> Delete the key referencing the MDM.
> Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
> gpupdate /force
>
> But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
> are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
> happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.
>
> Could we stop the service, disable it, then
>
> sc delete servicename
>
> I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.
>
> Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
> as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.
>
> Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
> so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
> repair damage from a user-hammering.
>
> Paul

Since I do a registry backup regularly, I changed my mind and decided to
delete the service.
I'll see if it stays that way.

Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message Routing Service

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From: nos...@unokix.invalid (AllanH)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Device Management Wireless Application Protocol Push message
Routing Service
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 by: AllanH - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 20:11 UTC

On 8/25/2023 6:16 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 8/25/2023 11:43 AM, AllanH wrote:
>> This is a service that I decided to disable.
>> For some reason, it will not stay disabled.
>> It reverts back to the Startup Type of Manual (Trigger Start).
>> I've never had this type of problem with any service that I have disabled.
>> Could someone tell me why this happens and what I can do to keep it disabled?
>> Thanks...
>
> Claimed to be Win10 only, and should be manual.
>
> https://batcmd.com/windows/10/services/dmwappushservice/
>
> It's the usual thing. Microsoft uses a malware technique,
> just like tag team wrestlers in a ring. You try to disable
> a service, a "boss process" comes up behind you and hits
> you over the head with a chair. Classy.
>
> https://www.tweakhound.com/2021/03/18/oo-shutup10-issue/
>
> "I check the Error Log and find:
> Error Event ID 406 Microsoft-Windows-DeviceManagement-Enterprise-Diagnostics-Provider
> MDM PushRouter: Pushrouter failed to start because the dmwappushservice service is disabled.
> "
>
> This is related to Mobile Device Management (MDM) and InTune. Maybe the
> automation you see, is in Win10 Pro ? They were presumably testing
> this Enterprise feature, in end-user PCs. Pushing out policies via it,
> is similar to GPEDIT (a Pro feature, for IT Enterprise control of end-users).
>
> There is no structure in Enrollments, that matches a description here.
>
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/event-2545-microsoft-windows-devicemanagement/a7e0f8e9-685f-44d8-be69-58fd1f8a716e?page=6
>
> Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Enrollments
> Delete the key referencing the MDM.
> Delete the key referencing WMI_Bridge_SCCM_Server
> gpupdate /force
>
> But that could be on an Enterprise machine. The Enrollments on my VM
> are just GUIDs. And none of them is "special looking". What would
> happen if you killed every entry in the Enrollments ? Hmmm.
>
> Could we stop the service, disable it, then
>
> sc delete servicename
>
> I suppose that would last until Patch Tuesday. Or... less.
>
> Maybe there would be a "permissions issue", a need to elevate
> as TrustedInstaller. Which is not an insurmountable problem.
>
> Windows TagTeamWrestlers do not normally re-run installers,
> so we have that working for us. A DISM restorehealth might
> repair damage from a user-hammering.
>
> Paul

Still no sign of the service even after applying the latest Cumulative
Update (KB5030211).
Thanks again for showing me the command to delete it. :)

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