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* Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Louis Ohland
+* Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Louis Ohland
|`* Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Tomas Slavotinek
| `* Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Louis Ohland
|  `- Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Tomas Slavotinek
`* Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Louis Ohland
 +* Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Tomas Slavotinek
 |`- Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]Louis Ohland
 `* IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Louis Ohland
  `* Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Tomas Slavotinek
   +* Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9JWR
   |`* Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Tomas Slavotinek
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   `* Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Grant Taylor
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    `* Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Louis Ohland
     `- Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9Louis Ohland

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Subject: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:07:21 -0500
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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 16:07 UTC

https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html

The second, more important difference is the presence of 12 volts on
pin 9. This voltage is used by some IBM monitors as a "power on" signal
(for example the IBM 5574-C05/06/07 and M06/W06 monitors where it closes
a normally opened power supply relay). Pin 9 is used as a "key" by most
other period-correct monitors, so the voltage won't even reach the
display unit, which means there's nothing to worry about in this case.
However if your monitor does have this pin populated, be careful, as
this could cause problems.

Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]

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Subject: Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]
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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 16:28 UTC

Image Adapter /A has Pin9 as 12v fused.

On 7/14/2021 11:07, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html
>
>    The second, more important difference is the presence of 12 volts on
> pin 9. This voltage is used by some IBM monitors as a "power on" signal
> (for example the IBM 5574-C05/06/07 and M06/W06 monitors where it closes
> a normally opened power supply relay). Pin 9 is used as a "key" by most
> other period-correct monitors, so the voltage won't even reach the
> display unit, which means there's nothing to worry about in this case.
> However if your monitor does have this pin populated, be careful, as
> this could cause problems.

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Subject: Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]
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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 16:45 UTC

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en

5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
5574-C19 (color 20-inch)

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:07 UTC

On 14.7.2021 18:28, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Image Adapter /A has Pin9 as 12v fused.
>
> On 7/14/2021 11:07, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html
>>
>>     The second, more important difference is the presence of 12 volts
>> on pin 9. This voltage is used by some IBM monitors as a "power on"
>> signal (for example the IBM 5574-C05/06/07 and M06/W06 monitors where
>> it closes a normally opened power supply relay). Pin 9 is used as a
>> "key" by most other period-correct monitors, so the voltage won't even
>> reach the display unit, which means there's nothing to worry about in
>> this case. However if your monitor does have this pin populated, be
>> careful, as this could cause problems.
>

Yep, I don't know if there is a direct connection between the two
display types, probably not. But it makes sense to use the same,
normally unpopulated, pin for the "dangerous" 12 V signal.

Gonna add a Image/A link to the DA page... (thought it was already there).

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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:12 UTC

I looked for the 5574 monitors, didn't turn up much.

What monitors use the pin 9 powered relay in their PSU?

On 7/14/2021 12:07, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 14.7.2021 18:28, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Image Adapter /A has Pin9 as 12v fused.
>>
>> On 7/14/2021 11:07, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html
>>>
>>>     The second, more important difference is the presence of 12 volts
>>> on pin 9. This voltage is used by some IBM monitors as a "power on"
>>> signal (for example the IBM 5574-C05/06/07 and M06/W06 monitors where
>>> it closes a normally opened power supply relay). Pin 9 is used as a
>>> "key" by most other period-correct monitors, so the voltage won't even
>>> reach the display unit, which means there's nothing to worry about in
>>> this case. However if your monitor does have this pin populated, be
>>> careful, as this could cause problems.
>>
>
> Yep, I don't know if there is a direct connection between the two
> display types, probably not. But it makes sense to use the same,
> normally unpopulated, pin for the "dangerous" 12 V signal.
>
> Gonna add a Image/A link to the DA page... (thought it was already there).
>

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:30 UTC

Aside from the Japanese models mentioned on the DA page, no clue...

On 14.7.2021 19:12, Louis Ohland wrote:
> I looked for the 5574 monitors, didn't turn up much.
>
> What monitors use the pin 9 powered relay in their PSU?
>
> On 7/14/2021 12:07, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> On 14.7.2021 18:28, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Image Adapter /A has Pin9 as 12v fused.
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2021 11:07, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html
>>>>
>>>>      The second, more important difference is the presence of 12 volts
>>>> on pin 9. This voltage is used by some IBM monitors as a "power on"
>>>> signal (for example the IBM 5574-C05/06/07 and M06/W06 monitors where
>>>> it closes a normally opened power supply relay). Pin 9 is used as a
>>>> "key" by most other period-correct monitors, so the voltage won't even
>>>> reach the display unit, which means there's nothing to worry about in
>>>> this case. However if your monitor does have this pin populated, be
>>>> careful, as this could cause problems.
>>>
>>
>> Yep, I don't know if there is a direct connection between the two
>> display types, probably not. But it makes sense to use the same,
>> normally unpopulated, pin for the "dangerous" 12 V signal.
>>
>> Gonna add a Image/A link to the DA page... (thought it was already
>> there).
>>
>

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:40 UTC

What does "white" mean in this context?

Also, 20"? That's rather nice for 1992 or earlier...

On 14.7.2021 18:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>
>
> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)

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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:38 UTC

Dunno. Black and White? White color case?

I can't come up with an announcement letter...

On 7/14/2021 12:40, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> What does "white" mean in this context?
>
> Also, 20"? That's rather nice for 1992 or earlier...
>
> On 14.7.2021 18:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>
>>
>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>

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From: ohl...@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9
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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:46 UTC

http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf

On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>
>
> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:00 UTC

IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)

Yeah, makes sense, M06 was probably mono with green or amber phosphor
and W06 mono with white phosphor.

On 14.7.2021 20:46, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>
>
> On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>
>>
>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>

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 by: JWR - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:41 UTC

On 14-07-2021 21:00, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
> IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>
> Yeah, makes sense, M06 was probably mono with green or amber phosphor
> and W06 mono with white phosphor.
>
> On 14.7.2021 20:46, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>>
>>>
>>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>>
>

Or maybe the "mono" displays are green/amber/white on a black background
and the "white" display is black on a white background (aka paperwhite display) ?

--
Jelte,
Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 10:33 UTC

Effectively inverting the video signal in the monitor? That would be
kinda weird, but everything is possible...

On 16.7.2021 9:41, JWR wrote:
> On 14-07-2021 21:00, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>> IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>>
>> Yeah, makes sense, M06 was probably mono with green or amber phosphor
>> and W06 mono with white phosphor.
>>
>> On 14.7.2021 20:46, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>>>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>>>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>>>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>>>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>>>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>>>
>>
>
> Or maybe the "mono" displays are green/amber/white on a black background
> and the "white" display is black on a white background (aka paperwhite
> display) ?
>

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 10:50 UTC

Well, lookie what we have here:

https://diarywind.com/blog/e/ibm-ps55-monitor.html

Google translate says:

5574-M06 - 1024x768 dot I, 15 inch 64 gradation green yellow
5574-W06 - 1024x768 dot I, 14 inch 64 gradation monochrome white

So, 64 shades of green or yellow for M06 and 64 shades of "white" for W06?

It's weird how it lists the number of shades though, since all these
should be analog monitors. Maybe that part is referring to the adapter
rather than the monitor itself?

On 16.7.2021 12:33, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> Effectively inverting the video signal in the monitor? That would be
> kinda weird, but everything is possible...
>
> On 16.7.2021 9:41, JWR wrote:
>> On 14-07-2021 21:00, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>>> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>>> IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>>>
>>> Yeah, makes sense, M06 was probably mono with green or amber phosphor
>>> and W06 mono with white phosphor.
>>>
>>> On 14.7.2021 20:46, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>>>>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>>>>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>>>>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>>>>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>>>>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Or maybe the "mono" displays are green/amber/white on a black background
>> and the "white" display is black on a white background (aka paperwhite
>> display) ?
>>
>

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:54 UTC

English version available here meow:

https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Video/PS55_DA.html#Display_Units

On 16.7.2021 12:50, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> Well, lookie what we have here:
>
> https://diarywind.com/blog/e/ibm-ps55-monitor.html
>
> Google translate says:
>
> 5574-M06 - 1024x768 dot I, 15 inch 64 gradation green yellow
> 5574-W06 - 1024x768 dot I, 14 inch 64 gradation monochrome white
>
> So, 64 shades of green or yellow for M06 and 64 shades of "white" for W06?
>
> It's weird how it lists the number of shades though, since all these
> should be analog monitors. Maybe that part is referring to the adapter
> rather than the monitor itself?
>
> On 16.7.2021 12:33, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> Effectively inverting the video signal in the monitor? That would be
>> kinda weird, but everything is possible...
>>
>> On 16.7.2021 9:41, JWR wrote:
>>> On 14-07-2021 21:00, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>>>> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>>>> IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, makes sense, M06 was probably mono with green or amber phosphor
>>>> and W06 mono with white phosphor.
>>>>
>>>> On 14.7.2021 20:46, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/14/2021 11:45, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>>>> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
>>>>>> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
>>>>>> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
>>>>>> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
>>>>>> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
>>>>>> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or maybe the "mono" displays are green/amber/white on a black background
>>> and the "white" display is black on a white background (aka paperwhite
>>> display) ?
>>>
>>
>

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 by: Grant Taylor - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 18:05 UTC

On 7/14/21 1:00 PM, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)

Is 15 inch a typo?

The IBM document clearly states 14 inch.

o Display Units
- 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch), 5574-W06 (white 15-inch), 5574-C05
(color 14-inch), 5574-C06 (color 14-inch), 5574-C07 (color
16-inch), 5574-C19 (color 20-inch), 8515-A01 (color 20-inch)

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:36:22 +0200
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:36 UTC

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en

5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
8515-A01 (color 20-inch)

http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf

IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
IBM 5574-C06 (14 inch color display)
IBM 5574-C07 (16 inch color display)
IBM 5574-C09 (20 inch color display)

https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5540-T.pdf
https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5550-N_Y.pdf
https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5550-W.pdf

5574-M06 15 inch mono (green? my Japanese ain't good enough)
5574-W06 15 inch mono white
5574-C05 14 inch color
5574-C06 14 inch color
5574-C07 16 inch color
5574-C19 20 inch color
8515-A01 14 inch color
8516-002 14 inch color
8518-002 14 inch color
9515-002 14 inch color
9517-002 17 inch color

I'd say the DOS announcement letter is probably wrong and 5574-M06 and
-W06 are both supposed to be 15 inch.

On 18.7.2021 20:05, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 7/14/21 1:00 PM, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
>
> Is 15 inch a typo?
>
> The IBM document clearly states 14 inch.
>
>  o   Display Units
>     -   5574-M06 (mono 14-inch), 5574-W06 (white 15-inch), 5574-C05
>         (color 14-inch), 5574-C06 (color 14-inch), 5574-C07 (color
>         16-inch), 5574-C19 (color 20-inch), 8515-A01 (color 20-inch)
>
>
>
>

Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9
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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:31 UTC

It came from the AIX publication. Not much for documentation.

Entirely possumble. The announcement search has no hits for 5574 and
filtering by Japan as the location.

On 7/18/2021 13:05, Grant Taylor wrote:
> IBM 5574-M06

Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]

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Subject: Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9
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 by: Louis Ohland - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:40 UTC

No hits for "display" where the 5574 is mentioned...

On 7/18/2021 14:31, Louis Ohland wrote:
> It came from the AIX publication. Not much for documentation.
>
> Entirely possumble. The announcement search has no hits for 5574 and
> filtering by Japan as the location.
>
> On 7/18/2021 13:05, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> IBM 5574-M06
>

Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9 [XGA and XGA-2]

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Subject: Re: IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display) Re: Pin 9 from Planet 9
[XGA and XGA-2]
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:55 UTC

I wonder if 5574-C19 vs -C09 is also a typo...

On 18.7.2021 21:36, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS292-134/index.html&request_locale=en
>
> 5574-M06 (mono 14-inch)
> 5574-W06 (white 15-inch)
> 5574-C05 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C06 (color 14-inch)
> 5574-C07 (color 16-inch)
> 5574-C19 (color 20-inch)
> 8515-A01 (color 20-inch)
>
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/boo2pdf/SC23-2290-01_AIX_PS2_Installing_and_Customizing_the_Operating_System_Mar_1991.pdf
>
> IBM 5574-M06 (15 inch monochrome display)
> IBM 5574-W06 (15 inch monochrome display)
> IBM 5574-C06 (14 inch color display)
> IBM 5574-C07 (16 inch color display)
> IBM 5574-C09 (20 inch color display)
>
> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5540-T.pdf
> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5550-N_Y.pdf
> https://ardent-tool.com/sandy55/Docs/PS55_Model_5550-W.pdf
>
> 5574-M06 15 inch mono (green? my Japanese ain't good enough)
> 5574-W06 15 inch mono white
> 5574-C05 14 inch color
> 5574-C06 14 inch color
> 5574-C07 16 inch color
> 5574-C19 20 inch color
> 8515-A01 14 inch color
> 8516-002 14 inch color
> 8518-002 14 inch color
> 9515-002 14 inch color
> 9517-002 17 inch color
>
> I'd say the DOS announcement letter is probably wrong and 5574-M06 and
> -W06 are both supposed to be 15 inch.
>

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