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* GitHub Copilot CodingAdam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal
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Subject: GitHub Copilot Coding
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 by: Adam “Adamlivinlif - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 21:11 UTC

I am wondering if anyone used Github Copilot to write Cobol code? If yes, what is your thoughts on it. Thank you!

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Subject: Re: GitHub Copilot Coding
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 by: Randall - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 19:01 UTC

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 5:11:27 p.m. UTC-4, Adam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone used Github Copilot to write Cobol code? If yes, what is your thoughts on it. Thank you!

Disclaimer: I have no direct experience with CoPilot under Cobol.

What specifically are you trying to do with it? I doubt the AI has been trained for NonStop-specifics, specifically COBOL file descriptor clauses, handling server or Pathway code, or Enter TAL. If you are doing something completely portable, it might work, but don't count on it being able to generate compilable code for NonStop without modification.

Also be aware of the following statement from GitHub itself:
"According to research published in August 2021, when Copilot was used to create code in situations relevant to high-risk cybersecurity issues, 40% of the code generated by Copilot was found to be insecure. It is necessary to oversee outcomes as if It was any other code. "

Good Luck.

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Subject: Re: GitHub Copilot Coding
From: abolk...@gmail.com (Adam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal)
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 by: Adam “Adamlivinlif - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:36 UTC

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 12:01:31 PM UTC-7, Randall wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 5:11:27 p.m. UTC-4, Adam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal wrote:
> > I am wondering if anyone used Github Copilot to write Cobol code? If yes, what is your thoughts on it. Thank you!
> Disclaimer: I have no direct experience with CoPilot under Cobol.
>
> What specifically are you trying to do with it? I doubt the AI has been trained for NonStop-specifics, specifically COBOL file descriptor clauses, handling server or Pathway code, or Enter TAL. If you are doing something completely portable, it might work, but don't count on it being able to generate compilable code for NonStop without modification.
>
> Also be aware of the following statement from GitHub itself:
> "According to research published in August 2021, when Copilot was used to create code in situations relevant to high-risk cybersecurity issues, 40% of the code generated by Copilot was found to be insecure. It is necessary to oversee outcomes as if It was any other code. "
>
> Good Luck.

Thank you for your reply, I am testing it's ability to extract business rules, from source code, or write/modify a Cobol program from scratch from business rules. It does not have to be a NonStop Cobol specific. So far no luck with Github CoPilot but still experimenting with Bing Chat which has 4000 characters limitation on what you can type in the chat box, that was a starter, but I will continue messing with and will report back if you're interested.

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 by: Randall - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 18:41 UTC

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 6:36:15 p.m. UTC-4, Adam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 12:01:31 PM UTC-7, Randall wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 5:11:27 p.m. UTC-4, Adam “Adamlivinlife” Kamal wrote:
> > > I am wondering if anyone used Github Copilot to write Cobol code? If yes, what is your thoughts on it. Thank you!
> > Disclaimer: I have no direct experience with CoPilot under Cobol.
> >
> > What specifically are you trying to do with it? I doubt the AI has been trained for NonStop-specifics, specifically COBOL file descriptor clauses, handling server or Pathway code, or Enter TAL. If you are doing something completely portable, it might work, but don't count on it being able to generate compilable code for NonStop without modification.
> >
> > Also be aware of the following statement from GitHub itself:
> > "According to research published in August 2021, when Copilot was used to create code in situations relevant to high-risk cybersecurity issues, 40% of the code generated by Copilot was found to be insecure. It is necessary to oversee outcomes as if It was any other code. "
> >
> > Good Luck.
> Thank you for your reply, I am testing it's ability to extract business rules, from source code, or write/modify a Cobol program from scratch from business rules. It does not have to be a NonStop Cobol specific. So far no luck with Github CoPilot but still experimenting with Bing Chat which has 4000 characters limitation on what you can type in the chat box, that was a starter, but I will continue messing with and will report back if you're interested.
Sure. Let us know how you progress.

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