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+* Re: password no longer works ***More Info***philo
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 by: Bernd Froehlich - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 07:25 UTC

On 8. Dec 2021 at 22:59:14 CET, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> Good news. A few here ...without even seeing the machine...made the
> *assumption* that the drive is encrypted. The first thing I did was
> check that but what the heck... I double checked just now and File Vault
> is set to NOT encrypted.
>
> It will be a few more days before the adapter gets here at which point I
> should be able to reset the operating system password from Linux.

No need for an adapter then.
Just restart in recovery mode and reset the password.

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 by: Peter Köhlmann - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:03 UTC

Am 08.12.21 um 22:48 schrieb philo:
> On 12/8/21 10:50 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
>> On 08/12/2021 14:03, philo wrote:
>>> On 12/8/21 1:08 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
>>>>> In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather
>>>>> than delete.
>>>>> I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
>>>>> As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
>>>>>
>>>>> One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to
>>>>> get by a lost passcode.
>>>>>
>>>>> They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
>>>>
>>>> A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
>>>> work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
>>>>
>>>> So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
>>>> encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
>>>> different encryption keys.
>>>>
>>>> If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you
>>>> don't get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...File
>>> Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
>>
>> Filevault encryption is the default on Macs with T2 chips and is an
>> obvious thing for a company's security policy to have set up anyway.
>> So I think you can reasonably safely assume it is encrypted.
>>
>>> If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will
>>> allow me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Chris
>
>
>
> I just turned the machine back on to double check.
>
> File Vault is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY turned ***off***
>
> I think most people here genuinely have tried to help me
>
> That NO-SPAM idiot however is staying in my killfile.
>

You better do so. If there is a worse idiot than Snit Michael Glasser,
it would be nospam. I have never encountered someone with less technical
knowledge than that brainless dimbulb

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 by: philo - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:22 UTC

I had been fairly inactive on Usenet for a while and made the mistake of talking to nospam on a other group.

As of a few weeks ago, I put him in my killfile on all groups.

He has what I describe as an encyclopedic ignorance.

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 by: philo - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:26 UTC

I guess you have not been following the thread to see why I cannot do that.

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 by: Peter Köhlmann - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 20:44 UTC

Am 07.12.21 um 20:52 schrieb David Brooks:
> On 07/12/2021 18:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-12-07, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
>>>>> Good news.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
>>>>> type.  I found an adaptor.
>>>>
>>>> Which "adapter", specifically?
>>>>
>>>>> The machine has an oddball ssd.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
>>>>>
>>>>> The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
>>>>
>>>> Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware
>>>> passcode.
>>>>
>>>> And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
>>>> access anything on it either.
>>>>
>>>> So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external
>>>> enclosure?
>>>
>>> Already answered
>>
>> You haven't told anyone which adapter you are talking about, as far as I
>> can tell.
>>
>> I do recall that you  mentioned removing the .AppleSetupDone file. But
>> that's not going to allow you to start up the Mac, since firmware
>> protection is enabled.
>
> As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie" but do realise that there
> must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
> Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
> Apple can still identify the hardware.
>
> So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
>

Some type of SMC-Bus chip. You can detect lots of those (mainly temp
sensors, fan-rpm sensors etc) with lm_sensors from linux property.
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
additionally. Basically all mainbaords, apple or otherwise, have those
sensors and also id info, stacked away in chips connected to the
SMC-bus, which is just some type of I2C-bus

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 by: nospam - Thu, 9 Dec 2021 21:23 UTC

In article <sotpri$kkj$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present

yes they do

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 by: Wolffan - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 17:32 UTC

On 2021 Dec 07, David Brooks wrote
(in article<son9mt$5li$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):

> On 07/12/2021 03:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2021-12-07, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> > > On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
> > > (in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
> > >
> > > > - a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
> > >
> > > which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
> >
> > It's nothing but entertaining when resident trolls claim they know who
> > you are and immediately prove themselves totally clueless by getting
> > *basic* details *completely* wrong. To wit: Arlen recently claimed he
> > knew that I tried and failed to get a GED - something that would elicit
> > hysterical laughter from every single person who actually knows me.
> > Welcome to the club. : )
>
> Wolffan has *LIED* - time and time again.

you keep saying that.

you keep running away when asked to provide support.
>
>
> I am simply straight-forward and honest.

nope. You’re scum.
>
>
> Are *YOU* a 'good guy' like me, JR?

h e’s nothing like you, troll-boy.
>
>
> If so, please demonstrate that, like I did, here:-
>
> https://community.dynamics.com/members/bdontj
>
> The LinkedIn link works and the information on LI is 100% correct.

and he attempts to stalk again./

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 by: philo - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:49 UTC

On 12/2/21 8:06 PM, philo wrote:
> A friend brought over her Macbook which she is locked out of. She claims
> she never changed her password and that it happened after she linked it
> to her phone.
> All she can do is log-in as guest.
>
> I found that the machine has a BIOS lock so I cannot perform any of the
> normal reset procedures.
>
> Before I have her take it to the Apple store...anything else I should try?

The adapter arrived today and I can indeed read the mac drive from my
Linux system.

The drive is NOT encrypted, but it is journaled, so Linux will not allow
me to delete or rename .AppleSetupDone

I will have to put the drive in another Mac to turn off journalling > I
will not be able to to so from Linux.

Don't have time to do that now...but am not giving up yet.

NO, I am not looking for advice here, just posting for the sake of
anyone else who may need this info.

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 by: philo - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:33 UTC

On 12/2/21 8:06 PM, philo wrote:
> A friend brought over her Macbook which she is locked out of. She claims
> she never changed her password and that it happened after she linked it
> to her phone.
> All she can do is log-in as guest.
>
> I found that the machine has a BIOS lock so I cannot perform any of the
> normal reset procedures.
>
> Before I have her take it to the Apple store...anything else I should try?

Though I could not delete applesetupdone from Linux, I just connected
the drive to one of my older Macs using an ssd to USB adapter and from
MC, deleted the file.

I was finally able to setup a new administrative account.

Whew, I think this was one of the toughest jobs I've had other than
maybe repairing the PCB on a dead HD.

Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.

That was exactly the challenge I needed .

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 03:45 UTC

On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.

Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )

You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't
change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change
reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more
foolish by lying about it.

> That was exactly the challenge I needed .

"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
must.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: philo - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 03:57 UTC

To JR:

Funniest part was that you were clueless as to how to fix it so you assumed I was too.

LOL

As it turned out, my biggest mistake was to try to do this from Linux when I have three Macs (though older) suitable for the job.

Anyway...the woman is a great artist so I will probably take a painting as pay.

Not all that bad.

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 14:58 UTC

On 11/12/2021 03:57, philo wrote:
> To JR:
>
> Funniest part was that you were clueless as to how to fix it so you
> assumed I was too.
>
> LOL
>
>
> As it turned out, my biggest mistake was to try to do this from Linux
> when I have three Macs (though older) suitable for the job.
>
>
> Anyway...the woman is a great artist so I will probably take a painting
> as pay.
>
> Not all that bad.

Thanks for not being too hard on JR, Philo.

Unlike us, he hasn't been to the UOL

He'll learn, hopefully.

Btw, KUDOS! :-D *Well done*!

--
Kind regards,
David

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:09 UTC

On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
>
> Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
> not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
> been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
> to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
>
> You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't
> change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
> makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change
> reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more
> foolish by lying about it.
>
>> That was exactly the challenge I needed .
>
> "Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
> for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
> mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
> must.

The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy and
you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you
will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself,
you will succumb in every battle.”

Philo, my friend, beat you! :-P

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:14 UTC

On 08/12/2021 18:47, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
>>> David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>
>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>> every bit as described.
>>
>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>
>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>
> Careful with those challenges.

*The challenge stands*!

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:16 UTC

On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
> <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
>>>> David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
>>>>
>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>
>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>> every bit as described.
>>>
>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>
>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>
>> Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
>> now you have a special page.
>
> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
> accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.

Me too!

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24 UTC

On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
>>>>> David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>>> every bit as described.
>>>>
>>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>>
>>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>>
>>> Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
>>> now you have a special page.

>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
>> accusations about him.
>
> Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
> there's no support.

Which ones?

Be specific.

*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:29 UTC

On 09/12/2021 20:44, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Am 07.12.21 um 20:52 schrieb David Brooks:
>> On 07/12/2021 18:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-07, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Good news.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
>>>>>> type.  I found an adaptor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which "adapter", specifically?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The machine has an oddball ssd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware
>>>>> passcode.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
>>>>> access anything on it either.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external
>>>>> enclosure?
>>>>
>>>> Already answered
>>>
>>> You haven't told anyone which adapter you are talking about, as far as I
>>> can tell.
>>>
>>> I do recall that you  mentioned removing the .AppleSetupDone file. But
>>> that's not going to allow you to start up the Mac, since firmware
>>> protection is enabled.
>>
>> As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie" but do realise that there
>> must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
>> Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
>> Apple can still identify the hardware.
>>
>> So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
>>
>
> Some type of SMC-Bus chip. You can detect lots of those (mainly temp
> sensors, fan-rpm sensors etc) with lm_sensors from linux property.
> Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
> additionally. Basically all mainbaords, apple or otherwise, have those
> sensors and also id info, stacked away in chips connected to the
> SMC-bus, which is just some type of I2C-bus

Thank you, Peter

When computers had thermionic valves (tubes) I could find my way around
the hardware, but not so much once the transistor was invented!
THEN came the chip!

--
Kind regards,
David

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David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
> On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
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>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>>>> every bit as described.
>>>>>
>>>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>>>
>>>> Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
>>>> now you have a special page.
>
>>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
>>> accusations about him.
>>
>> Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
>> there's no support.
>
> Which ones?
>
> Be specific.
>
> *I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
>
>

Carroll’s logic is still flawed. Say there are 100 accusations. Say you
admitted to, or there was strong support for, 10 of them.

The page would still be filled with unsupported accusations.

Carroll is good at that: changing the focus from the poor behavior of
someone trolling / acting inappropriately to the fact the target is not
perfect.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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 by: Shadow - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 17:53 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:14:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>On 08/12/2021 18:47, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>
>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>> every bit as described.
>>>
>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>
>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>
>> Careful with those challenges.
>
>*The challenge stands*!

I answered a couple of days ago. With *PROOF*. Write it down
on a piece of paper so when you wake up tomorrow, "slate clean" you'll
remember to read the post before hitting the bottle.
You're welcome.
PS You "forgot" the OT AGAIN. Your personal history is OT in a
Mac group.

------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>

101 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Stalker".
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021

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 by: Shadow - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:03 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:16:16 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
>>
>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
>> accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.

Well, he DID ask the website owner to put a page up for him,
and the website owner complied. He then asked BD to point out any
inaccuracies. BD spotted one #FAKE_NYM he had never used(we only have
his word for that though) and it was removed. All the other #FAKE_NYMS
were "ratified" by BD himself.
EVERY SINGLE ONE has BD's FULL SUPPORT.
I can understand that your known drug abuse might make
interpreting text a tad difficult, but you could try harder.
Better still, get a real job. If you work you wont have time
to make excuses for a proven *LIAR*, *STALKER*and *SLIMER*.

>
>Me too!

You too what? Are they handing out free Royal Navy surplus
dildos?
I'll pass on that.

------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>

101 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Stalker".
[]'s

--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021

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On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
> On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
>>
>> Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
>> not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
>> been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
>> to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
>>
>> You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't
>> change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
>> makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change
>> reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more
>> foolish by lying about it.
>>
>>> That was exactly the challenge I needed .
>>
>> "Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
>> for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
>> mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
>> must.
>
> The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy and
> you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.

There hasn't been any battle here - only little philo bleating like a
proud sheep at having accomplished something relatively trivial.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Shadow - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:07 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:

<re-the documentary below>

>>
>> Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
>> there's no support.
>
>Which ones?

If you can't remember due to your abuse of alcohol, don't ask.
"Investigate".

------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>

101 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Stalker".
[]'s
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Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021

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 by: Kelly Phillips - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:08 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>> <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>> David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>>>> every bit as described.
>>>>>
>>>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>>>
>>>> Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
>>>> now you have a special page.
>
>>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
>>> accusations about him.
>>
>> Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
>> there's no support.
>
>Which ones?
>
>Be specific.
>
>*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.

Why, of course you do, David. Because you say so.

If anyone around here had access to your service records, I'm sure the
story would be very different, but you're safe, for now. You can claim
whatever you want.

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 by: Kelly Phillips - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:12 UTC

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:16:16 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
>> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
>>>>> David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
>>>>> every bit as described.
>>>>
>>>> Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
>>>>
>>>> Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
>>>
>>> Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
>>> now you have a special page.
>>
>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
>> accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.
>
>Me too!

I didn't say anything about "a page with unsupported accusations". I was
referring to your special page at
<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>

You knew that, of course.

If there's another page somewhere that contains unsupported accusations,
I'm not aware of it. Got a link?

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 by: Blau - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:13 UTC

Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote in
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:16:16 +0000, David Brooks
> <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
>
>>On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with
>>> unsupported accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I
>>> would be curious to see it.
>
> Well, he DID ask the website owner to put a page up for him,
> and the website owner complied. He then asked BD to point out any
> inaccuracies. BD spotted one #FAKE_NYM he had never used(we only
> have his word for that though) and it was removed. All the other
> #FAKE_NYMS were "ratified" by BD himself.
> EVERY SINGLE ONE has BD's FULL SUPPORT.
> I can understand that your known drug abuse might make
> interpreting text a tad difficult, but you could try harder.
> Better still, get a real job. If you work you wont have time
> to make excuses for a proven *LIAR*, *STALKER*and *SLIMER*.
>
>>
>>Me too!
>
> You too what? Are they handing out free Royal Navy surplus
> dildos?
> I'll pass on that.

Snit already has more dildos and rubber toys than he can use.
So does his wife.
And so does a certain local reverend and school board member because
for some odd reason snit cannot remember his own address when
ordering his sex toys online.
I'll bet the town of Prescott is a buzz with gossip regarding the
Glasser family.
Hey snit, are you having fun yet?

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