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* Steam on Win7 scarecrowJJ
+* Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrowPaul
|`* Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrowJJ
| `* Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrowSpalls Hurgenson
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|  `- Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrowSailfish
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Subject: Steam on Win7 scarecrow
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 by: JJ - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 04:58 UTC

All bark but no bite.

https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png

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Subject: Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrow
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 by: Paul - Thu, 4 Jan 2024 12:01 UTC

On 1/3/2024 11:58 PM, JJ wrote:
> All bark but no bite.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png
>

"The main culprit, according to Valve, is the built-in Chromium-based
browser that Steam actually uses to render the Steam store and other
bits of the UI. Chrome dropped support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 right
around the same time that Microsoft ended support for the operating systems
earlier this year. Versions that still work in Windows 7 and 8 will be
susceptible to security bugs and, increasingly, rendering bugs and other
functional problems as time goes on."

Manifests as future browser issues then.

Paul

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Subject: Re: Steam on Win7 scarecrow
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 by: JJ - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 06:55 UTC

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:01:48 -0500, Paul wrote:
> On 1/3/2024 11:58 PM, JJ wrote:
>> All bark but no bite.
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png
>>
>
> "The main culprit, according to Valve, is the built-in Chromium-based
> browser that Steam actually uses to render the Steam store and other
> bits of the UI. Chrome dropped support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 right
> around the same time that Microsoft ended support for the operating systems
> earlier this year. Versions that still work in Windows 7 and 8 will be
> susceptible to security bugs and, increasingly, rendering bugs and other
> functional problems as time goes on."
>
> Manifests as future browser issues then.
>
> Paul

That's not the worst part.

The worst part is that it says "will stop running".
Instead of "will stop being supported".

IOTW, deceptive.

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From: spallshu...@gmail.com (Spalls Hurgenson)
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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:29 UTC

On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:55:25 +0700, JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:01:48 -0500, Paul wrote:
>> On 1/3/2024 11:58 PM, JJ wrote:
>>> All bark but no bite.
>>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png
>>>
>>
>> "The main culprit, according to Valve, is the built-in Chromium-based
>> browser that Steam actually uses to render the Steam store and other
>> bits of the UI. Chrome dropped support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 right
>> around the same time that Microsoft ended support for the operating systems
>> earlier this year. Versions that still work in Windows 7 and 8 will be
>> susceptible to security bugs and, increasingly, rendering bugs and other
>> functional problems as time goes on."
>>
>> Manifests as future browser issues then.
>>
>> Paul
>
>That's not the worst part.
>
>The worst part is that it says "will stop running".
>Instead of "will stop being supported".
>
>IOTW, deceptive.

If earlier versions are anything to go by, it will actually stop
running at some point.

Valve dropped support for XP many years ago. When you attempt to run
Steam on XP, it will first insist on connecting to the mothership,
then attempt to download the latest version, moan about how the latest
version won't run on XP, and then self-terminate.

Possibly, if you keep the software in 'offline' mode it may still
work, although I suspect that there is a timer that will force you to
go online before it will run.

TL;DR: even if Steam still runs on Win7 today, I wouldn't expect that
to last very much longer.

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 by: JJ - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16 UTC

On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 10:29:46 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> TL;DR: even if Steam still runs on Win7 today, I wouldn't expect that
> to last very much longer.

Since the countdown is already zero days ago, the current client version
will still run unless it's updated with a newer version. But Steam's
announcement states that it won't get any update anymore for Windows 7.

If the current client version already have an time expiry and OS version
rejection kill switches, it can be cracked.

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 by: Sailfish - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:31 UTC

JJ graced us with on 1/3/2024 8:58 PM:
> All bark but no bite.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png

Yeah, I feel for it and larded up my W7 desktop with all of my Steam
games I care about (a lot) in the off chance that I could still play
them disconnected from the net. Of course Steam still works; thus far;
however, I've add a couple more hours to my cloning backups.

le sigh

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 by: Sailfish - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:36 UTC

Spalls Hurgenson graced us with on 1/5/2024 7:29 AM:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:55:25 +0700, JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 07:01:48 -0500, Paul wrote:
>>> On 1/3/2024 11:58 PM, JJ wrote:
>>>> All bark but no bite.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png
>>>>
>>> "The main culprit, according to Valve, is the built-in Chromium-based
>>> browser that Steam actually uses to render the Steam store and other
>>> bits of the UI. Chrome dropped support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 right
>>> around the same time that Microsoft ended support for the operating systems
>>> earlier this year. Versions that still work in Windows 7 and 8 will be
>>> susceptible to security bugs and, increasingly, rendering bugs and other
>>> functional problems as time goes on."
>>>
>>> Manifests as future browser issues then.
>>>
>>> Paul
>> That's not the worst part.
>>
>> The worst part is that it says "will stop running".
>> Instead of "will stop being supported".
>>
>> IOTW, deceptive.
>
> If earlier versions are anything to go by, it will actually stop
> running at some point.
>
> Valve dropped support for XP many years ago. When you attempt to run
> Steam on XP, it will first insist on connecting to the mothership,
> then attempt to download the latest version, moan about how the latest
> version won't run on XP, and then self-terminate.
>
> Possibly, if you keep the software in 'offline' mode it may still
> work, although I suspect that there is a timer that will force you to
> go online before it will run.
>
> TL;DR: even if Steam still runs on Win7 today, I wouldn't expect that
> to last very much longer.
>
As I mentioned above, I have all of my desired games downloaded for use
in offline mode. I'd be upset if Steam timebombed installed games and,
while IANAL, doing so might even set them up for a class action suit.

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 by: Sailfish - Mon, 29 Apr 2024 06:13 UTC

JJ graced us with on 1/3/2024 8:58 PM:
> All bark but no bite.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/bWyuCwc.png

Just a quick follow-up fyi. Steam just released a few free new expansion
packs for Fallout 4 and they downloaded, installed and run fine on my
Win7 rig.

Cheers

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