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`* Re: PaintPaul Oates
 `* Re: PaintChris Newman
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 by: Chris Newman - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:04 UTC

Hi,

At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new version
of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find it. I'm probably
missing the bleedin' obvious as usual.
Any pointers?

--
Chris Newman

Re: Paint

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 by: Paul Oates - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:34 UTC

In message <59843757d6cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new version
> of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find it. I'm probably
> missing the bleedin' obvious as usual.
> Any pointers?

Chris
Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page and extract
what you want. It catches me too each time I have to do it, it forget how
I did it last time.

Here is the link to the press release.
https://www.riscosopen.org/news/articles/2020/10/24/risc-os-5-28-now-available

--
Paul Oates
oatespaul@btinternet.com

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 by: Chris Newman - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 23:12 UTC

In article <380d3a8459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
<oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59843757d6cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new
> > version of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find it.
> > I'm probably missing the bleedin' obvious as usual. Any pointers?

> Chris Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page and
> extract what you want. It catches me too each time I have to do it, it
> forget how I did it last time.

I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently.
The Apps directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash.

--
Chris Newman

Re: Paint

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Sun, 31 Oct 2021 23:21 UTC

On 31 Oct, Chris Newman wrote in message
<59844301dfcvjazz@waitrose.com>:

> I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently. The Apps
> directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash.

Isn't Paint one of the ROM apps? If so, you could need to update your ROM to
a recent build of 5.29 -- although bear in mind that the odd number means
that these are nightly development builds and so not QA'd in any way.

I suppose it would help to know what was actually said about Paint's
availability at the show.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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In article <mpro.r1v7ix07brdc70313.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 31 Oct, Chris Newman wrote in message
> <59844301dfcvjazz@waitrose.com>:

> > I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently. The Apps
> > directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash.

> Isn't Paint one of the ROM apps? If so, you could need to update your
> ROM to a recent build of 5.29 -- although bear in mind that the odd
> number means that these are nightly development builds and so not QA'd
> in any way.

> I suppose it would help to know what was actually said about Paint's
> availability at the show.

Unfortunately it still is in ROM on the ROD side.

I'm running a RPCEmu 0.9.3 with ROD 5.29 and the version I have is Paint
2.42 (07 July 21).

Another older RPCEmu 0.9.3 install running ROD 5.28 has Paint version 2.37
(10 Aug 20).

Dave

Re: Paint

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 by: Sprow - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 08:35 UTC

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 11:12:22 PM UTC, Chris Newman wrote:
> In article <380d3a8...@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
> <oate...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > In message <59843757...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> > <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > > At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new
> > > version of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find it.
> > > I'm probably missing the bleedin' obvious as usual. Any pointers?
> > Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page and
> > extract what you want.
> I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently.
> The Apps directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash..

As an exhibitor at the show I need to wait for the videos from the talks to be available to find out what they were about and any juicy tidbits, but I'd hazard a guess that Paint was talking about its translucency support and exporting as PNG (as well as JPEG and Sprite).

If so that was covered in
https://www.riscosopen.org/news/articles/2021/08/13/ping-another-one-fully-cooked

and to answer the question Chris has raised see "How to get hold of the updated apps" specifically. Hint: no messing with ROMs needed, both Paint and ChangeFSI have disc based incarnations,
Sprow.

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 by: Paul Oates - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 08:44 UTC

In message <59844301dfcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <380d3a8459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
> <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> In message <59843757d6cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
>> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>> At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new
>>> version of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find it.
>>> I'm probably missing the bleedin' obvious as usual. Any pointers?

>> Chris Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page and
>> extract what you want. It catches me too each time I have to do it, it
>> forget how I did it last time.

> I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently.
> The Apps directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash.

Sorry I wasn't precise enough. !Paint is in !Boot.RO350Hook.Apps. (The
latest version being in the Nightly Beta HardDisc4).

regards

--
Paul Oates
oatespaul@btinternet.com

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 by: Tim Hill - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:30 UTC

In article <12c6d113-bbe3-4adb-8d3c-4353fb64ed8bn@googlegroups.com>,
Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> wrote:
> translucency support

Binary or graduated?

--

Tim Hill
Webmaster, https://timil.com

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 by: Chris Newman - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:35 UTC

In article <c26e778459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
<oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59844301dfcvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > In article <380d3a8459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
> > <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> In message <59843757d6cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> >> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> >>> Hi,

> >>> At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new
> >>> version of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find
> >>> it. I'm probably missing the bleedin' obvious as usual. Any
> >>> pointers?

> >> Chris Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page
> >> and extract what you want. It catches me too each time I have to do
> >> it, it forget how I did it last time.

> > I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently. The
> > Apps directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc & Squash.

> Sorry I wasn't precise enough. !Paint is in !Boot.RO350Hook.Apps. (The
> latest version being in the Nightly Beta HardDisc4).

Thanks Paul,

I am now the proud owner of Paint 2.45 (16-Oct-21).

This now allows saving as a JPEG without my having to use DPlingScan.
It is supposed to also export as PNG but this is greyed out. From the
article in Archive 4.25, it looks a s though I have to update Change FSI
as well.
Now where is that....? Off I go to explore.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Chris Newman - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:54 UTC

On 01 Nov, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <c26e778459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
> <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > In message <59844301dfcvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> > <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > > In article <380d3a8459.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>, Paul Oates
> > > <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >> In message <59843757d6cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> > >> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > >>> Hi,

> > >>> At the London Show yesterday Steve said I could download the new
> > >>> version of Paint from the ROOL site but I'm blowed if I can find
> > >>> it. I'm probably missing the bleedin' obvious as usual. Any
> > >>> pointers?

> > >> Chris Download HardDisk4 under Miscellaneous on the downloads page
> > >> and extract what you want. It catches me too each time I have to
> > >> do it, it forget how I did it last time.

> > > I did that and paint isn't in it. I have searched diligently. The
> > > Apps directory only contains CloseUp, Maestro, Omni, SciCalc &
> > > Squash.

> > Sorry I wasn't precise enough. !Paint is in !Boot.RO350Hook.Apps.
> > (The latest version being in the Nightly Beta HardDisc4).

> Thanks Paul,

> I am now the proud owner of Paint 2.45 (16-Oct-21).

> This now allows saving as a JPEG without my having to use DPlingScan.
> It is supposed to also export as PNG but this is greyed out. From the
> article in Archive 4.25, it looks a s though I have to update Change
> FSI as well. Now where is that....? Off I go to explore.

I've updated Change FSI but PNG saving still greyed out. As the Apps
folder is read only, I can't update the copy in there. I have to load it
manually from elswhere.

--
Chris Newman

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In article <598493c697cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> I've updated Change FSI but PNG saving still greyed out. As the Apps
> folder is read only, I can't update the copy in there. I have to load it
> manually from elswhere.

I think you need the module CompressPNG. Get it from here...
https://www.riscosopen.org/zipfiles/platform/common/HardDisc4.zip

Then find the module in !Boot.Resources.!System.350.Modules

Copy to same on your !System.

Bob.

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 by: Martin - Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:28 UTC

In article <598493c697cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > This now allows saving as a JPEG without my having to use
> > DPlingScan. It is supposed to also export as PNG but this is
> > greyed out. From the article in Archive 4.25, it looks a s though
> > I have to update Change FSI as well. Now where is that....? Off
> > I go to explore.

> I've updated Change FSI but PNG saving still greyed out. As the
> Apps folder is read only, I can't update the copy in there. I have
> to load it manually from elswhere.

Have you got the CompressPNG module in !System.350.Modules ?

Martin

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In article <598493c697cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> As the Apps
> folder is read only, I can't update the copy in there.

ChangeFSI is actually in $.Utilities. The 'copy' in Apps is simply a
link to the real location.

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