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* Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?Robin Goodfellow
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   |   |  `* Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?Jeff Liebermann
   |   |   +* Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?nospam
   |   |   |`- Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?Robin Goodfellow
   |   |   `* Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?wolfgang kern
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Re: Is there an iOS app similar to the Android WiFi Analyzer app?

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 04:16 UTC

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> asked
> Because Apple doesn't yet sell an Apple self driving car:
> <https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/apple-car/>

Apple has never designed even a single SOC without huge flaws.
https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+unfixable+flaws+soc

Can you imagine the built in unfixable flaws in an Apple car!

> When the car is eventually released, I suspect that mere mortal
> drivers will not be allowed to use the ODBII port without an Apple Car
> Care contract.

The entire sales pitch will be based on fear (that's what drives Apple
owners, fear, and nothing but fear).

If you don't purchase expensive cheap Apple tires, you'll die.
If you don't get the contract to fix our bugs, you'll die.
If you purchase a non-Apple battery or windshield, you'll die.

> Or, it might be reserved for use only by Authorized
> Service Centers. Ever get the feeling you are allowed to have less
> and less control over your devices?

Apple will throttle the engine, year after year, lowering top speed.
At some point the engine will be unusable so that you'll buy a new car.

> You don't need to know. We know better. We are in control.

The car will only be able to make left turns.
You can get anywhere with left turns so you're holding the steering wheel
wrong if you try to make right turns. Right turns cost extra.

> You are
> about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of games and
> five year product lives, but of mindless behavior and sky high prices.

Apple will spend more on marketing the car than on building it.
Just like now when Apple's R&D is the lowest in all of high tech.
https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+R%26D+lowest

> A journey into the wondrous land of Apple.
> Next stop, the iPhone Zone.

Apple will cripple the car so that you'll have to pay to get back the basic
functionality that is on all other cars but not on any of the Apple cars.

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 by: John - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 04:19 UTC

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:45:03 +1200, Your Name wrote:
> And yet another cross-posting brainless anti-Apple moron troll meets
> the killfile.

Jeff Liebermann knows more about radio setup than almost anyone here.
Certainly he knows more about electronics than you ever will know.
You're the moron, YourName, for not recognizing people who know their shit.

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 by: Your Name - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 05:35 UTC

On 2021-08-29 04:19:08 +0000, John said:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:45:03 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>> And yet another cross-posting brainless anti-Apple moron troll meets
>> the killfile.
>
> Jeff Liebermann knows more about radio setup than almost anyone here.
> Certainly he knows more about electronics than you ever will know.
> You're the moron, YourName, for not recognizing people who know their shit.

I don't care what they do and don't know ... cross-posting crap to the
iphone newsgroup is simply not wanted.

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 by: sms - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 06:42 UTC

On 8/28/2021 9:19 PM, John wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:45:03 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>> And yet another cross-posting brainless anti-Apple moron troll meets
>> the killfile.
>
> Jeff Liebermann knows more about radio setup than almost anyone here.
> Certainly he knows more about electronics than you ever will know.
> You're the moron, YourName, for not recognizing people who know their shit.
Wow, kill-filing Jeff Liebermann, LOL.

Jeff is probably the smartest person posting here (or second smartest
anyway), and I'm pretty certain that he's set up far more wireless
networks for businesses than anyone else posting in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone.

I'm sure that Jeff will be devastated to find that one of our favorite
trolls has insulted and kill-filed him--NOT.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:42 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2021 10:33 AM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> >> availability does not mean they're actually used by very many people.
> >
> > In your desperation to make excuses for why iOS is crippled you make an
> > argument that goes against all your other arguments as to why you love iOS.
>
> nospam is wrong of course?.
>
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer>
>
> Wi-Fi analyzer has over 10 million installs. It may be an app thouse
> users only open once or twice, but when they need it, it's very useful.

Yep, that's exactly the one I used a couple of times. On several
devices, so I'm afraid I'm responsible for a few of those (over) 10
million installs!

I'll try to be more "ordinary" in future, but don't count on it.

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 by: sms - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:57 UTC

On 8/29/2021 4:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> Wi-Fi analyzer has over 10 million installs. It may be an app thouse
>> users only open once or twice, but when they need it, it's very useful.
>
> Yep, that's exactly the one I used a couple of times. On several
> devices, so I'm afraid I'm responsible for a few of those (over) 10
> million installs!
>
> I'll try to be more "ordinary" in future, but don't count on it.

LOL. There are a lot of apps that are used only occasionally, and a lot
of apps that are used on a daily basis. I use Torque Pro only right
before a smog check (to ensure that the sensors have completed their
readiness tests), or if the "Check Engine" light comes on; I could go
more than a year between launches of that app. WiFi analyzer falls into
that category as well. An extremely useful, but only occasionally
needed, application. It's odd why it's not possible to have such an app
on iOS anymore.

But I'm sure that nospam will appreciate your attempt to become an
ordinary, regular, typical, normal, person instead of some freak that
uses apps with only 10 million, versus 100 million installs.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 15:14 UTC

In article <sgg3p7$1n5$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> LOL. There are a lot of apps that are used only occasionally, and a lot
> of apps that are used on a daily basis. I use Torque Pro only right
> before a smog check (to ensure that the sensors have completed their
> readiness tests), or if the "Check Engine" light comes on; I could go
> more than a year between launches of that app.

there are shitloads of obd apps for ios, some of which run in the
background without the need to launch an app every single time,
something not possible on android. i've written obd apps and am *very*
familiar with what can and cannot be done.

> WiFi analyzer falls into
> that category as well. An extremely useful, but only occasionally
> needed, application. It's odd why it's not possible to have such an app
> on iOS anymore.

what's odd is that you keep lying.

such an app is possible, although the apis have changed over the years,
as have many other apis.

have you started learning how to write ios apps yet? maybe you can do
better than 'arlen' did with his failed attempt at writing android
apps.

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 by: Jim Whitby - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 17:54 UTC

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:14:11 -0400, nospam wrote:

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> there are shitloads of obd apps for ios, some of which run in the
> background without the need to launch an app every single time,
> something not possible on android. i've written obd apps and am *very*
> familiar with what can and cannot be done.

Really? Where do you get your information/education?
Wherever you got your information/education it needs updating to reality.

I have several apps on my Android phone that run in the background just
fine. No intervention required by me.

I used to have an obd app that ran fine in the background, I no longer
use it because the vehicle I use now has its own app that replaces it
( in the background ).

<snip>

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 by: nospam - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 19:19 UTC

In article <nnd$1128d40e$1001e888@6b9b8d478ace45d1>, Jim Whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:

> > there are shitloads of obd apps for ios, some of which run in the
> > background without the need to launch an app every single time,
> > something not possible on android. i've written obd apps and am *very*
> > familiar with what can and cannot be done.
>
> Really? Where do you get your information/education?

from writing mobile apps that do exactly what i described.

> Wherever you got your information/education it needs updating to reality.

it's up to date.

> I have several apps on my Android phone that run in the background just
> fine. No intervention required by me.

you might be thinking about ordinary apps running in the background.

that's *not* what i'm talking about.

what i'm specifically referring to are apps that automatically connect
and communicate with bluetooth devices entirely in the background, in
particular, without the user needing to separately launch an app at
all. this isn't specific to obd either.

the moment the bluetooth device comes within range of the user's
iphone, ios will automatically auto-launch the app directly into the
background if needed with no user interaction whatsoever, at which
point the app starts doing whatever the app was designed to do.

this happens regardless of when the app was last launched, even if the
phone has been rebooted.

android can't do that.

some of the apps might need to be used in the foreground, such as an
obd app displaying fault codes, however the app is already linked and
communicating long before it's launched.

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 by: Jim Whitby - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 19:49 UTC

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 15:19:57 -0400, nospam wrote:
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> what i'm specifically referring to are apps that automatically connect
> and communicate with bluetooth devices entirely in the background, in
> particular, without the user needing to separately launch an app at all.
> this isn't specific to obd either.
>
> the moment the bluetooth device comes within range of the user's iphone,
> ios will automatically auto-launch the app directly into the background
> if needed with no user interaction whatsoever, at which point the app
> starts doing whatever the app was designed to do.
>
> this happens regardless of when the app was last launched, even if the
> phone has been rebooted.
>
> android can't do that.

I almost feel sorry for you. I'm not sure if its just plain ignorance or
"Don't confuse me with facts, my minds made up."

How do you think every phone (Android, Windows, ios, linux, etc) is
connected to a vehicle? Magic? USB? WiFi? or ???

Give me a mailing address, I'll send you some info about electronics.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 20:55 UTC

On 2021-08-28, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>>
>> if you want to use a ridiculous car analogy, what you're suggesting
>> is someone downloading a bunch of apps to try to diagnose the car
>> despite not knowing what they're doing, versus taking it to a
>> mechanic and have it properly fixed.
>
> Keeping with the car analogy, it's like OBD testers exist on all
> platforms except on the iOS platform because Apple, for some reason,
> would hate OBDII.

More pure bullshit from Arlen (aka Robin Goodfellow) and his troll
buddies. I've used the Carista OBD2 adapter for *years* with several
different makes and model cars, using the OBD Fusion app on a bunch of
different iPhone models. The FACT is not only do iPhone-compatible
OBDII adapters exist, they also happen to work very well. Apple clearly
does not "hate OBDII", as Arlen claims.

<https://caristaapp.com/adapter>
<https://www.obdsoftware.net/software/obdfusion>

Being caught in this laughably obvious LIE, Arlen will now either refuse
to acknowledge this FACT -or- he will attempt to move the goal post by
attacking the Carista adapter or the OBD Fusion app.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 20:58 UTC

On 2021-08-28, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2021 10:30 AM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
>>> if you want to use a ridiculous car analogy, what you're suggesting is
>>> someone downloading a bunch of apps to try to diagnose the car despite
>>> not knowing what they're doing, versus taking it to a mechanic and have
>>> it properly fixed.
>>
>> Keeping with the car analogy, it's like OBD testers exist on all platforms
>> except on the iOS platform because Apple, for some reason, would hate OBDII.
>
> OBD-II is interesting because the low-cost OBD-II dongles are
> Bluetooth-only and use the SPP (Serial Port Profile) which iOS does not
> support.

Bullshit. Is $19.99 considered "expensive" in your world? Because here
on planet Earth, that's how much I paid for my Carista OBDII adapter
which uses Bluetooth LE, and it works fine with iPhones - and has for
years.

You dipshit Apple trolls are full of shit, as usual. Get a life.

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 by: Alan Browne - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:01 UTC

On 2021-08-28 13:30, Robin Goodfellow wrote:

> Keeping with the car analogy, it's like OBD testers exist on all platforms
> except on the iOS platform because Apple, for some reason, would hate OBDII.

My BlueDriver OBD served me well on my previous car and on the current
one via iPhone, so again you're out to lunch.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:01 UTC

On 2021-08-29, John <john@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:45:03 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> And yet another cross-posting brainless anti-Apple moron troll meets
>> the killfile.
>
> Jeff Liebermann knows more about radio setup than almost anyone here.
> Certainly he knows more about electronics than you ever will know.

Yet Jeff apparently doesn't know that Bluetooth OBDII adapters (like the
Carista OBD2 adapter I have) work just fine with iPhones, and have for
many years, because he chimed right in to post a lame joke in agreement
with incorrect claims that they don't exist from another troll. Yes,
clearly he "knows more than just about anyone here"...\s

> You're the moron, YourName, for not recognizing people who know their
> shit.

Projection.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:05 UTC

On 2021-08-29, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/2021 5:46 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:26:03 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OBD-II is interesting because the low-cost OBD-II dongles are
>>> Bluetooth-only and use the SPP (Serial Port Profile) which iOS does not
>>> support.
>>
>> Worse. Most of the OBD-II wireless dongles use cloned (counterfeit)
>> ELM327 chips, which may or may not support various features. There
>> are apps that will test for which features are available. For
>> example:
>> I've ordered OBD-II readers on eBay that were advertised to be 2.3
>> compatible, that turned out to be an older version.
>
> I had some cheap ones that had difficulty connecting sometimes, but
> then they worked okay after that. The one I use now, the "Carista" was
> $30

Then you paid too much. I got mine on Amazon for $19.99.

> but always connects properly. I use it with Torque Pro, but Carista
> has their own app that has manufacturer specific codes for some
> brands.

Apparently you never bothered to try it with an iPhone, which you and
your butt buddy Arlen (Robin) claim won't work.

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On 2021-08-29, Jim Whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 15:19:57 -0400, nospam wrote:
><snip>
>
>> what i'm specifically referring to are apps that automatically connect
>> and communicate with bluetooth devices entirely in the background, in
>> particular, without the user needing to separately launch an app at all.
>> this isn't specific to obd either.
>>
>> the moment the bluetooth device comes within range of the user's iphone,
>> ios will automatically auto-launch the app directly into the background
>> if needed with no user interaction whatsoever, at which point the app
>> starts doing whatever the app was designed to do.
>>
>> this happens regardless of when the app was last launched, even if the
>> phone has been rebooted.
>>
>> android can't do that.
>
> How do you think every phone (Android, Windows, ios, linux, etc) is
> connected to a vehicle? Magic? USB? WiFi? or ???

I mean, he literally said "Bluetooth" multiple times above. Are you
blind or something?

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 by: Lewis - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:35 UTC

In message <nnd$1128d40e$1001e888@6b9b8d478ace45d1> Jim Whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:14:11 -0400, nospam wrote:

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>> there are shitloads of obd apps for ios, some of which run in the
>> background without the need to launch an app every single time,
>> something not possible on android. i've written obd apps and am *very*
>> familiar with what can and cannot be done.

> I have several apps on my Android phone that run in the background just
> fine. No intervention required by me.

Perhaps read ALL THE WORDS.

> I used to have an obd app that ran fine in the background,

Without launching them first? I doubt it. But sure, go ahead and name
them.

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 by: Lewis - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:39 UTC

In message <nnd$2ac7d9e0$352d29de@010391d1f6c084ba> Jim Whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 15:19:57 -0400, nospam wrote:
> <snip>

>> what i'm specifically referring to are apps that automatically connect
>> and communicate with bluetooth devices entirely in the background, in
>> particular, without the user needing to separately launch an app at all.
>> this isn't specific to obd either.
>>
>> the moment the bluetooth device comes within range of the user's iphone,
>> ios will automatically auto-launch the app directly into the background
>> if needed with no user interaction whatsoever, at which point the app
>> starts doing whatever the app was designed to do.
>>
>> this happens regardless of when the app was last launched, even if the
>> phone has been rebooted.
>>
>> android can't do that.

> I almost feel sorry for you. I'm not sure if its just plain ignorance or
> "Don't confuse me with facts, my minds made up."

You clearly have not fucking idea what you are talking about, and I
suspect you have never written an app for any platform, so most of the
words up there glid past without making the slightest impression on that
sorry excuse for a brain you were cursed with at birth.

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 by: Lewis - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:45 UTC

In message <sge2ke$mob$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> OBD-II is interesting because the low-cost OBD-II dongles are
> Bluetooth-only and use the SPP (Serial Port Profile) which iOS does not
> support.

Don't you ever get tired of spewing complete and utter horseshit?

> You can buy a Wi-Fi OBD-II dongle, or a BLE OBD-II dongle, that will
> connect to an iPhone or iPad, but they are an order of magnitude more
> expensive.

No they are not. $20 is what I paid for one I bought as a gift for a
friend, who is still using it with her car and iPhone. It might have
been as much as $25. Feel free to link an OBDII monitor that costs less
than US$2.50, or admit you are a lying sack of shit.

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 by: Lewis - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:52 UTC

In message <sgf1rs$h8v$1@gioia.aioe.org> John <john@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:45:03 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>> And yet another cross-posting brainless anti-Apple moron troll meets
>> the killfile.

> Jeff Liebermann knows more about radio setup than almost anyone here.
> Certainly he knows more about electronics than you ever will know.
> You're the moron, YourName, for not recognizing people who know their
> shit.

Well, he knows nothing about OBD2 and iOS if he's claiming it doesn't
work better on iOS than on Android, that's for sure.

--
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -
Groucho Marx

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 by: Robin Goodfellow - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:57 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
> such an app is possible

And yet, *they don't exist on the Apple app store* - a fact you can't deny.

Why is it _only_ iOS that is crippled (but not any other operating system)?
I don't know why.

Either it's that iOS owners only play games with iOS, as nospam and Jolly
Roger and Lewis constantly allude to when they say "who needs debuggers?"

Or it's that Apple expressly doesn't allow the use of the functions
necessary to make these tools work (which work on all other operating
systems)...

Or...???

Why?

Which is it?
a. iOS is a toy OS (as nospam constantly claims)
b. Apple won't allow these apps on iOS
c. Or ???

*Why is it _only_ iOS that is crippled* (but no other operating system)?

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 by: nospam - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:02 UTC

In article <ip2ansF67saU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2021-08-28, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> > OBD-II is interesting because the low-cost OBD-II dongles are
> > Bluetooth-only and use the SPP (Serial Port Profile) which iOS does not
> > support.
>
> Bullshit. Is $19.99 considered "expensive" in your world? Because here
> on planet Earth, that's how much I paid for my Carista OBDII adapter
> which uses Bluetooth LE, and it works fine with iPhones - and has for
> years.

in another post, sms claims he paid $30 for his adapter, which is not
'low-cost'.

i paid around $10 for a noname adapter which works without issue using
numerous obd apps.

> You dipshit Apple trolls are full of shit, as usual. Get a life.

trolling *is* their life, although some of the claims are quite funny.

one of the better ones is that room lights need to be turned on just to
get face id to work. that's truly fucked up.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:02 UTC

In article <ip2c2cF67saU5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> what i'm specifically referring to are apps that automatically connect
> >> and communicate with bluetooth devices entirely in the background, in
> >> particular, without the user needing to separately launch an app at all.
> >> this isn't specific to obd either.
> >>
> >> the moment the bluetooth device comes within range of the user's iphone,
> >> ios will automatically auto-launch the app directly into the background
> >> if needed with no user interaction whatsoever, at which point the app
> >> starts doing whatever the app was designed to do.
> >>
> >> this happens regardless of when the app was last launched, even if the
> >> phone has been rebooted.
> >>
> >> android can't do that.
> >
> > How do you think every phone (Android, Windows, ios, linux, etc) is
> > connected to a vehicle? Magic? USB? WiFi? or ???
>
> I mean, he literally said "Bluetooth" multiple times above. Are you
> blind or something?

"any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
- arthur c. clarke.

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 by: Jim Whitby - Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:15 UTC

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 21:21:16 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
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>>> android can't do that.
>>
>> How do you think every phone (Android, Windows, ios, linux, etc) is
>> connected to a vehicle? Magic? USB? WiFi? or ???
>
> I mean, he literally said "Bluetooth" multiple times above. Are you
> blind or something?

It appears I can see better than you. I was asking how if not bluetooth,
how? Then he claimed apple was the only one that could do it.

Or maybe you missed the "android can't do that".

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In article <nnd$008998e8$727a29bd@40e367d97e3319e7>, Jim Whitby
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> >>
> >> How do you think every phone (Android, Windows, ios, linux, etc) is
> >> connected to a vehicle? Magic? USB? WiFi? or ???
> >
> > I mean, he literally said "Bluetooth" multiple times above. Are you
> > blind or something?
>
> It appears I can see better than you. I was asking how if not bluetooth,
> how? Then he claimed apple was the only one that could do it.
>
> Or maybe you missed the "android can't do that".

or maybe you failed to understand everything i said.

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